hate it!

Has anyone ever asked him specifically about the att/def-swap AND actually gotten a reply?
If so, what's the explanation? Is this a change in the new KA, or has it always been like that?

(Oh, and it would be awesome if anyone could find 2 .nl players (old KA) who could spare 40k bullets and some BG money to do the same tests Arcanine did on .com. I'd totally blow you for that.)

[23:20:17] <!KCode> the KA is not that far from reality now
[23:20:19] <!KCode> it will be balanced
[23:20:21] <!KCode> but it's not bugged

worth to say again, still confirmed as no bug

ask revive they will give you in #help ^^

Bug, like explained ten times before.

Whatever is result for KA , i just wanna hear explanation for death of Fugitive...

FUGITIVE = Bruglione 30%
Rankpoints: #8
Bustouts: #40
Car nicks: #45
Narcotics: #15
Races: #58
Capo money: #1


Bullets: #17
Money: #1
Crimes: #74
Booze: #17
Honor points: #24
Account age: #150

VENDETTA = Local Chief

Rankpoints: #1056
Bustouts: #394
Car nicks: #1087
Narcotics: #1266
Races: #373
Capo money: #246


Bullets: #482
Money: #1269
Crimes: #862
Booze: #1284
Honor points: #510
Account age: #2933

So...based on 1v1 ? I would like to get explanation of this kill .

Your only argument so far has been 'they might have changed some stuff' blabla. My arguments and proof were solid to say the least.

Anyway, will do the same. Good luck.

I'll follow Sbanks and also just ignore you from now on, you won't listen anyway :P

Yea sure mate:') They didnt intentionally change anything, especially not the order of bodyguard killing.

Anyway, believe what you want. It makes the game easier for the handfull of people who do know whats going on

I would say they changed it to random guards in order to make it more exciting, or there's a bug that causes defensive guards to die first. doesn't mean the stats were flipped


[16:08] <!KCode> KA is based on straight 1on1 factors
[16:08] <!KCode> at end there is a total
[16:08] <!KCode> and from there it works with the ATT DEF
[16:08] <!KCode> the tweaking part
[16:08] <!KCode> is made on the factors
[16:08] <!KCode> which we will check

clear statement they are tweaking the base factors, not the bg's ^^

Can you also explain me why the 2 bodyguards I lost in backfire were Joe and Ray, who were trained defensively, and not my Vic and Ike..like it always has been?

And why the defender didnt lose his Vic and Ike but also 2 defensive bodyguards?

Bug.

Well, that's how it could work, but you don't know that for sure unless you have access to the KA code. :)
Also, even if it's not clear if he was talking about the att/def-mixup, KCode said the following yesterday:
... there were also some rumors about brando confirming the issue on Facebook.

But I guess there's not much point in discussing this any further without an official statement. Really sad that there is none so far.

Someone who has more def will lose their bg's later, so they will have more time to do dmg to the attacker. With 60k shots even defensive bodyguards will die, so it probably isn't the case then. Still not convinced :)

Meh this is so wrong. Ofc you should be able to have two viable setups when not attacking. Either full defence(very likely to eat bullets and survive) or a certain degree of attack built into the setup, giving you a chance to kill in backfire but risk to die in process.

I have no idea what you're trying to say.
I meant that people TESTED this by shooting 20k on brugs who had their backfire set to "The same amount the attacker fires", so they got 20k back.
In that test, the defenders took more damage and dealt more bf damage when they had their BGs def trained.

In English :
- Defense = you defend YOURSELF (if anyone shoot you)
- Attack = you attack AGAINST SOMEONE (when you want to kill someone)

So why I need full attack if I want to have strong backfire? I thought I need strong defense for that.

uhm random bf ?

when u got 200k bullets it most of the times shoot 60k back :")

People have tested this with 20k shots (and 20k bf) brug on brug. With def setup, the defender took more damage and dealth more bf damage (compared to att setup).

I think the switched attack/defence bug doesn't exist, was full attack and I killed a cdtc who shot me in homecity in backfire. Never would have happened if it was switched :P