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Merton

(16:16:52 - 08-04)

mmm at 14:21:26 on 08/04:

Solstice at 10:02:35 on 08/04:

Critycal at 08:47:28 on 08/04:
MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Just when siberia isn't the most hated family in omerta anymore, murderinc makes a comeback...

Who is the most hated family now then? Who stole our spot?

hmmmmm pyscho maybe :D

mmm

(14:21:26 - 08-04)

Solstice at 10:02:35 on 08/04:

Critycal at 08:47:28 on 08/04:
MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Just when siberia isn't the most hated family in omerta anymore, murderinc makes a comeback...

Who is the most hated family now then? Who stole our spot?

Anonymous (12:11:54 - 08-04)

Solstice at 10:02:35 on 08/04:

Critycal at 08:47:28 on 08/04:
MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Just when siberia isn't the most hated family in omerta anymore, murderinc makes a comeback...

seems he' ll retire forever :)

Solstice (10:02:35 - 08-04)

Critycal at 08:47:28 on 08/04:
MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Just when siberia isn't the most hated family in omerta anymore, murderinc makes a comeback...

Anonymous (09:35:47 - 08-04)

lets talk about the familys in this version :) , who going blood lusa this version? xDDDD , gravano + anarchy?

Anony (09:33:47 - 08-04)

MurderInc at 09:25:25 on 08/04:

Critycal at 08:47:28 on 08/04:
MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Can't help it. I'm just that good.

You guys trying to make yourself popular? wrong way. You guys are addicted to get RAPED.

it is increasing your popularity already. u dont have to try making smth cool :D

MurderInc

(09:25:25 - 08-04)

Critycal at 08:47:28 on 08/04:
MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Can't help it. I'm just that good.

Critycal

(08:47:28 - 08-04)

MurderInc, could you fuck off with being a smartass all the fucking time? You're influencing people's vision on us :(
Thanks, faggot

Toby the Gold fish (07:00:39 - 08-04)

Herb at 18:08:45 on 07/04:

Merton at 16:27:02 on 07/04:
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)

I'd guess Paypal?

Success you have bought 500 bullets for €0.75 !

Anonymous (00:58:44 - 08-04)

Anonymous at 16:26:23 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 16:24:33 on 07/04:

Anonymous at 16:19:05 on 07/04:
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)

If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever

How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf

That's like one half-decent car stolen per user? :s

Yea.. he's tripping lol. There's nothing wrong with these numbers.

Probably doesn't realize people don't even really make empty suit accounts to ghost. There was always like 500 to a 1000 of them at one time In this games history which would've made it much less. Haha to lazy to use my name who gives a fuck anyways.

DenWatts (20:44:44 - 07-04)

MurderInc at 12:50:23 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 11:07:49 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:

mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:

mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/

Are DCs going up in price?

They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.

I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......

They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.

I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.

VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)

Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.

[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/

Thanks understand that. but if my purchase, in the UK same as the game has gone up by 20% for VAT then it should have included it for years. if it has but it has gone up by the same again that raises questions, if it hadnt more questions.

I really worry for who runs this game.

It doesn't seem like you're understanding what I'm saying. The new VAT laws made it impossible for online businesses to skip charging VAT completely (independent of where a customer is living or where the company is located). It also says that the VAT rate should be set depending on where the customer resides.

You've gone from "OMG THEY RAISED THE DC PRICE" to "OMG THEY NEVER CHARGED VAT BEFORE, AMATEURS". Can't have it both ways.

Other payment methods might have VAT included already, or might be subject to different regulations, no idea. They might also charge lower fees and have less of a chargeback risk compared to PayPal, which would be taken into account when the price is set.

I understood, thank you

Herb (18:08:45 - 07-04)

Merton at 16:27:02 on 07/04:
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)

I'd guess Paypal?

MurderInc

(17:52:37 - 07-04)

Merton at 16:27:02 on 07/04:
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)

Gotta get those 500 bullets.

Wesleysld can confirm.

Merton

(16:27:02 - 07-04)

Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)

Anonymous (16:26:23 - 07-04)

MurderInc at 16:24:33 on 07/04:

Anonymous at 16:19:05 on 07/04:
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)

If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever

How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf

That's like one half-decent car stolen per user? :s

Yea.. he's tripping lol. There's nothing wrong with these numbers.

MurderInc

(16:24:33 - 07-04)

Anonymous at 16:19:05 on 07/04:
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)

If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever

How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf

That's like one half-decent car stolen per user? :s

Anonymous (16:19:05 - 07-04)

Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)

If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever

How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf

MurderInc

(12:50:23 - 07-04)

DenWatts at 11:07:49 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:

mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:

mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/

Are DCs going up in price?

They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.

I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......

They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.

I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.

VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)

Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.

[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/

Thanks understand that. but if my purchase, in the UK same as the game has gone up by 20% for VAT then it should have included it for years. if it has but it has gone up by the same again that raises questions, if it hadnt more questions.

I really worry for who runs this game.

It doesn't seem like you're understanding what I'm saying. The new VAT laws made it impossible for online businesses to skip charging VAT completely (independent of where a customer is living or where the company is located). It also says that the VAT rate should be set depending on where the customer resides.

You've gone from "OMG THEY RAISED THE DC PRICE" to "OMG THEY NEVER CHARGED VAT BEFORE, AMATEURS". Can't have it both ways.

Other payment methods might have VAT included already, or might be subject to different regulations, no idea. They might also charge lower fees and have less of a chargeback risk compared to PayPal, which would be taken into account when the price is set.

Redspeert

(12:14:44 - 07-04)

Johnx at 11:07:06 on 07/04:

Anonymous at 11:04:25 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:

mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:

mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/

Are DCs going up in price?

They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.

I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......

They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.

I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.

VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)

Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.

[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/

So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?

Nope, not through daopay it seems, since the price hasn't changed

I'm paying 24 kroner for daopay/zaopay and 36 for paypal. So long 500 bullets, was nice knowing you ;(

DenWatts (11:07:49 - 07-04)

MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:

MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:

mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:

DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:

mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/

Are DCs going up in price?

They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.

I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......

They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.

I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.

VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)

Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.

[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/

Thanks understand that. but if my purchase, in the UK same as the game has gone up by 20% for VAT then it should have included it for years. if it has but it has gone up by the same again that raises questions, if it hadnt more questions.

I really worry for who runs this game.