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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
DenWatts (20:44:44 - 07-04)
Herb (18:08:45 - 07-04)
Merton at 16:27:02 on 07/04:
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)
I'd guess Paypal?
Merton at 16:27:02 on 07/04:
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)
Wesleysld can confirm.
Daopay in Ireland costs me €2.85 (which I presume has vat already added)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)
Paypal is now €3.60 I wonder which one I will use :)
Anonymous (16:26:23 - 07-04)
MurderInc at 16:24:33 on 07/04:
That's like one half-decent car stolen per user? :s
Anonymous at 16:19:05 on 07/04:
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)
If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever
How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)
If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever
How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf
Yea.. he's tripping lol. There's nothing wrong with these numbers.
Anonymous at 16:19:05 on 07/04:
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)
If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever
How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)
If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever
How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf
Anonymous (16:19:05 - 07-04)
Pocket Money: $58,344,220 ($33,416/user) Bank Money: $11,163,010 ($6,393/user)
If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever
How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf
If this is right... We will have the same shit problems like ever
How is in this game after 6hours so much money really just one person explain it to me pls 59m + 11m wtf
DenWatts at 11:07:49 on 07/04:
Thanks understand that. but if my purchase, in the UK same as the game has gone up by 20% for VAT then it should have included it for years. if it has but it has gone up by the same again that raises questions, if it hadnt more questions.
I really worry for who runs this game.
MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:
VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
I really worry for who runs this game.
You've gone from "OMG THEY RAISED THE DC PRICE" to "OMG THEY NEVER CHARGED VAT BEFORE, AMATEURS". Can't have it both ways.
Other payment methods might have VAT included already, or might be subject to different regulations, no idea. They might also charge lower fees and have less of a chargeback risk compared to PayPal, which would be taken into account when the price is set.
Johnx at 11:07:06 on 07/04:
Nope, not through daopay it seems, since the price hasn't changed
Anonymous at 11:04:25 on 07/04:
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?
MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:
VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?
I'm paying 24 kroner for daopay/zaopay and 36 for paypal. So long 500 bullets, was nice knowing you ;(
DenWatts (11:07:49 - 07-04)
MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:
VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
I really worry for who runs this game.
Anonymous at 11:04:25 on 07/04:
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?
MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:
VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?
Anonymous (11:04:25 - 07-04)
MurderInc at 10:49:47 on 07/04:
VAT certainly isn't new, but the VAT rules for digital services changed in 2015[1]. Before that, there were many loopholes, especially for services sold to customers in other countries. The new rules state that the VAT rate of the buyer's country applies. If this came up in an audit the tax authorities did for FY 2015, then that would match with the timing of when they started charging VAT. (The last bit is just speculation.)
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
So thr tax is being collected on all methods of payment in every country ?
DenWatts at 10:38:01 on 07/04:
I know you know this, but, VAT isnt new, certainly in the UK where the game is based. Also you arent buying a service you are donating which is why it wouldnt have previously applied.
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
DenWatts (10:38:01 - 07-04)
MurderInc at 10:28:40 on 07/04:
They started charging VAT, probably because of some new EU-wide VAT tax laws that passed a while ago. Businesses merely collect VAT for the tax authorities, they don't get to keep it.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 10:16:02 on 07/04:
I guess to keep them in the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed selling less they need to sell what they can for me. Pity they seem to spend it on magic beans and sit in the dark singing lalalalalalalala I cant hear you.......
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts (10:16:56 - 07-04)
ffs yes I am a spelling fucktard
DenWatts (10:16:38 - 07-04)
eeek nor for me, for more!
DenWatts (10:16:02 - 07-04)
mmm at 08:36:49 on 07/04:
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Anonymous (08:37:23 - 07-04)
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
yea 0,60 or smth like that :)
DenWatts at 08:21:29 on 07/04:
Are DCs going up in price?
mmm at 07:42:32 on 07/04:
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
So who's ready for another round of Omerta where we need to pay more money for DC's with a larger chance of suffering a suicide? \o/
They've been raised up by like, I guess 21%, something to do with taxes now having to be paid as well. Ask the bright minded MurderInc for details. But yea, they've gone up quite a bit and we're expected to strive forward without complaint.
Donations, as legally defined, are limited to not-for-profit organizations, which isn't the case here. Just because it's called a donation doesn't mean it's not a digital good that's being sold, so VAT laws apply here.
[1]: http://euvataction.org/key-facts/
I really worry for who runs this game.
You've gone from "OMG THEY RAISED THE DC PRICE" to "OMG THEY NEVER CHARGED VAT BEFORE, AMATEURS". Can't have it both ways.
Other payment methods might have VAT included already, or might be subject to different regulations, no idea. They might also charge lower fees and have less of a chargeback risk compared to PayPal, which would be taken into account when the price is set.