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08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Author: Impact
Last updated: 4591d 8h 54m 54s ago by Rix
Comments: 86
Views: 30,704
Votes: 0 (0 average)
Version: 3.2
Involved families: Akdagoglu, As, Aspava, Blacksea, Fusion, Getica, Ihtilal, Leviticus, Pa, Samagono, Va, Yigidos, Caliente, Staletti
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Seems Caliente is being shot by a plethora of fams, including Leviticus, AsFu alliance, Samagono and Blacksea+

So far the attackers have fared well, receiving minimal backfire. The only question is if they can do enough before if and when a counter strikes.

By the end of the evening, it was clear that the attacking force was too strong for Caliente and Staletti to handle. With no aid coming to their side, they were both down by the next morning. The attacking side suffered far less causalities then in wars past, and if this is the end of it, one of the fastest wars this version.

For war info /q Impact or Smul
statistics
War started on: 19:27:03 08-10-2011 War ended on: 02:11:02 09-10-2011
Bullet difference: -11,467,520 War duration: 6h 43m
Money difference: -$1,309,958,594 Players died: 80




deaths
Dead Families:
[Caliente] Family down on 22:38 08-10
[Staletti] Family down on 21:39 08-10
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Blacksea | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 34
Caliente | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 5 | brug: 31 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 501
Fusion | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 21
Ihtilal | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Leviticus | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Samagono | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Staletti | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 5 | cd: 3 | gf: 0 | points: 151
Yigidos | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Total | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 7 | brug: 45 | cd: 5 | gf: 1 | points: 798
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Anonymous (19:13:18 - 09-10)
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well cut xzone's another hand :') divide and conquer..
Noxx (18:12:39 - 09-10)
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Anonymous at 12:06:09 on 09/10:
Noxx at 11:14:52 on 09/10:
Think ppl should complain less and look to themselves instead of bashing at others. If you have problems with them, fight them ingame instead of here.

RIP to all.
hows legend?
Legends is doing fine, fun with friends and trying to do our best! ;)
lol (16:37:04 - 09-10)
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masimo at 10:46:46 on 09/10:

This must be the worst borring shitty version of barafranca in ages! With this ka people can do allote go into sh stay offline short of things you own by that way thats wrong !! ++++ 120 families our so wtf is that ...+ famgs who start as : " no we don't shoot we are friends fam " blah blah blah

translate please.
gode Turkey (16:29:15 - 09-10)
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Vito at 14:47:12 on 09/10:

Well, there is a difference between:

1) Listening what players want in the game.
2) What is the best for the game and the players.

The game developers should find a way that the game stays excited for everybody so there is no need for complaining. We are not here to tlak about complains like:

- I hate this version it sucks
- Men, waste of time playing here
- I prefer a bottle to shoot then not

No, you just need to take a look @ the Statistic page and you will see some major problems, the game is not in controll by its own admins - also look at the online players at the moment, it is horrible.

Maybe I should ask the right question:

* How would Omerta look like if the game was close near succes?

If you want to answer this question you need to look at different topics of the game itself like: Ranking progress - Building a family - Organizing wars - Money - donation codes -

All these things need to take in consideration if you want to make this game a succes, the game is not organized by its own develoeprs, how can you expect that the players organize this game and even want to come back or keep playing?

I'm working on a project to set up andI iwll get in touch with Brambe about this.

its a good thing that you develop something rather then complaning _o_

nice chat thx :w

Vito Italy (14:47:12 - 09-10)
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gode at 14:33:34 on 09/10:
Vito at 11:01:33 on 09/10:
masimo at 10:46:46 on 09/10:

This must be the worst borring shitty version of barafranca in ages! With this ka people can do allote go into sh stay offline short of things you own by that way thats wrong !! ++++ 120 families our so wtf is that ...+ famgs who start as : " no we don't shoot we are friends fam " blah blah blah

Social Media changed this game - More players came into this game because of this which is a good thing. Yet. the admins didn't oranize or plan a way how to control the game the way it should be.

Don't forget - these days the admins care more about the revenue than about what players watn or need. This is going on for more than 4 versions now.

Every business person or Game developer would say the same to the Omerta developers or crew:

1) Once the players start complaining their is a NEED for change (This is either good or bad)

This is the most value argument any company should be blessed about because it says the game needs a change in a good direction.

So who to listen to?

* The players of Omerta.

But what is happening now?

* for more than 4 versions the game is dying and the players are complaining for more than 4 versions - every version you will hear complains, thats normal in any business. Yet, these complains are things that are critical for keeping returning as satisfied players.

What are the options for the Omerta Crew?

* 2 options, either listen to the players and invest in this game - or keep going the same way and hoping for more revenue.

Vito

i played 2.1 then years later i'm playing 3.1 and 3.2.

ppl were complaning in 2.1, years later still complaning 3.1 and 3.2

listen to players? which players? democracy is not an easy thing. if u do what %60 say then %40 will be unhappy and complain.

ppl wanted KS back, it's back in turkish version, but no bottle. everyone says: we didnt want this, we wanted bottle. but i'm %100 sure if they brought bottle back, same amount of ppl will start to complain about it.


Well, there is a difference between:

1) Listening what players want in the game.
2) What is the best for the game and the players.

The game developers should find a way that the game stays excited for everybody so there is no need for complaining. We are not here to tlak about complains like:

- I hate this version it sucks
- Men, waste of time playing here
- I prefer a bottle to shoot then not

No, you just need to take a look @ the Statistic page and you will see some major problems, the game is not in controll by its own admins - also look at the online players at the moment, it is horrible.

Maybe I should ask the right question:

* How would Omerta look like if the game was close near succes?

If you want to answer this question you need to look at different topics of the game itself like: Ranking progress - Building a family - Organizing wars - Money - donation codes -

All these things need to take in consideration if you want to make this game a succes, the game is not organized by its own develoeprs, how can you expect that the players organize this game and even want to come back or keep playing?

I'm working on a project to set up andI iwll get in touch with Brambe about this.
gode Turkey (14:33:34 - 09-10)
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Vito at 11:01:33 on 09/10:
masimo at 10:46:46 on 09/10:

This must be the worst borring shitty version of barafranca in ages! With this ka people can do allote go into sh stay offline short of things you own by that way thats wrong !! ++++ 120 families our so wtf is that ...+ famgs who start as : " no we don't shoot we are friends fam " blah blah blah

Social Media changed this game - More players came into this game because of this which is a good thing. Yet. the admins didn't oranize or plan a way how to control the game the way it should be.

Don't forget - these days the admins care more about the revenue than about what players watn or need. This is going on for more than 4 versions now.

Every business person or Game developer would say the same to the Omerta developers or crew:

1) Once the players start complaining their is a NEED for change (This is either good or bad)

This is the most value argument any company should be blessed about because it says the game needs a change in a good direction.

So who to listen to?

* The players of Omerta.

But what is happening now?

* for more than 4 versions the game is dying and the players are complaining for more than 4 versions - every version you will hear complains, thats normal in any business. Yet, these complains are things that are critical for keeping returning as satisfied players.

What are the options for the Omerta Crew?

* 2 options, either listen to the players and invest in this game - or keep going the same way and hoping for more revenue.

Vito

i played 2.1 then years later i'm playing 3.1 and 3.2.

ppl were complaning in 2.1, years later still complaning 3.1 and 3.2

listen to players? which players? democracy is not an easy thing. if u do what %60 say then %40 will be unhappy and complain.

ppl wanted KS back, it's back in turkish version, but no bottle. everyone says: we didnt want this, we wanted bottle. but i'm %100 sure if they brought bottle back, same amount of ppl will start to complain about it.

Anonymous (13:42:36 - 09-10)
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Captain at 12:22:04 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 12:05:18 on 09/10:
borden at 10:15:57 on 09/10:
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Anonymous at 07:45:58 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.

carneglia has the longest bloodlist around. and they cant do shit. pathetic fam ever

we hurt someone it seems
2 bad u were pwn'ed
2 bad u were abused in your childhood

the noob turkish captain ROFLMAO. everybody knows he is just a noob
Anonymous (12:50:16 - 09-10)
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Captain at 12:22:04 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 12:05:18 on 09/10:
borden at 10:15:57 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 08:01:53 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 07:45:58 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.

carneglia has the longest bloodlist around. and they cant do shit. pathetic fam ever

we hurt someone it seems
2 bad u were pwn'ed
2 bad u were abused in your childhood

u left kerbe for some noob fam. RIP
Captain (12:22:04 - 09-10)
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Anonymous at 12:05:18 on 09/10:
borden at 10:15:57 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 08:01:53 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 07:45:58 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.

carneglia has the longest bloodlist around. and they cant do shit. pathetic fam ever

we hurt someone it seems
2 bad u were pwn'ed
2 bad u were abused in your childhood
Anonymous (12:06:09 - 09-10)
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Noxx at 11:14:52 on 09/10:
Think ppl should complain less and look to themselves instead of bashing at others. If you have problems with them, fight them ingame instead of here.

RIP to all.
hows legend?
Anonymous (12:05:18 - 09-10)
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borden at 10:15:57 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 08:01:53 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 07:45:58 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.

carneglia has the longest bloodlist around. and they cant do shit. pathetic fam ever

we hurt someone it seems
2 bad u were pwn'ed
Noxx (11:14:52 - 09-10)
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Think ppl should complain less and look to themselves instead of bashing at others. If you have problems with them, fight them ingame instead of here.

RIP to all.
Vito Italy (11:01:33 - 09-10)
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masimo at 10:46:46 on 09/10:

This must be the worst borring shitty version of barafranca in ages! With this ka people can do allote go into sh stay offline short of things you own by that way thats wrong !! ++++ 120 families our so wtf is that ...+ famgs who start as : " no we don't shoot we are friends fam " blah blah blah

Social Media changed this game - More players came into this game because of this which is a good thing. Yet. the admins didn't oranize or plan a way how to control the game the way it should be.

Don't forget - these days the admins care more about the revenue than about what players watn or need. This is going on for more than 4 versions now.

Every business person or Game developer would say the same to the Omerta developers or crew:

1) Once the players start complaining their is a NEED for change (This is either good or bad)

This is the most value argument any company should be blessed about because it says the game needs a change in a good direction.

So who to listen to?

* The players of Omerta.

But what is happening now?

* for more than 4 versions the game is dying and the players are complaining for more than 4 versions - every version you will hear complains, thats normal in any business. Yet, these complains are things that are critical for keeping returning as satisfied players.

What are the options for the Omerta Crew?

* 2 options, either listen to the players and invest in this game - or keep going the same way and hoping for more revenue.

Vito
masimo Belgium (10:46:46 - 09-10)
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This must be the worst borring shitty version of barafranca in ages! With this ka people can do allote go into sh stay offline short of things you own by that way thats wrong !! ++++ 120 families our so wtf is that ...+ famgs who start as : " no we don't shoot we are friends fam " blah blah blah
borden Guadeloupe (10:15:57 - 09-10)
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Anonymous at 08:01:53 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 07:45:58 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.

carneglia has the longest bloodlist around. and they cant do shit. pathetic fam ever

we hurt someone it seems
Anonymous (08:12:13 - 09-10)
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After waiting for 6 months is not right to kill.can be successful tactic is applied, but I can not earn respect for cowards in this way
Anonymous (08:01:53 - 09-10)
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Anonymous at 07:45:58 on 09/10:
Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.

carneglia has the longest bloodlist around. and they cant do shit. pathetic fam ever
Anonymous (07:45:58 - 09-10)
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Anonymous at 22:58:27 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:52:14 on 08/10:
Anonymous at 22:47:55 on 08/10:



08-10 Caliente Getting Shot!
Comments: 30 - Views: 1,253

07-10 Passione under attack
Comments: 5 - Views: 467

05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
Comments: 36 - Views: 2,027

03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
Comments: 178 - Views: 8,234


22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
Comments: 460 - Views: 18,389



17-09 Vaff+Nuevitas+Casappa shootout
Comments: 195 - Views: 10,108

i see 6 wars article at this page and asfu involved 3 of them.. it means they didnt see pussy or hugers as smbdy says


are you retard or somethin ? asfu = 9 families + their bloods. it mean their asses are safe , if they dont shot who will shot ? explain me...

9 families?? :D funny check how many members or shooters they have.. r u idiot or smthng?

Can you imagine if families like carneg or presi had played the waiting game as long as asfu? ironically, version would be over by now. its easy to play the waiting game and then get involved once you have a blatant advantage. you will not be able to validate asfu's playing style this version. They picked on weak fams for the majority of it and fought in big wars only with blatant advantage. no matter what their actions at this point, they cannot assert themselves as an 'aggressive' family. They played well, their style was just very passive, but they survived. But do not pretend like they were aggressive or brave. because they were not. They were capable of so much yet did so little.
Anonymous (03:18:19 - 09-10)
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`Donalo`Sixx at 02:17:48 on 09/10:
Sorry but these "oh its 10 v 1" "oh youv got no balls" comments are stupid. Theres nothing to gain from being honourable or shooting in a 1 v 1 situation. What would the game be if all it was was mashing equal ammounts of brugs against each other in grinder wars. The game is about gaining advantages where you can and destroying you're enemies. If its easy for fams to find a large ammount of fams to kill you then sorry to inform you of this but you're not very good at this game. And no.... it doesnt mean you're very good at the game that everyone wants to kill you because that simply isnt true. Usually the fams that everyone wants to kill are the hardest to kill :P Take for example vincitori, differing opinions aside, there are plenty of fams that would like them to be gone at any one moment, but if you ever tried to organise a war against them I can assure you the word easy is not the adjective id use to describe it. The game is a constant interpretation of your enviroment.

In caliente's case. Its not about their moment of death by 10 fams or whatever razy ratio you think this is :p Its about everything before that moment that led to their demise. Fams die along time before fams actually shoot them. Every choice caliente made this version led to this moment.

Not sure why I felt the need to write this semi essay lol But its very tiring to see the same regurgitated crap comments about fams being pussy and people being cowards or whatever. It is what it is and if you didnt realise what the game is about, in the case of alot of players who make these comments who have been playing for a long time, then you need to retire for good :p

the same applies to the SH issue. when u are defending, SH is a form of tactic.
but when u r attacking, SH bcomes pussy style.
do u agree or not?
pls say u agree :(
`Donalo`Sixx United Kingdom (02:17:48 - 09-10)
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Sorry but these "oh its 10 v 1" "oh youv got no balls" comments are stupid. Theres nothing to gain from being honourable or shooting in a 1 v 1 situation. What would the game be if all it was was mashing equal ammounts of brugs against each other in grinder wars. The game is about gaining advantages where you can and destroying you're enemies. If its easy for fams to find a large ammount of fams to kill you then sorry to inform you of this but you're not very good at this game. And no.... it doesnt mean you're very good at the game that everyone wants to kill you because that simply isnt true. Usually the fams that everyone wants to kill are the hardest to kill :P Take for example vincitori, differing opinions aside, there are plenty of fams that would like them to be gone at any one moment, but if you ever tried to organise a war against them I can assure you the word easy is not the adjective id use to describe it. The game is a constant interpretation of your enviroment.

In caliente's case. Its not about their moment of death by 10 fams or whatever razy ratio you think this is :p Its about everything before that moment that led to their demise. Fams die along time before fams actually shoot them. Every choice caliente made this version led to this moment.

Not sure why I felt the need to write this semi essay lol But its very tiring to see the same regurgitated crap comments about fams being pussy and people being cowards or whatever. It is what it is and if you didnt realise what the game is about, in the case of alot of players who make these comments who have been playing for a long time, then you need to retire for good :p