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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (20:46:59 - 05-01)
faffie sold their bloods , end of discussion...
Anonymous at 18:57:20 on 05/01:
Meh I'm kind of disappointed with your follow up posts. I did expect more tbh but you clearly don't look at the big picture instead get tangled in the smaller one. I see no point in continuing this so this will be my last response to you.
I gave the capitalis example to prove a point. So you are saying that last version you made a promise to one person thats why you left Capitalis but this version you made promises to two people and that was too much to leave Aeterna? :) NO! Last version after Catania died you were left with Maraz as Capitalis and your faiths were tied and it was pretty obvious Maraz was going down. So you decided to leave them,break your commitment, and join Catania people to up a new fam so you could continue with Impact/Anarchy if Maraz died. This version however you decided not to break your word and stay in Aeterna. The only thing common in these both situations were that you chose the path that you could have survived. That's why I was pointing out how your account is important on your decisions and how your decision on joining Aeterna just shows how your actions and words contradict each other. Since you choose to join a power house and have an easier version then joining an underdog and fighting them that's why i mentioned how Faffie would be a nice suit for you :)
I hope you understand the reasoning after the last 3 posts I made and why I turned it personal against you by giving examples of your actions since they were clearly against your words. Anyways I will always like you as a person but that doesn't mean I also respect you. Good luck..
Rosegarden at 18:23:50 on 05/01:
I like the Sweety part :p
Was it now or last version i was afraid of loosing me account?
anyways, i fail to see how me leaving capitalis last version is ON topic? but hey im bored, so i'll bite. I made a deal with one person, if i joined capi he would stay too, else he would go play in another fam. And i can promise you, that he totally understood my decision. What went wrong in capi was mostly on me idd, and i have never said anything else :)
again i fail, where did i say my account was importent? i stopped ranking a long time ago, i dont i even have lackeys on, have not had for a long time. And the last part about joining faffie where does that come from? lol
Anonymous at 17:47:18 on 05/01:
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
Rosegarden at 16:55:03 on 05/01:
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
I like the Sweety part :p
Was it now or last version i was afraid of loosing me account?
anyways, i fail to see how me leaving capitalis last version is ON topic? but hey im bored, so i'll bite. I made a deal with one person, if i joined capi he would stay too, else he would go play in another fam. And i can promise you, that he totally understood my decision. What went wrong in capi was mostly on me idd, and i have never said anything else :)
again i fail, where did i say my account was importent? i stopped ranking a long time ago, i dont i even have lackeys on, have not had for a long time. And the last part about joining faffie where does that come from? lol
Meh I'm kind of disappointed with your follow up posts. I did expect more tbh but you clearly don't look at the big picture instead get tangled in the smaller one. I see no point in continuing this so this will be my last response to you.
I gave the capitalis example to prove a point. So you are saying that last version you made a promise to one person thats why you left Capitalis but this version you made promises to two people and that was too much to leave Aeterna? :) NO! Last version after Catania died you were left with Maraz as Capitalis and your faiths were tied and it was pretty obvious Maraz was going down. So you decided to leave them,break your commitment, and join Catania people to up a new fam so you could continue with Impact/Anarchy if Maraz died. This version however you decided not to break your word and stay in Aeterna. The only thing common in these both situations were that you chose the path that you could have survived. That's why I was pointing out how your account is important on your decisions and how your decision on joining Aeterna just shows how your actions and words contradict each other. Since you choose to join a power house and have an easier version then joining an underdog and fighting them that's why i mentioned how Faffie would be a nice suit for you :)
I hope you understand the reasoning after the last 3 posts I made and why I turned it personal against you by giving examples of your actions since they were clearly against your words. Anyways I will always like you as a person but that doesn't mean I also respect you. Good luck..
but that makes no sense? if i wanted to "safe" my account, i would have stayed in capi as fl with the strongst account in the game, capi and "moneymake" were alrdy bloods, and cata had a "we dont attack our bloods blood" thingy going on with their bloods. If my account was SO importent to me last version, i would have accepted the sl that i was offered instead of suiciding on a gf in vila. I just wantet to freaking die.
If i gave a damn about my account this version, i would at least have bought dc's so i could have lackeys running. I would have kept ranking when i got to #1.
You can accuse me of a lot of things, but that one is just wrong :) e.g not carring enough to get anything out of me accounts. But that is me, when i stop having fun, i stop carring. As top last version, stop carring rly was not an option, and i wish i would have been strong enough to finish that version in a better way, but loosing sleep over an onlinegame seemed, i dont know, a bit uhm not worth it, so i desided to take the easy way out, and keep my mental health a bit longer. As i said, im aware that most of the problems there is on me, and i toke the consequences of it, and left, so the rest could try and get it to work. None of this is any of your buiness :-)
This time, what would be the point in leaving? where should i go? what fam would let a strong brug account in, they dont rly know all the well midtgame? i know i would not as top.
The only point i see in you posts is, that it is my point of view on the game that does not fit anymore, and im fin with that, i think my addiction is finally cured. Toke long enoug :)
Best of luck with the upcoming versions.
Anonymous (19:16:25 - 05-01)
Instead of blaming Aeterna, i blame the fams weak enough to ask or accept bloodships from Aeterna. Maraz, Empire, Faffie was established pretty early on right? Ferrante/Anarchy blooding Aeterna was just bad gameplay by those two fams. I dont think the fams who blooded Aeterna in the very start liked that they added 2 additional big bloods. Its pretty clear Aeterna would do everything needed in order to win. The excuse that Indelicato blooded Grav, Krays, Prov+ etc is also rather weak. Many fams have alot of haters out there, that doesnt mean they blood the other half of the game
Anonymous (18:57:20 - 05-01)
Rosegarden at 18:23:50 on 05/01:
I like the Sweety part :p
Was it now or last version i was afraid of loosing me account?
anyways, i fail to see how me leaving capitalis last version is ON topic? but hey im bored, so i'll bite. I made a deal with one person, if i joined capi he would stay too, else he would go play in another fam. And i can promise you, that he totally understood my decision. What went wrong in capi was mostly on me idd, and i have never said anything else :)
again i fail, where did i say my account was importent? i stopped ranking a long time ago, i dont i even have lackeys on, have not had for a long time. And the last part about joining faffie where does that come from? lol
Anonymous at 17:47:18 on 05/01:
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
Rosegarden at 16:55:03 on 05/01:
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
I like the Sweety part :p
Was it now or last version i was afraid of loosing me account?
anyways, i fail to see how me leaving capitalis last version is ON topic? but hey im bored, so i'll bite. I made a deal with one person, if i joined capi he would stay too, else he would go play in another fam. And i can promise you, that he totally understood my decision. What went wrong in capi was mostly on me idd, and i have never said anything else :)
again i fail, where did i say my account was importent? i stopped ranking a long time ago, i dont i even have lackeys on, have not had for a long time. And the last part about joining faffie where does that come from? lol
Meh I'm kind of disappointed with your follow up posts. I did expect more tbh but you clearly don't look at the big picture instead get tangled in the smaller one. I see no point in continuing this so this will be my last response to you.
I gave the capitalis example to prove a point. So you are saying that last version you made a promise to one person thats why you left Capitalis but this version you made promises to two people and that was too much to leave Aeterna? :) NO! Last version after Catania died you were left with Maraz as Capitalis and your faiths were tied and it was pretty obvious Maraz was going down. So you decided to leave them,break your commitment, and join Catania people to up a new fam so you could continue with Impact/Anarchy if Maraz died. This version however you decided not to break your word and stay in Aeterna. The only thing common in these both situations were that you chose the path that you could have survived. That's why I was pointing out how your account is important on your decisions and how your decision on joining Aeterna just shows how your actions and words contradict each other. Since you choose to join a power house and have an easier version then joining an underdog and fighting them that's why i mentioned how Faffie would be a nice suit for you :)
I hope you understand the reasoning after the last 3 posts I made and why I turned it personal against you by giving examples of your actions since they were clearly against your words. Anyways I will always like you as a person but that doesn't mean I also respect you. Good luck..
Anonymous (18:54:23 - 05-01)
Rosegarden at 18:08:56 on 05/01:
freaking hell, i just wanted to know if this is what ppl find fun
freaking hell, i just wanted to know if this is what ppl find fun
I believe simply blaming Aeterna and their blood decisions would be too easy though.
This version started with a huge akill wave. Some fams got seriously crippled by that even before they went up by losing most of their top rankers (which was fair and everything, but obviously had influence on the rest of the version).
As for the spot distribution, you had a family with a lot of very active players holding the best spots in Detroit. Allowing a family that's as eager to shoot as Faffie to hold those objects is basically an invitation for them to shoot everything that moves without running out of bullets.
Add to that the fact that for the first time in quite a few versions, the opening war wasn't Gravano/Faffie/Anarchy & co. vs. Vaffan/Blackrose/Theogony/Aeterna (yeah, I know, not the same fams, but you get my point.)
This meant the game didn't lose all those strong accounts early on, and it seems the rest of the fams had a hard time handling that (it's much easier to clean the winning side afterwards when they're decimated). I don't think you can blame those fams for wanting to avoid the same opening war for a change. The other fams will just have to learn to live with those changes.
Aeternas blooding, well, it might have been a bit over the top. If you look at the numbers objectively, you'll see they've had around 30-35% of highranks on their side (that's their numbers and direct bloods, and you can probably add another 10% for fams that usually shoot with those bloods and/or their as1's - i.e. Gambino moving with Faffie/Anarchy a lot). Then again, they saw a huge threat in DIG/Prov+ forming an alliance against them, and seeing as Gravano/Impact/Kurosawa joined the first chance they got as well, I believe we've seen worse blood decisions considering their situation (anyone remember Marazzinos blood list?).
So yeah, various reasons this version went the way it did. I believe however that it was a neccessary change to the usual "this-side-vs-that-side"-versions we've seen for a long time, and it might have some positive effects in the long-run. Let's see what those other fams can make out of this new situation.
Anonymous (18:46:58 - 05-01)
Lets face it, the version ended with the Death of THE Emlin....
there just isn't enough fun charming people around to carry a version the way I do ;)
there just isn't enough fun charming people around to carry a version the way I do ;)
Anonymous at 17:47:18 on 05/01:
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
Rosegarden at 16:55:03 on 05/01:
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
I like the Sweety part :p
Was it now or last version i was afraid of loosing me account?
anyways, i fail to see how me leaving capitalis last version is ON topic? but hey im bored, so i'll bite. I made a deal with one person, if i joined capi he would stay too, else he would go play in another fam. And i can promise you, that he totally understood my decision. What went wrong in capi was mostly on me idd, and i have never said anything else :)
again i fail, where did i say my account was importent? i stopped ranking a long time ago, i dont i even have lackeys on, have not had for a long time. And the last part about joining faffie where does that come from? lol
Anonymous at 18:06:43 on 05/01:
People tried explaining you but you don't respond to that. There were bigger families and alliances that teamed up to shoot them down. What should be done? Just lay on your back and let big alliances who often hug and gangbang their way threw?
They blooded non related families who were also enemies of eachother. Most of their bloods shot at eachother and they ended with 3 families in the end which really shows they tried downscaling pacts and alliances.
Its a small victory for normal families that don't want to pact or join up with alliances.
Rosegarden at 16:55:03 on 05/01:
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
People tried explaining you but you don't respond to that. There were bigger families and alliances that teamed up to shoot them down. What should be done? Just lay on your back and let big alliances who often hug and gangbang their way threw?
They blooded non related families who were also enemies of eachother. Most of their bloods shot at eachother and they ended with 3 families in the end which really shows they tried downscaling pacts and alliances.
Its a small victory for normal families that don't want to pact or join up with alliances.
uhm but they were blooded to maraz and faffie long before then? this is getting way to personal, freaking hell, i just wanted to know if this is what ppl find fun
Anonymous (18:06:43 - 05-01)
Rosegarden at 16:55:03 on 05/01:
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
People tried explaining you but you don't respond to that. There were bigger families and alliances that teamed up to shoot them down. What should be done? Just lay on your back and let big alliances who often hug and gangbang their way threw?
They blooded non related families who were also enemies of eachother. Most of their bloods shot at eachother and they ended with 3 families in the end which really shows they tried downscaling pacts and alliances.
Its a small victory for normal families that don't want to pact or join up with alliances.
Anonymous (17:47:18 - 05-01)
Rosegarden at 16:55:03 on 05/01:
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.
Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.
This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.
See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)
Anonymous at 15:51:58 on 05/01:
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)
Anonymous (16:51:29 - 05-01)
Rosegarden at 12:31:23 on 05/01:
i do agree on that :) does not stop me from thinking it is stupid when the 3 powerhouses (only based on numbers here) deside to blood up tho :)
Anonymous at 12:10:48 on 05/01:
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
i do agree on that :) does not stop me from thinking it is stupid when the 3 powerhouses (only based on numbers here) deside to blood up tho :)
The 3 powerhouses didn't blood up tho. Based on statspage: Maraz wasn't blooded to Faffie.
Next to that the other big houses were Provenzano++ (same size as Aeterna) wasn't blooded to any of those. Ascension was a good sized alliance and so was Jannisary alliance. All were not connected to them.
Anonymous (15:51:58 - 05-01)
@Rose
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?
Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?
Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?
What a hypocrite you are eh? :)
But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..
Anonymous (14:39:38 - 05-01)
What I don't get is, why Destination-Prov-Levi and Krays decided to blood Gravano this version.
Gravano are on a downward spiral for the last versions, so that move was like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.
Gravano are on a downward spiral for the last versions, so that move was like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.
Anonymous (13:32:26 - 05-01)
people will always blame others...either wins are cowardly done...than fams are blamed for always fighting same wars and if you change things up...these fams get blamed for blooding each other.
The reason why this version unfolded as it has is, playmakers > lackeys.
Aeterna and Faffie are fams that can fight even outnumbered on even ground for a not so short time...furthermore they are probably the most warlike of the fams...so they get alot of action and action with this KA means strong accounts. On the other hand...the main threats(each other) are removed that gives alot more confidence as the remaining fams are not that warlike and therefor not so strong.
The reason why this version unfolded as it has is, playmakers > lackeys.
Aeterna and Faffie are fams that can fight even outnumbered on even ground for a not so short time...furthermore they are probably the most warlike of the fams...so they get alot of action and action with this KA means strong accounts. On the other hand...the main threats(each other) are removed that gives alot more confidence as the remaining fams are not that warlike and therefor not so strong.
Solstice (13:19:09 - 05-01)
Rosegarden at 12:31:23 on 05/01:
i do agree on that :) does not stop me from thinking it is stupid when the 3 powerhouses (only based on numbers here) deside to blood up tho :)
Anonymous at 12:10:48 on 05/01:
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
i do agree on that :) does not stop me from thinking it is stupid when the 3 powerhouses (only based on numbers here) deside to blood up tho :)
Maraz wasn't blooded to faffie, or the other way around, which left plenty of opportunities open for other fams to plan something.
Anonymous at 12:10:48 on 05/01:
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
i do agree on that :) does not stop me from thinking it is stupid when the 3 powerhouses (only based on numbers here) deside to blood up tho :)
Anonymous (12:10:48 - 05-01)
Rosegarden: aeterna and faffie didn't have a massive amount of bloods. Aeterna was actually going to play with 3 bloods untill they saw complete alliances trying to work together to get them downed.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
Now what they did was blood a couple non related families and defended themselves, you can say whatever you want but they have never had the intention to and this version with 10-15 families (which is overall half of all families in the game because there's always 10 shit families).
They had no intention to pact and they have finished the version with the lowest amount of families a version has ever ended with. I don't think there's ever been a version that ended with 3 families. But of course you prefer the versions in which all families join up pacts, do 1 big war against each other and lock the version with 10-15 families which aren't even always blooded to eachother.
This version could and should have been more exciting but I am not sure if faffie or aeterna deserve to be blamed for that since they have the better intentions. Instead what you can look at is why a family such as faffie can keep shooting unlimited. You've fed them money yourself.
Next to that you have moron families lately that see threats everywhere. I mean look at the biggest war of the version: DIG gets shot at by Faffie (enemies of marazzino) and half omerta starts shooting at Aeterna causing all other big families to join the war. Top of the cake, morons like Gravano start shooting against their aeterna too, while their blood Faffie is already shooting for aeterna. Imagen what would happen if Kurosawa / Impact / Gravano would've just stayed alive and marazzino would still have died. Things would've been a hell lot more interesting. It's the gameplay of certain pact families and alliance families that have no clue how to play alone and when they do they show they play like utter noobs.
All those victories in their past version are purely based on pacting and alliances because without they show to be useless.
Anonymous at 19:35:07 on 04/01:
Or you could perhaps try to use that thing what people have in their head, usually called 'a brain'. Last version's Theogony and this version's Aeterna wasnt exactly the same. And in the version before that most people were in Blackrose and guess what? Righelli's were a target of the opening war for versions too so yes it was version after version. Maybe you should stop crying about pointless shit. The game for us is never about not dying its for us to have fun. Do you think we have fun dying first everytime? No, we don't. Should we keep doing it to please the ignorant masses? No, we don't. So cry some more thinking that we played this way to safe our accounts as we didn't, we played this way so we could actually shoot something ourselves. If you aren't happy about it that's your problem, maybe you should try making a Capitalis and make a difference.
Rosegarden at 18:43:20 on 04/01:
uhm, maybe i have missed some of version after version ... i was sure it only was the 2. version you were up. But hey, if you have to connect half the active accounts in a version to make sure you dont die, then i guess it makes sense...
Anonymous at 10:13:03 on 04/01:
A hail mary? At that point in the game only Justice and Ascension were gone, our blood Anarchy shot by our other blood Maraz. Our blood Faffie wanting to shoot Maraz and the other way around. A family like Indelicato blooded to Provenzano side, Gravano side and minor fams who just do whatever they're told like Traffi/Krays which is truly half of the game. Nobody complains about that since they have died, nobody would have complained about us if we had died. It's easy to complain now in retrospect but we blooded families like Ferrante and Anarchy after we saw what other sides were up to and why shouldn't we? We play this game for our own entertainment and trust me, being the first family shot version after version because of certain families' paranoia isn't fun and never will be fun.
Ofcourse a short version like this isn't that much more fun either but from our perspective it isn't all that different. Now the version is over after a little over a month but we've shot alot. Normally our version is over after 3 weeks while we haven't done shit because we're shot early on because we try to play the game our own way which normally consists of 4-5 trusted bloods regardless of their size. As you could see it didnt work in our favour because funnily enough the people who arent all that active and consist of mainly lackey players value their account more than people who are more active and therefore relied on Faffie to shoot us version after version so they could just lackey a little longer. Has Faffie won in the meantime? No they havent, because they shoot everyone thinks theyre a threat so everyone goes after them. It's actually pretty pathetic isn't it? The more you shoot the more you're loathed in a game that's all about shooting. Maybe people should rethink their priorities, if you want to survive a game without doing much of the shooting or work then play something else like... Call of Duty? The people there suck as much as the people here but hey atleast you respawn all the time and even when you just noob around like a turd atleast you win when other people do all the work.
And for Fenrir, it was a pleasure working with you guys for a change. I can understand the disappointment in how the version ended but I guess it was because of a lack of communication. Until the last war we never had any interest in breaking the agreement of finishing with 5 fams eventhough we were basically unrelated to Gambino/Alcatraz. But when a fam goes up and after a few days is made an 'asone' we saw it as a deal being broken as the deal was to finish with 5 fams, not 6. We all know that an asone nowadays doesnt mean that the family is the same. People keep saying Lusa and Aeterna are asone but this is in fact false too. We're close but if we were asone that meant we had a say in how Lusa managed their fam, we don't. Same as Lusa not having a say in how Aeterna was managed. In the same way Nwo which consisted of Illuminati players, I guess, wasn't really 'asone' with Gambino but for them a desperate attempt to survive until the end? Anyhow it's not really something that should be discussed here so the fine details can be talked about in private.
Also on a last note for the rest of the players, have fun next version as I highly doubt Aeterna will be around as big as this. Our retarded tops are too busy being fake Chinese, working, being cocky and all that stuff so you can return to your massblooding (which funnily enough only Aeterna gets accused of this time), and fakerumour spreading business to ensure your own survival without lifting a finger. And goodluck to Faffie as you guys deserve the Hall of Fame for a change too as version after version you guys do all the heavy lifting.
Rosegarden at 06:23:08 on 04/01:
uhm we got attacked by all those as a hail mary attempt from the rest of the fams. The outcome of it says it all :) if we had not been blooded to half of omerta, they would not have had to suicide on us like that.
Fenrir, yes i know your gamestyle, and i have always recepted faffie for it, it has ALWAYS given the rest of us some very good versions, the problem is, when you deside that you dont wanna do the work, and go up against the strong site, then this is what we get. I do know that it is a lot to ask for, but hey, a girl can dream. :)
Johnx at 20:15:13 on 03/01:
The actions made by the other fams in the game showed exactly why such blooding is needed. In A Christmas Carol war we got shot by 255ish brug, only reason we survived was because we managed to act first with the help of our bloods. We were against the odds even tho you call our blooding gay, if we hadn't blooded the fams we blooded, we would still have been gangbanged by all those fams, only due to our size. Don't you dare put the blame only on us :)
Anonymous at 20:08:23 on 03/01:
You blooded to Aeterna is one thing. The FUCKED UP part is Aeterna blooding Marazzino, Anarchy, Ferrante, Empire + you AND having Lusa as asone. Seriously... Aeterna destroyed the game with blooding all those powerhouses.
Fenrir at 19:48:32 on 03/01:
We havent delivered any statements during this version, so i'd like to write a few words down here at the end.
Everybody knows our playstyle, we play aggressively and shoot when given opportunity. This version we had some really great rankers and secured us some excellent spots at the start. We had no intention of staying active during christmas, so pretty early it was decided that we'd do what we could in order to bring the version to a close before that time. Due to our pool of funds(OP according to some, i agree) we had the possibility to attempt exactly that. Tho we didnt think we'd succeed. If we had been after any stars we'd have stopped shooting the 17th, in "Christmas Carol" when Aeterna/Lusa was shot by several fams, but that didnt feel right to us, so we continued shooting at 4-5 different fams(Indel, Prov+, Levi, Krays) even though this ment Aeterna didnt have any threats after that war, while we had Marazzino & Ferrante/Empire as possible threats + some other fams. Still we helped our bloods even though it werent in our advantage, hall of fame has never interested us, we like shooting, the only aspect in the game thats still fun! After that war we started obaying, and lower/rebirth members sold bullets to higher ranked accs via obay to get ready to revenge our bloods Anarchy the night after, hitting them clear with only Anarchy bloods, purely a revenge act to respect our bloods who died 2-3days earlier. At that point most of our members had less than 60k bullets, luckily we had some funds left, and Gambino generously lent us some. We knew we would get shot, so we started obaying AGAIN. This brought alot of accs up to 60-120k and a few to 180k - Some also sold DCs to make the numbers go up. So the 19th(third consecutive warnight) Capi/Empire/Ferrante/Larocca came at us, and from the start the main target for us was to use our bullets on the threats they had accountwise. So we only targetted strong accs, had some lucky and some expected BFs. Even though the fams went down i still expect around 50brugs survived due to us not having capacity to finish them and they also seeked refuge in a common blood. At this point the version was over for us, fams alive were all our bloods.
An agreement was made by us to finish version together since Gambino/Alcatraz had helped AL during the course of the version, considering they were very close to us(Faffie) and shot in all our wars together with us. Unfortunately it didnt end that way, and im not happy about it. Maybe it would be different if we had actually been around, but 2weeks+ of no shooting is boring, and at some point it almost seemed a given it would happen, and it did 3 days before reset. Closely before christmas Gambino asked us if we really wanted to be #1 and receive a mention in hall of fame, we responded no, that we wanted us all to finish it together and we did everything we could to make that happen. And to be fair, we also thought it would.
Then ive seen alot of QQing about our bloodship with Aeterna. Last 3-4 versions we've shot eachother and in the end no one has benefitted from it. Since a designated 3rd-4th "side" has been ready to kill the "winner". If we hadnt blooded Aeterna, we would have been forced to plan against them from the start, knowing they'd done exactly the same, since we both considered eachother the biggest threat. In other words repeating a cycle we were pretty tired of. Eitherways we had been talking for 2versions thinking about blooding while having generally high thoughts about eachother. I cant say i expected AL to be as big as they were, but that didnt change anything for us, as a countermeasure we said no to some fams we have great respect for, simply cause ALs size ment that it would be rather cowardly of us blooding an extra set of capable fams, even tho it ment extra danger for us.
Yes this version was quick, for alot boring - hardly our fault, we did what we could and no countermeasures was made. With this KA you cant let some fams grind KS for an eternity then simply shoot them with regular tactics. We had the quickest rankers and the most funds. Ive never understood why Poker Basement Detroit is 10% but i'll never let a family we aint connected to run it for a long period of time. Our members got to shoot alot, a huge part surviving through the whole version, and thats a first time for most of us. Personally ive been a top ranker(first page most of the time) every version since i came back to the game in 3.52, but this is the first time i reach over 100% brug on my first acc of the version.
Thanks to our bloods for this version.
We havent delivered any statements during this version, so i'd like to write a few words down here at the end.
Everybody knows our playstyle, we play aggressively and shoot when given opportunity. This version we had some really great rankers and secured us some excellent spots at the start. We had no intention of staying active during christmas, so pretty early it was decided that we'd do what we could in order to bring the version to a close before that time. Due to our pool of funds(OP according to some, i agree) we had the possibility to attempt exactly that. Tho we didnt think we'd succeed. If we had been after any stars we'd have stopped shooting the 17th, in "Christmas Carol" when Aeterna/Lusa was shot by several fams, but that didnt feel right to us, so we continued shooting at 4-5 different fams(Indel, Prov+, Levi, Krays) even though this ment Aeterna didnt have any threats after that war, while we had Marazzino & Ferrante/Empire as possible threats + some other fams. Still we helped our bloods even though it werent in our advantage, hall of fame has never interested us, we like shooting, the only aspect in the game thats still fun! After that war we started obaying, and lower/rebirth members sold bullets to higher ranked accs via obay to get ready to revenge our bloods Anarchy the night after, hitting them clear with only Anarchy bloods, purely a revenge act to respect our bloods who died 2-3days earlier. At that point most of our members had less than 60k bullets, luckily we had some funds left, and Gambino generously lent us some. We knew we would get shot, so we started obaying AGAIN. This brought alot of accs up to 60-120k and a few to 180k - Some also sold DCs to make the numbers go up. So the 19th(third consecutive warnight) Capi/Empire/Ferrante/Larocca came at us, and from the start the main target for us was to use our bullets on the threats they had accountwise. So we only targetted strong accs, had some lucky and some expected BFs. Even though the fams went down i still expect around 50brugs survived due to us not having capacity to finish them and they also seeked refuge in a common blood. At this point the version was over for us, fams alive were all our bloods.
An agreement was made by us to finish version together since Gambino/Alcatraz had helped AL during the course of the version, considering they were very close to us(Faffie) and shot in all our wars together with us. Unfortunately it didnt end that way, and im not happy about it. Maybe it would be different if we had actually been around, but 2weeks+ of no shooting is boring, and at some point it almost seemed a given it would happen, and it did 3 days before reset. Closely before christmas Gambino asked us if we really wanted to be #1 and receive a mention in hall of fame, we responded no, that we wanted us all to finish it together and we did everything we could to make that happen. And to be fair, we also thought it would.
Then ive seen alot of QQing about our bloodship with Aeterna. Last 3-4 versions we've shot eachother and in the end no one has benefitted from it. Since a designated 3rd-4th "side" has been ready to kill the "winner". If we hadnt blooded Aeterna, we would have been forced to plan against them from the start, knowing they'd done exactly the same, since we both considered eachother the biggest threat. In other words repeating a cycle we were pretty tired of. Eitherways we had been talking for 2versions thinking about blooding while having generally high thoughts about eachother. I cant say i expected AL to be as big as they were, but that didnt change anything for us, as a countermeasure we said no to some fams we have great respect for, simply cause ALs size ment that it would be rather cowardly of us blooding an extra set of capable fams, even tho it ment extra danger for us.
Yes this version was quick, for alot boring - hardly our fault, we did what we could and no countermeasures was made. With this KA you cant let some fams grind KS for an eternity then simply shoot them with regular tactics. We had the quickest rankers and the most funds. Ive never understood why Poker Basement Detroit is 10% but i'll never let a family we aint connected to run it for a long period of time. Our members got to shoot alot, a huge part surviving through the whole version, and thats a first time for most of us. Personally ive been a top ranker(first page most of the time) every version since i came back to the game in 3.52, but this is the first time i reach over 100% brug on my first acc of the version.
Thanks to our bloods for this version.
You blooded to Aeterna is one thing. The FUCKED UP part is Aeterna blooding Marazzino, Anarchy, Ferrante, Empire + you AND having Lusa as asone. Seriously... Aeterna destroyed the game with blooding all those powerhouses.
uhm we got attacked by all those as a hail mary attempt from the rest of the fams. The outcome of it says it all :) if we had not been blooded to half of omerta, they would not have had to suicide on us like that.
Fenrir, yes i know your gamestyle, and i have always recepted faffie for it, it has ALWAYS given the rest of us some very good versions, the problem is, when you deside that you dont wanna do the work, and go up against the strong site, then this is what we get. I do know that it is a lot to ask for, but hey, a girl can dream. :)
A hail mary? At that point in the game only Justice and Ascension were gone, our blood Anarchy shot by our other blood Maraz. Our blood Faffie wanting to shoot Maraz and the other way around. A family like Indelicato blooded to Provenzano side, Gravano side and minor fams who just do whatever they're told like Traffi/Krays which is truly half of the game. Nobody complains about that since they have died, nobody would have complained about us if we had died. It's easy to complain now in retrospect but we blooded families like Ferrante and Anarchy after we saw what other sides were up to and why shouldn't we? We play this game for our own entertainment and trust me, being the first family shot version after version because of certain families' paranoia isn't fun and never will be fun.
Ofcourse a short version like this isn't that much more fun either but from our perspective it isn't all that different. Now the version is over after a little over a month but we've shot alot. Normally our version is over after 3 weeks while we haven't done shit because we're shot early on because we try to play the game our own way which normally consists of 4-5 trusted bloods regardless of their size. As you could see it didnt work in our favour because funnily enough the people who arent all that active and consist of mainly lackey players value their account more than people who are more active and therefore relied on Faffie to shoot us version after version so they could just lackey a little longer. Has Faffie won in the meantime? No they havent, because they shoot everyone thinks theyre a threat so everyone goes after them. It's actually pretty pathetic isn't it? The more you shoot the more you're loathed in a game that's all about shooting. Maybe people should rethink their priorities, if you want to survive a game without doing much of the shooting or work then play something else like... Call of Duty? The people there suck as much as the people here but hey atleast you respawn all the time and even when you just noob around like a turd atleast you win when other people do all the work.
And for Fenrir, it was a pleasure working with you guys for a change. I can understand the disappointment in how the version ended but I guess it was because of a lack of communication. Until the last war we never had any interest in breaking the agreement of finishing with 5 fams eventhough we were basically unrelated to Gambino/Alcatraz. But when a fam goes up and after a few days is made an 'asone' we saw it as a deal being broken as the deal was to finish with 5 fams, not 6. We all know that an asone nowadays doesnt mean that the family is the same. People keep saying Lusa and Aeterna are asone but this is in fact false too. We're close but if we were asone that meant we had a say in how Lusa managed their fam, we don't. Same as Lusa not having a say in how Aeterna was managed. In the same way Nwo which consisted of Illuminati players, I guess, wasn't really 'asone' with Gambino but for them a desperate attempt to survive until the end? Anyhow it's not really something that should be discussed here so the fine details can be talked about in private.
Also on a last note for the rest of the players, have fun next version as I highly doubt Aeterna will be around as big as this. Our retarded tops are too busy being fake Chinese, working, being cocky and all that stuff so you can return to your massblooding (which funnily enough only Aeterna gets accused of this time), and fakerumour spreading business to ensure your own survival without lifting a finger. And goodluck to Faffie as you guys deserve the Hall of Fame for a change too as version after version you guys do all the heavy lifting.
uhm, maybe i have missed some of version after version ... i was sure it only was the 2. version you were up. But hey, if you have to connect half the active accounts in a version to make sure you dont die, then i guess it makes sense...
Or you could perhaps try to use that thing what people have in their head, usually called 'a brain'. Last version's Theogony and this version's Aeterna wasnt exactly the same. And in the version before that most people were in Blackrose and guess what? Righelli's were a target of the opening war for versions too so yes it was version after version. Maybe you should stop crying about pointless shit. The game for us is never about not dying its for us to have fun. Do you think we have fun dying first everytime? No, we don't. Should we keep doing it to please the ignorant masses? No, we don't. So cry some more thinking that we played this way to safe our accounts as we didn't, we played this way so we could actually shoot something ourselves. If you aren't happy about it that's your problem, maybe you should try making a Capitalis and make a difference.
ouch, words hurt, and something something, you should put you name on it mr.x ...
well i guess you fixed your problem, gratz on that. If you cant beat them, blood half of omerta, and you get to walk true the version with 85% of your ppl still on their first account :D
Anyways... all i wanted to know was if anybody had fun this version, and it seems some did, so i guess that makes it a bit less sucky :)
Anonymous at 03:53:04 on 05/01:
Lucchese,Liggio,Pentagram,Liberta,Karadeniz
i heard those coming up in upcoming one is that real?
Lucchese,Liggio,Pentagram,Liberta,Karadeniz
i heard those coming up in upcoming one is that real?
lucchese yes. karadeniz was already up this version so dont know why their name is in there. for the rest i dont know xD