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Anonymous (00:45:07 - 27-06)
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TranFagDoucheIo what are they called again?
Didn’t this round just start? Nobody even really logs in just famless tube viewers how are there still so many ranks on one side? Lol
Anonymous (23:48:19 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 21:46:52 on 26/06:
Anonymous at 12:55:40 on 26/06:
Anonymous at 04:58:03 on 26/06:
Zelda Council at 18:05:04 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

+6

+7

+8
+9

Plating or no plating, can’t change player mentaity.
Which is be lazy coward and join big side and call everyone your friend :p
Many mental midgets forget the basics :)
Anonymous (23:45:28 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 22:09:12 on 26/06:
plating or not, its the players that need to be changed to create longer versions.
in the old days it was much harder to get the ammount of cash & bullets that you can get now. its so damn easy too have 200k - 300k bullets when you promote to brug these days
there is simply too much cash & bullets too soon in this game.

If you want longer versions then change that, go back too 400 bullets an hour, so it takes more time too get 300k++ on each chief / brug account
lower the percentage that family's earn from their members so it takes much more time to fund a war and load their 5-15 topaccounts
in start versions you see many highranked dupes die who are clearly empty in bullets and just lackeying to make cash to fund topaccounts with extra cash, from thoose empty accounts admins should check where the cash is sended too and punish or akill thoose accounts
creating big pussypacts is a thing that need to be changed by players, not the admins
As long players still create thoose pacts we will have too deal with 1 war versions

just my 2 cents
Corniole

What family were you in?
Anonymous (22:09:12 - 26-06)
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plating or not, its the players that need to be changed to create longer versions.
in the old days it was much harder to get the ammount of cash & bullets that you can get now. its so damn easy too have 200k - 300k bullets when you promote to brug these days
there is simply too much cash & bullets too soon in this game.

If you want longer versions then change that, go back too 400 bullets an hour, so it takes more time too get 300k++ on each chief / brug account
lower the percentage that family's earn from their members so it takes much more time to fund a war and load their 5-15 topaccounts
in start versions you see many highranked dupes die who are clearly empty in bullets and just lackeying to make cash to fund topaccounts with extra cash, from thoose empty accounts admins should check where the cash is sended too and punish or akill thoose accounts
creating big pussypacts is a thing that need to be changed by players, not the admins
As long players still create thoose pacts we will have too deal with 1 war versions

just my 2 cents
Corniole
Anonymous (21:46:52 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 12:55:40 on 26/06:
Anonymous at 04:58:03 on 26/06:
Zelda Council at 18:05:04 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

+6

+7

+8
+9
Real Seth (18:02:27 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 22:41:59 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 22:09:55 on 25/06:
Outstanding culture on the Mudbone story McGee.
Didn’t know that freaking hilarious, and believe it one-hunded

I didn’t type that here, I only said half that True Omertawood Story on the chat earlier. G, what a fucking coincidence! So if you miss me here I’m not playing just keeping in touch with 10-15 purpley-doo’s because I dont have social media and haunting plebs, you can’t even find heist in detroit quickly and I’m just skull fucked shock and awe’d it’s the same people selling DC in chat, and you know they ain’t making money for other versions cause they dead AF to lol xD

-Def not Ocarina
-Maybe mcgee maybe not idk

Definately Mcgee aka mickgee
Anonymous (13:08:06 - 26-06)
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@Kcode can you please inform us of the changes to come for the new version?
Thanks in advance!
Anonymous (12:55:40 - 26-06)
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Anonymous at 04:58:03 on 26/06:
Zelda Council at 18:05:04 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

+6

+7

+8
Anonymous (04:58:03 - 26-06)
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Zelda Council at 18:05:04 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

+6

+7
Anonymous (22:41:59 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 22:09:55 on 25/06:
Outstanding culture on the Mudbone story McGee.
Didn’t know that freaking hilarious, and believe it one-hunded

I didn’t type that here, I only said half that True Omertawood Story on the chat earlier. G, what a fucking coincidence! So if you miss me here I’m not playing just keeping in touch with 10-15 purpley-doo’s because I dont have social media and haunting plebs, you can’t even find heist in detroit quickly and I’m just skull fucked shock and awe’d it’s the same people selling DC in chat, and you know they ain’t making money for other versions cause they dead AF to lol xD

-Def not Ocarina
-Maybe mcgee maybe not idk
Anonymous (22:09:55 - 25-06)
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Outstanding culture on the Mudbone story McGee.
Didn’t know that freaking hilarious, and believe it one-hunded
Anonymous (22:02:46 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 21:57:43 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 21:50:51 on 25/06:
Someone in chat brought up the time Mudbone (ing Aspen) got played by Malishka. This was when irc was really big and the logs were everywhere on this one. People busted a gut laughing at this: Mudbone had no choice but to be a cheater that kept getting akilled ever since with whatever respect he had he lost. The logs showed him crying and spamming with Caps Locks when some girl who used people as virtual dildos halfway across the ocean didnt want to text marry him. So he made a bunch of dupes and scripted on Kitten to shoot her but got akilled right before he did. He went insane, crying for a lawyer, even Brando changed his name to Mudboner after he killed him. This is the admins favorite player, some dumb ass who spends a lot of money and comes back after akilled time and time again, and they dont even have to offer cash prizes on their game to drain their wallets :’) The Mudbones kept the admins pockets filled its almost sad and you pity the Mudbones. Not a surprise to only see retards like that selling DCs 24/7 in chat inside gay one side fam, a lot of shit got filtered out but some large fail boulders remain, the biggest of em all lol

lol

+1
-def not ocarina
Anonymous (21:57:43 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 21:50:51 on 25/06:
Someone in chat brought up the time Mudbone (ing Aspen) got played by Malishka. This was when irc was really big and the logs were everywhere on this one. People busted a gut laughing at this: Mudbone had no choice but to be a cheater that kept getting akilled ever since with whatever respect he had he lost. The logs showed him crying and spamming with Caps Locks when some girl who used people as virtual dildos halfway across the ocean didnt want to text marry him. So he made a bunch of dupes and scripted on Kitten to shoot her but got akilled right before he did. He went insane, crying for a lawyer, even Brando changed his name to Mudboner after he killed him. This is the admins favorite player, some dumb ass who spends a lot of money and comes back after akilled time and time again, and they dont even have to offer cash prizes on their game to drain their wallets :’) The Mudbones kept the admins pockets filled its almost sad and you pity the Mudbones. Not a surprise to only see retards like that selling DCs 24/7 in chat inside gay one side fam, a lot of shit got filtered out but some large fail boulders remain, the biggest of em all lol

lol
Anonymous (21:50:51 - 25-06)
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Someone in chat brought up the time Mudbone (ing Aspen) got played by Malishka. This was when irc was really big and the logs were everywhere on this one. People busted a gut laughing at this: Mudbone had no choice but to be a cheater that kept getting akilled ever since with whatever respect he had he lost. The logs showed him crying and spamming with Caps Locks when some girl who used people as virtual dildos halfway across the ocean didnt want to text marry him. So he made a bunch of dupes and scripted on Kitten to shoot her but got akilled right before he did. He went insane, crying for a lawyer, even Brando changed his name to Mudboner after he killed him. This is the admins favorite player, some dumb ass who spends a lot of money and comes back after akilled time and time again, and they dont even have to offer cash prizes on their game to drain their wallets :’) The Mudbones kept the admins pockets filled its almost sad and you pity the Mudbones. Not a surprise to only see retards like that selling DCs 24/7 in chat inside gay one side fam, a lot of shit got filtered out but some large fail boulders remain, the biggest of em all lol
Anonymous (21:37:08 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 21:31:57 on 25/06:
Anonymous at 18:56:08 on 25/06:
I really shouldn't get involved since I haven't played in a while and have no plans to start again anytime soon. But anyway, my two cents. This will be a long message...

Pacting and blooding is the BIG problem the game have at the moment. Most families, or rather the top of families, are followers and just happy to have a "top" position and play without any ambitions what so ever.

Anonymous at 01:25:03 on 25/06:
Plating doesn’t tell others to pussy pact and shoot for everyone.

This guy gets it. Plating, or the other changes admins are making, won’t do shit. It is always the same people starting families, they just use different family names. So the play style will stay the same. Pacting, blooding, shit like that. Which means admins have to force people to play differently, force more people to start families, force players to play for themselves.

Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

Not the worst idea I suppose, but I don't think it is enough. I think this will just result in one big war at GF and the vers will be over after that. Pretty much like this round. Pacting and blooding is still the problem.

Anonymous at 11:21:04 on 22/06:
Make bloods an ingame option.
Each fam should have a dropdown box where they can select a fam to invite for bloods. If they accept, you are now bloods. So the max would be one blood per fam, while blood chain is impossible.
It should include some serious benefits if the game is won by a fam or two blooding fams, so that would discourage "non-official" bloods.

Add "State of war" button. When fams A and B declare on X and Y, they can only target each other, and members receive 48 hrs plating protection from all outsiders. That will make wars 1 vs 1, 2 vs 1, 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 2. This special plating should make fam members involved in a war 3 times harder to kill by outsiders, or fams not part of the war.

Remove the start plating cuz it sucks and makes the game predictable.

Just an idea. What do you guys think?

Anonymous at 09:33:36 on 22/06:
How about limiting the number of members per famaly? No more than 50 members, just an example

Something like this. But I would go even further. I will write a whole essay about my ideas, just keep reading. :D Just wanted to include these quotes so it doesn't look like I'm stealing the ideas...

So how to get rid of pacting and blooding with pretty much everybody? How to force people into playing for their own family, the top to play for themselves etc.? That require big changes, changes that would make the game quite different from what it is today. What worked 15 years ago with thousands of players doesn’t really work today with only a few hundred active players. And to be fair, there have been so many changes since the good old days that the game is not at all what it used to be so to make more big changes isn’t the end of the world.

So, one thing is to have a members limit on families. That would make more families. E.g. to have families with max 50 members as suggested by Mr. Anonymous. Or perhaps even less, 40 members or even 30. Top would want active members, who can shoot and defend the family, which would make dupes worth less.

But how do you force these families to play for themselves and not just be part of a big pact? One idea that I think is pretty good, even though it changes the fundamentality of the game, is to have an ingame blood and “go to war” option, just like Mr. Anonymously suggested. Gangbanging would not be an option. Blood 80% of the families and have a big pact would be much harder. Then ofc you can chose to go to war with another family but you don’t actually shoot anyone, you just do it to protect both families. But that would weaken the family somehow. Spots close down for a couple of days, local mob would swoop in and rob the members of money or even kill a few of them etc.

And to make families more active and not just sit around waiting and hiding, and to avoid dupe families that can’t do anything, members would, after a certain amount of time of family inactivity, randomly start dying (a-killed) from e.g. car accidents, local mob hits, illness etc. Top 3 and capos would have a higher chance of dying from these deaths. I believe that would make families to take action.

Obviously families can still be “unofficial bloods”. But it wouldn’t be as easy as it is now. With no 10 vs 1 gangbang, no merging into one big fam, etc. And they cannot just sit around playing Sims cuz then they will get a-killed. And with new families around we would get new tops and hopefully they would have a new game style where they try to play for their own family and not for another family.

One big change I would like to see, which will never happen though, is that one would not just rank in rank but also in skill. Depending on the crimes you do you would rank up in skills like shooting, driving, explosives, leadership etc. Each skill would have its advantage and disadvantage. E.g. an account with high driving skills would get extra points when online cuz he can outdrive his opponent but less when offline. An account with high explosives skills would have an advantage when killing offline accounts but have a weakness against another skill(s) etc. Which skills should be around and which advantages, disadvantages and against who and what is something that needs to be put more thought in. But it would be fun and would make the game more tactical. And there would be different families with different strengths depending on which skills they prefer.

I suppose no one read this rant till the end but if you did, feel free to comment what you think. Am I totally mad and this would not change a thing or could this make the game better? Want to go further on these ideas? How could we prevent big pacting? Share with us.

Sry for long post.

Rant over.

PS. Sry for grammatical errors and typos.
+1

Agree
Anonymous (21:31:57 - 25-06)
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Anonymous at 18:56:08 on 25/06:
I really shouldn't get involved since I haven't played in a while and have no plans to start again anytime soon. But anyway, my two cents. This will be a long message...

Pacting and blooding is the BIG problem the game have at the moment. Most families, or rather the top of families, are followers and just happy to have a "top" position and play without any ambitions what so ever.

Anonymous at 01:25:03 on 25/06:
Plating doesn’t tell others to pussy pact and shoot for everyone.

This guy gets it. Plating, or the other changes admins are making, won’t do shit. It is always the same people starting families, they just use different family names. So the play style will stay the same. Pacting, blooding, shit like that. Which means admins have to force people to play differently, force more people to start families, force players to play for themselves.

Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

Not the worst idea I suppose, but I don't think it is enough. I think this will just result in one big war at GF and the vers will be over after that. Pretty much like this round. Pacting and blooding is still the problem.

Anonymous at 11:21:04 on 22/06:
Make bloods an ingame option.
Each fam should have a dropdown box where they can select a fam to invite for bloods. If they accept, you are now bloods. So the max would be one blood per fam, while blood chain is impossible.
It should include some serious benefits if the game is won by a fam or two blooding fams, so that would discourage "non-official" bloods.

Add "State of war" button. When fams A and B declare on X and Y, they can only target each other, and members receive 48 hrs plating protection from all outsiders. That will make wars 1 vs 1, 2 vs 1, 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 2. This special plating should make fam members involved in a war 3 times harder to kill by outsiders, or fams not part of the war.

Remove the start plating cuz it sucks and makes the game predictable.

Just an idea. What do you guys think?

Anonymous at 09:33:36 on 22/06:
How about limiting the number of members per famaly? No more than 50 members, just an example

Something like this. But I would go even further. I will write a whole essay about my ideas, just keep reading. :D Just wanted to include these quotes so it doesn't look like I'm stealing the ideas...

So how to get rid of pacting and blooding with pretty much everybody? How to force people into playing for their own family, the top to play for themselves etc.? That require big changes, changes that would make the game quite different from what it is today. What worked 15 years ago with thousands of players doesn’t really work today with only a few hundred active players. And to be fair, there have been so many changes since the good old days that the game is not at all what it used to be so to make more big changes isn’t the end of the world.

So, one thing is to have a members limit on families. That would make more families. E.g. to have families with max 50 members as suggested by Mr. Anonymous. Or perhaps even less, 40 members or even 30. Top would want active members, who can shoot and defend the family, which would make dupes worth less.

But how do you force these families to play for themselves and not just be part of a big pact? One idea that I think is pretty good, even though it changes the fundamentality of the game, is to have an ingame blood and “go to war” option, just like Mr. Anonymously suggested. Gangbanging would not be an option. Blood 80% of the families and have a big pact would be much harder. Then ofc you can chose to go to war with another family but you don’t actually shoot anyone, you just do it to protect both families. But that would weaken the family somehow. Spots close down for a couple of days, local mob would swoop in and rob the members of money or even kill a few of them etc.

And to make families more active and not just sit around waiting and hiding, and to avoid dupe families that can’t do anything, members would, after a certain amount of time of family inactivity, randomly start dying (a-killed) from e.g. car accidents, local mob hits, illness etc. Top 3 and capos would have a higher chance of dying from these deaths. I believe that would make families to take action.

Obviously families can still be “unofficial bloods”. But it wouldn’t be as easy as it is now. With no 10 vs 1 gangbang, no merging into one big fam, etc. And they cannot just sit around playing Sims cuz then they will get a-killed. And with new families around we would get new tops and hopefully they would have a new game style where they try to play for their own family and not for another family.

One big change I would like to see, which will never happen though, is that one would not just rank in rank but also in skill. Depending on the crimes you do you would rank up in skills like shooting, driving, explosives, leadership etc. Each skill would have its advantage and disadvantage. E.g. an account with high driving skills would get extra points when online cuz he can outdrive his opponent but less when offline. An account with high explosives skills would have an advantage when killing offline accounts but have a weakness against another skill(s) etc. Which skills should be around and which advantages, disadvantages and against who and what is something that needs to be put more thought in. But it would be fun and would make the game more tactical. And there would be different families with different strengths depending on which skills they prefer.

I suppose no one read this rant till the end but if you did, feel free to comment what you think. Am I totally mad and this would not change a thing or could this make the game better? Want to go further on these ideas? How could we prevent big pacting? Share with us.

Sry for long post.

Rant over.

PS. Sry for grammatical errors and typos.
+1
Anonymous (20:39:31 - 25-06)
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+1
Mostly the same old wasted lifes coming together for comfort and love.
Their life passed them by, so they settled with having 30 Top3 accounts to feel special and not much enemies since whatever is left is mainly dupes. How long can it go on for? o0

Anonymous at 18:56:08 on 25/06:
I really shouldn't get involved since I haven't played in a while and have no plans to start again anytime soon. But anyway, my two cents. This will be a long message...

Pacting and blooding is the BIG problem the game have at the moment. Most families, or rather the top of families, are followers and just happy to have a "top" position and play without any ambitions what so ever.

Anonymous at 01:25:03 on 25/06:
Plating doesn’t tell others to pussy pact and shoot for everyone.

This guy gets it. Plating, or the other changes admins are making, won’t do shit. It is always the same people starting families, they just use different family names. So the play style will stay the same. Pacting, blooding, shit like that. Which means admins have to force people to play differently, force more people to start families, force players to play for themselves.

Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

Not the worst idea I suppose, but I don't think it is enough. I think this will just result in one big war at GF and the vers will be over after that. Pretty much like this round. Pacting and blooding is still the problem.

Anonymous at 11:21:04 on 22/06:
Make bloods an ingame option.
Each fam should have a dropdown box where they can select a fam to invite for bloods. If they accept, you are now bloods. So the max would be one blood per fam, while blood chain is impossible.
It should include some serious benefits if the game is won by a fam or two blooding fams, so that would discourage "non-official" bloods.

Add "State of war" button. When fams A and B declare on X and Y, they can only target each other, and members receive 48 hrs plating protection from all outsiders. That will make wars 1 vs 1, 2 vs 1, 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 2. This special plating should make fam members involved in a war 3 times harder to kill by outsiders, or fams not part of the war.

Remove the start plating cuz it sucks and makes the game predictable.

Just an idea. What do you guys think?

Anonymous at 09:33:36 on 22/06:
How about limiting the number of members per famaly? No more than 50 members, just an example

Something like this. But I would go even further. I will write a whole essay about my ideas, just keep reading. :D Just wanted to include these quotes so it doesn't look like I'm stealing the ideas...

So how to get rid of pacting and blooding with pretty much everybody? How to force people into playing for their own family, the top to play for themselves etc.? That require big changes, changes that would make the game quite different from what it is today. What worked 15 years ago with thousands of players doesn’t really work today with only a few hundred active players. And to be fair, there have been so many changes since the good old days that the game is not at all what it used to be so to make more big changes isn’t the end of the world.

So, one thing is to have a members limit on families. That would make more families. E.g. to have families with max 50 members as suggested by Mr. Anonymous. Or perhaps even less, 40 members or even 30. Top would want active members, who can shoot and defend the family, which would make dupes worth less.

But how do you force these families to play for themselves and not just be part of a big pact? One idea that I think is pretty good, even though it changes the fundamentality of the game, is to have an ingame blood and “go to war” option, just like Mr. Anonymously suggested. Gangbanging would not be an option. Blood 80% of the families and have a big pact would be much harder. Then ofc you can chose to go to war with another family but you don’t actually shoot anyone, you just do it to protect both families. But that would weaken the family somehow. Spots close down for a couple of days, local mob would swoop in and rob the members of money or even kill a few of them etc.

And to make families more active and not just sit around waiting and hiding, and to avoid dupe families that can’t do anything, members would, after a certain amount of time of family inactivity, randomly start dying (a-killed) from e.g. car accidents, local mob hits, illness etc. Top 3 and capos would have a higher chance of dying from these deaths. I believe that would make families to take action.

Obviously families can still be “unofficial bloods”. But it wouldn’t be as easy as it is now. With no 10 vs 1 gangbang, no merging into one big fam, etc. And they cannot just sit around playing Sims cuz then they will get a-killed. And with new families around we would get new tops and hopefully they would have a new game style where they try to play for their own family and not for another family.

One big change I would like to see, which will never happen though, is that one would not just rank in rank but also in skill. Depending on the crimes you do you would rank up in skills like shooting, driving, explosives, leadership etc. Each skill would have its advantage and disadvantage. E.g. an account with high driving skills would get extra points when online cuz he can outdrive his opponent but less when offline. An account with high explosives skills would have an advantage when killing offline accounts but have a weakness against another skill(s) etc. Which skills should be around and which advantages, disadvantages and against who and what is something that needs to be put more thought in. But it would be fun and would make the game more tactical. And there would be different families with different strengths depending on which skills they prefer.

I suppose no one read this rant till the end but if you did, feel free to comment what you think. Am I totally mad and this would not change a thing or could this make the game better? Want to go further on these ideas? How could we prevent big pacting? Share with us.

Sry for long post.

Rant over.

PS. Sry for grammatical errors and typos.
Anonymous (20:32:29 - 25-06)
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Ocarina, DJ has always been retarded beyond belief.
He plays in Shield nuff said. A shield to hide behind while searching attention from lonely dutch housewife
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Anonymous at 01:25:03 on 25/06:
Plating doesn’t tell others to pussy pact and shoot for everyone.

The sad part of this logic is there is many people playing forever who don’t understand this.
I couldn’t even believe DJ cheats, I just found it. What kind of retardation happened here?
Anonymous (18:56:08 - 25-06)
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I really shouldn't get involved since I haven't played in a while and have no plans to start again anytime soon. But anyway, my two cents. This will be a long message...

Pacting and blooding is the BIG problem the game have at the moment. Most families, or rather the top of families, are followers and just happy to have a "top" position and play without any ambitions what so ever.

Anonymous at 01:25:03 on 25/06:
Plating doesn’t tell others to pussy pact and shoot for everyone.

This guy gets it. Plating, or the other changes admins are making, won’t do shit. It is always the same people starting families, they just use different family names. So the play style will stay the same. Pacting, blooding, shit like that. Which means admins have to force people to play differently, force more people to start families, force players to play for themselves.

Anonymous at 11:14:56 on 24/06:
Using Milestone is impossible at this moment. Cuz after one night war, winner is certain.

One big war, date is known, all posibilities are known, there is no strategy or surprise attack time anymore.
Ppl stop playing because after 1 month hard work, just dying in 1 night and all done. Shitty.

Admins just need to make 2 changes:

- Activate plating protection till Local Chief, and 24 hours later first fam up, protection will gone.

- If a Local Chief kills another Local Chief, you can use milestones and start as Local Chief.
- If a Chief kills another Chief, you can use milestones and start as Chief.

- If a Bruglione kills another Bruglione, you "can ONLY start as Local Chief".
This will make people to shoot at Bruglione/Godfather wars
because otherwise there is no sense to kill enemy since they will rebirth as same rank.

Is not a bad idea, what you think?

Not the worst idea I suppose, but I don't think it is enough. I think this will just result in one big war at GF and the vers will be over after that. Pretty much like this round. Pacting and blooding is still the problem.

Anonymous at 11:21:04 on 22/06:
Make bloods an ingame option.
Each fam should have a dropdown box where they can select a fam to invite for bloods. If they accept, you are now bloods. So the max would be one blood per fam, while blood chain is impossible.
It should include some serious benefits if the game is won by a fam or two blooding fams, so that would discourage "non-official" bloods.

Add "State of war" button. When fams A and B declare on X and Y, they can only target each other, and members receive 48 hrs plating protection from all outsiders. That will make wars 1 vs 1, 2 vs 1, 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 2. This special plating should make fam members involved in a war 3 times harder to kill by outsiders, or fams not part of the war.

Remove the start plating cuz it sucks and makes the game predictable.

Just an idea. What do you guys think?

Anonymous at 09:33:36 on 22/06:
How about limiting the number of members per famaly? No more than 50 members, just an example

Something like this. But I would go even further. I will write a whole essay about my ideas, just keep reading. :D Just wanted to include these quotes so it doesn't look like I'm stealing the ideas...

So how to get rid of pacting and blooding with pretty much everybody? How to force people into playing for their own family, the top to play for themselves etc.? That require big changes, changes that would make the game quite different from what it is today. What worked 15 years ago with thousands of players doesn’t really work today with only a few hundred active players. And to be fair, there have been so many changes since the good old days that the game is not at all what it used to be so to make more big changes isn’t the end of the world.

So, one thing is to have a members limit on families. That would make more families. E.g. to have families with max 50 members as suggested by Mr. Anonymous. Or perhaps even less, 40 members or even 30. Top would want active members, who can shoot and defend the family, which would make dupes worth less.

But how do you force these families to play for themselves and not just be part of a big pact? One idea that I think is pretty good, even though it changes the fundamentality of the game, is to have an ingame blood and “go to war” option, just like Mr. Anonymously suggested. Gangbanging would not be an option. Blood 80% of the families and have a big pact would be much harder. Then ofc you can chose to go to war with another family but you don’t actually shoot anyone, you just do it to protect both families. But that would weaken the family somehow. Spots close down for a couple of days, local mob would swoop in and rob the members of money or even kill a few of them etc.

And to make families more active and not just sit around waiting and hiding, and to avoid dupe families that can’t do anything, members would, after a certain amount of time of family inactivity, randomly start dying (a-killed) from e.g. car accidents, local mob hits, illness etc. Top 3 and capos would have a higher chance of dying from these deaths. I believe that would make families to take action.

Obviously families can still be “unofficial bloods”. But it wouldn’t be as easy as it is now. With no 10 vs 1 gangbang, no merging into one big fam, etc. And they cannot just sit around playing Sims cuz then they will get a-killed. And with new families around we would get new tops and hopefully they would have a new game style where they try to play for their own family and not for another family.

One big change I would like to see, which will never happen though, is that one would not just rank in rank but also in skill. Depending on the crimes you do you would rank up in skills like shooting, driving, explosives, leadership etc. Each skill would have its advantage and disadvantage. E.g. an account with high driving skills would get extra points when online cuz he can outdrive his opponent but less when offline. An account with high explosives skills would have an advantage when killing offline accounts but have a weakness against another skill(s) etc. Which skills should be around and which advantages, disadvantages and against who and what is something that needs to be put more thought in. But it would be fun and would make the game more tactical. And there would be different families with different strengths depending on which skills they prefer.

I suppose no one read this rant till the end but if you did, feel free to comment what you think. Am I totally mad and this would not change a thing or could this make the game better? Want to go further on these ideas? How could we prevent big pacting? Share with us.

Sry for long post.

Rant over.

PS. Sry for grammatical errors and typos.