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Deston Palestinian Territory, Occupied (02:24:43 - 11-11)
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Rix at 01:44:58 on 11/11:
Anonymous at 23:29:54 on 10/11:
Everytime you massquote Rix kills a kitten.
Actually I'm slaying dragons at the moment, so the kittens are save... for now.
Leave Charizard alone! :'(
Rix Netherlands (01:44:58 - 11-11)
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Anonymous at 23:29:54 on 10/11:
Everytime you massquote Rix kills a kitten.
Actually I'm slaying dragons at the moment, so the kittens are save... for now.
asswipe (00:10:51 - 11-11)
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Anonymous at 23:29:54 on 10/11:
Everytime you massquote Rix kills a kitten.


lolo
Anonymous (23:29:54 - 10-11)
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Everytime you massquote Rix kills a kitten.
Anonymous (22:58:51 - 10-11)
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ReBorN at 22:42:21 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 21:13:22 on 10/11:
ReBorN at 19:00:51 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
lol at 23:06:41 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 18:09:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:53 on 08/11:
Anonymous at 09:03:11 on 08/11:
Merovingians will win this version :)

Based on?

No one will attack them

and they have the highest accounts so soon no one can't even kill them

wtg mero

and they didnt do shit this version nor in any previous.

wtg huggers

There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

You know, there is alot I want to say to that post but Im to stunned to actually say it. Ill leave my comments to this: People like you are the reason the games sucks these days. Grow some balls and play the game it was meant to be played, aggressive.

And who exactly told you this is an aggresive game? Shooting is one of the options. Another option is mindgame, turning your enemies against each other, finally if you are small and not too popular - sit silent and train new people. What the hell is wrong in dedicating a version to just surviving and training ppl for your family?
One must be very stubborn to think shooting a lot is the only way to play the game.

Are you pulling a joke on me? Is there some sort of hidden camera around here? Cause you must be kidding. Either that or out of your mind.

You just reinforced why I believe people like you ruin this game. Just "surviving and training people"? Training them to do what exactly? It only takes 30 seconds to "train" them how to OC. It takes even less to "train" them how to heist.

So, by your theory, this small family that hugged all version long has now had MONTHS to "train" their people will now be one of the biggest, strongest families in the game next version and will shoo then because they had all version to "train"?

There is only one problem ... you "trained" them to HUG! So your only perpetuating the system by making small families of huggers!

How about we try this one of for size, if your family is too small to actually contribute to the politics and wars of the game then maybe your family is a failure, and your top by extension, and you should dissolve it and move to a more competitive family where you may actually have a chance of contributing to the actual gameplay instead of destroying it because you had a life long desire to be SottoCapo of a family but never made it past the rank of Soldier.

Who are you fooling when you say a family with 1-2 Brugs has a snowballs chance in hell of playing mindgames with top families in the game and "turning your enemies against each other". No one cares about the small shitty family that does nothing and eventually grows up to be a top 10 family after 8 months of doing nothing,

Im so disgusted by the idea that never shooting in this game is a viable option for victory. And it appalls me that someone who sounds somewhat educated would actually admit that publicly, anonymous poster or not. The only reason a family decides not to shoot is because they are scared, plain and simple. Not because they found a better alternative to winning. Someone who runs around scared all version can never and will never be considered a "winner" in my book or in any oldskool players book.

You may fool n00bs and you may have successfully transformed this game into an acceptable dishonorable game but you will never get me to agree that this the new way to "win" this game. Ive had the honor of playing alongside many amazing players that helped shape this game into what it is today and it disgusts me that people like you have almost successfully destroyed that. The only people who agree that this is an acceptable way to "win" this game are those who constantly got owned by those very same amazing players,

damn, i hate it when ppl compare ReBorN to god, i mean he' s cool and all but he is not ReBorN
ReBorN United States (22:42:21 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 21:13:22 on 10/11:
ReBorN at 19:00:51 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
lol at 23:06:41 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 18:09:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:53 on 08/11:
Anonymous at 09:03:11 on 08/11:
Merovingians will win this version :)

Based on?

No one will attack them

and they have the highest accounts so soon no one can't even kill them

wtg mero

and they didnt do shit this version nor in any previous.

wtg huggers

There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

You know, there is alot I want to say to that post but Im to stunned to actually say it. Ill leave my comments to this: People like you are the reason the games sucks these days. Grow some balls and play the game it was meant to be played, aggressive.

And who exactly told you this is an aggresive game? Shooting is one of the options. Another option is mindgame, turning your enemies against each other, finally if you are small and not too popular - sit silent and train new people. What the hell is wrong in dedicating a version to just surviving and training ppl for your family?
One must be very stubborn to think shooting a lot is the only way to play the game.

Are you pulling a joke on me? Is there some sort of hidden camera around here? Cause you must be kidding. Either that or out of your mind.

You just reinforced why I believe people like you ruin this game. Just "surviving and training people"? Training them to do what exactly? It only takes 30 seconds to "train" them how to OC. It takes even less to "train" them how to heist.

So, by your theory, this small family that hugged all version long has now had MONTHS to "train" their people will now be one of the biggest, strongest families in the game next version and will shoo then because they had all version to "train"?

There is only one problem ... you "trained" them to HUG! So your only perpetuating the system by making small families of huggers!

How about we try this one of for size, if your family is too small to actually contribute to the politics and wars of the game then maybe your family is a failure, and your top by extension, and you should dissolve it and move to a more competitive family where you may actually have a chance of contributing to the actual gameplay instead of destroying it because you had a life long desire to be SottoCapo of a family but never made it past the rank of Soldier.

Who are you fooling when you say a family with 1-2 Brugs has a snowballs chance in hell of playing mindgames with top families in the game and "turning your enemies against each other". No one cares about the small shitty family that does nothing and eventually grows up to be a top 10 family after 8 months of doing nothing,

Im so disgusted by the idea that never shooting in this game is a viable option for victory. And it appalls me that someone who sounds somewhat educated would actually admit that publicly, anonymous poster or not. The only reason a family decides not to shoot is because they are scared, plain and simple. Not because they found a better alternative to winning. Someone who runs around scared all version can never and will never be considered a "winner" in my book or in any oldskool players book.

You may fool n00bs and you may have successfully transformed this game into an acceptable dishonorable game but you will never get me to agree that this the new way to "win" this game. Ive had the honor of playing alongside many amazing players that helped shape this game into what it is today and it disgusts me that people like you have almost successfully destroyed that. The only people who agree that this is an acceptable way to "win" this game are those who constantly got owned by those very same amazing players,
Smokey Netherlands (22:31:00 - 10-11)
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ReBorN at 19:00:51 on 10/11:
You know, there is alot I want to say to that post but Im to stunned to actually say it. Ill leave my comments to this: People like you are the reason the games sucks these days. Grow some balls and play the game it was meant to be played, aggressive.

ReborN my friend, you nailed it. o/
Anonymous (22:07:14 - 10-11)
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.nl reset just got announced for next week.
So its a good guess the .com newspost will show up within the next 48hours.
Anonymous (21:39:50 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 21:13:22 on 10/11:
ReBorN at 19:00:51 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
lol at 23:06:41 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 18:09:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:53 on 08/11:
Anonymous at 09:03:11 on 08/11:
Merovingians will win this version :)

Based on?

No one will attack them

and they have the highest accounts so soon no one can't even kill them

wtg mero

and they didnt do shit this version nor in any previous.

wtg huggers

There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

You know, there is alot I want to say to that post but Im to stunned to actually say it. Ill leave my comments to this: People like you are the reason the games sucks these days. Grow some balls and play the game it was meant to be played, aggressive.

And who exactly told you this is an aggresive game? Shooting is one of the options. Another option is mindgame, turning your enemies against each other, finally if you are small and not too popular - sit silent and train new people. What the hell is wrong in dedicating a version to just surviving and training ppl for your family?
One must be very stubborn to think shooting a lot is the only way to play the game.

It takes no talent to sit alone, not bother anyone, and not have objects. The only mind game you have pulled off is gaming your own mind into thinking what you did is strategically impressive. Small fans can have huge influences, but only if they actively engage in the politics of the game and shoot to improve their stature. You can't call it success if you rise to the top by just 'staying alive'... that just means you had less of a life/incentive to make the game enjoyable than other people did
Anonymous (21:13:22 - 10-11)
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ReBorN at 19:00:51 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
lol at 23:06:41 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 18:09:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:53 on 08/11:
Anonymous at 09:03:11 on 08/11:
Merovingians will win this version :)

Based on?

No one will attack them

and they have the highest accounts so soon no one can't even kill them

wtg mero

and they didnt do shit this version nor in any previous.

wtg huggers

There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

You know, there is alot I want to say to that post but Im to stunned to actually say it. Ill leave my comments to this: People like you are the reason the games sucks these days. Grow some balls and play the game it was meant to be played, aggressive.

And who exactly told you this is an aggresive game? Shooting is one of the options. Another option is mindgame, turning your enemies against each other, finally if you are small and not too popular - sit silent and train new people. What the hell is wrong in dedicating a version to just surviving and training ppl for your family?
One must be very stubborn to think shooting a lot is the only way to play the game.
octavell0 (20:12:47 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 19:50:07 on 10/11:
Anadolu - worst fam page in whole version...and that's a lot...or else...those guys are lost in wrong version....
I dont know about beinv the worst, but its pretty bad. Come on, there is nothing wrong with a bit nationalistic pride, but this is ridiculous. Can a family be any more exclusionary?
Anonymous (19:50:07 - 10-11)
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Anadolu - worst fam page in whole version...and that's a lot...or else...those guys are lost in wrong version....
ReBorN United States (19:00:51 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
lol at 23:06:41 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 18:09:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:53 on 08/11:
Anonymous at 09:03:11 on 08/11:
Merovingians will win this version :)

Based on?

No one will attack them

and they have the highest accounts so soon no one can't even kill them

wtg mero

and they didnt do shit this version nor in any previous.

wtg huggers

There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

You know, there is alot I want to say to that post but Im to stunned to actually say it. Ill leave my comments to this: People like you are the reason the games sucks these days. Grow some balls and play the game it was meant to be played, aggressive.
kenyaAAA (16:23:45 - 10-11)
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it is kinda sad how we have seen so many former successful family names from previous versions that are now being used as pathetic alliance fams with only a member or 2 in them. Isnt that an embarassment to the name? Even if you dont like the fam, its still sad to see. Asfu really should have just used new names for these. I cant even remember all they have used so far. Provenzano was used i think. memento, sindikat are still being used. Outfit just now goes down.The list goes on. Its a shame to see......
Anonymous (15:43:41 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 15:32:24 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 10:00:20 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

This could be one of the most retarded posts I've ever read.
IT'S A SHOOTING GAME!
I'm gonna go pray for your list of bloods now ok bye.

Its not a shooting game. call of duty etc is. Omerta is an Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) with a mob them in which shooting is an option.
how will you get rid of enemies? asking them as your. bloods? if you wont shoot, you can't win. you only will bw remembered as a hugger. those that shot (and died) will be remembered as a players...and only players can win (rest plays wrong game - try sims instead)

Mero will be another one of those fams, that die in the way end of a version, because an alliance got bored and wanted to shoot someone. Dont matter your fam strength/accounts.. Mero will get "gangbanged" eventually, So calm your horses over there, and wait till you get raped Mero member :')
Anonymous (15:32:24 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 10:00:20 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

This could be one of the most retarded posts I've ever read.
IT'S A SHOOTING GAME!
I'm gonna go pray for your list of bloods now ok bye.

Its not a shooting game. call of duty etc is. Omerta is an Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) with a mob them in which shooting is an option.
how will you get rid of enemies? asking them as your. bloods? if you wont shoot, you can't win. you only will bw remembered as a hugger. those that shot (and died) will be remembered as a players...and only players can win (rest plays wrong game - try sims instead)
Anonymous (10:52:23 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 10:00:20 on 10/11:
Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

This could be one of the most retarded posts I've ever read.
IT'S A SHOOTING GAME!
I'm gonna go pray for your list of bloods now ok bye.

Its not a shooting game. call of duty etc is. Omerta is an Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG) with a mob them in which shooting is an option.
Anonymous (10:22:18 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 00:08:24 on 10/11:
While we wait for the reset...

http://sale88.minitroopers.com ^^


reset, keep dream on!!
lol
Anonymous (10:00:20 - 10-11)
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Anonymous at 08:48:01 on 10/11:
There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.

This could be one of the most retarded posts I've ever read.
IT'S A SHOOTING GAME!
I'm gonna go pray for your list of bloods now ok bye.
Anonymous (08:48:01 - 10-11)
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lol at 23:06:41 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 18:09:12 on 09/11:
Anonymous at 10:52:53 on 08/11:
Anonymous at 09:03:11 on 08/11:
Merovingians will win this version :)

Based on?

No one will attack them

and they have the highest accounts so soon no one can't even kill them

wtg mero

and they didnt do shit this version nor in any previous.

wtg huggers

There are plenty who did shoot and do other shit. But where are they now?
Winning side is not the one that kills most, but the one that survives most.

You talk about shooting like there was something heroic in it. I do not see anything heroic in shooting and then dying because of "we did not expect bloods of their bloods could jump in", or, even more stupid - "we knew this will happen because we shot bla bla".
Mero was a fam with 1-2 brugs for half of the version - they simply did not have more. You are saying they had to shoot back then? What would be if they shot then? That's right, they would be dead and forgotten, and wouldn't be able to educate any members (which they obviously did).

Every family has different starting conditions, and ones can shoot earlier, others much later. Others cannot shoot at all. It is simple calculation your shooters vs. targets. If you don't see yourself surviving the war, you look for another ways to survive.
Another thing, you shoot usually when it is in your interest - when something is a possible treat to you or your bloods. If there is no real need for you and your bloods, why should you look for it and do someone's else job?
Some say shooting is heroic, and being smart to balance, grow strength and not spend it on someone's else war is not heroic.
But the hell, what heroism can you talk when it is a computer game? Game where survivors do count. And when you have most survivors? Exactly.