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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
bANJO at 11:51:20 on 30/12:
Not good, but you also have to look at what time of year it is. a lot of ppl in christmas/New year party mode atm. Not bothering with playing in a dead version.
Paris at 08:55:38 on 30/12:
Users online in the past 5 minutes: 30
Users online in the past 5 minutes: 30
Not good, but you also have to look at what time of year it is. a lot of ppl in christmas/New year party mode atm. Not bothering with playing in a dead version.
First what killed the game - Lackeys. And then they put that fucking awful hall of fame where version least no longer then month and half, after that shitty spots where everyone can get money out of it and make SLUGGS to fullfil their acc's with 700k+ bullets in really short time and most important thing which destroyed omerta is (allowed) cheating (for someone), dupeing, scripting, bug abusing and, ofc KS and unbalanced rebirthed/alive accounts.
That's what i meant actualy with that one sentence in my last post. :)
Anonymous (16:00:41 - 30-12)
Change your no votes to yes @rom. It ends this sunday!!
Anonymous (12:32:46 - 30-12)
anony at 11:22:19 on 30/12:
how to kill an economy when there is a money bug since day and age ?
gode at 20:28:38 on 29/12:
+1
Anonymous at 14:23:59 on 29/12:
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
+1
how to kill an economy when there is a money bug since day and age ?
Well it seems you know about a bug, then why don't you report the bug? Or are you throwing around accusations based on nothing?
Anonymous (12:19:26 - 30-12)
Lol gambino asone-ing now too, afraid you wont finish the version alone?
Paris at 08:55:38 on 30/12:
Users online in the past 5 minutes: 30
Users online in the past 5 minutes: 30
Not good, but you also have to look at what time of year it is. a lot of ppl in christmas/New year party mode atm. Not bothering with playing in a dead version.
anony (11:22:19 - 30-12)
gode at 20:28:38 on 29/12:
+1
Anonymous at 14:23:59 on 29/12:
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
+1
how to kill an economy when there is a money bug since day and age ?
ElMariachi` (01:11:04 - 30-12)
gode at 20:28:38 on 29/12:
+1
Anonymous at 14:23:59 on 29/12:
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
+1
Even though I do agree the game economy is inbalanced, the KA is awfull for reranking and the current spot system isn't working the way it was intended, it's still the players that cause these fast versions: huge all in one fams, even bigger blood relationships and lets not forget the as one crap. All this together leads to two big wars and the game is done simply cause everyone is involved. Every version these days starts with 2 sides, if lucky 3 and that's about it, the rest of the fams that get up are free KS and they prolly end up chosing a side next version just to be involved at least in one war instead of ending up with the fishes without a fight ...
Anonymous at 14:23:59 on 29/12:
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
+1
32r7hfuAKGHSFJK (20:26:27 - 29-12)
art at 17:50:43 on 29/12:
It depends on the size of the wallet. A bird has the smallest brain, but it can think better then you i guess. xD
Anonymous at 16:41:04 on 29/12:
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
art at 21:45:42 on 28/12:
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
It depends on the size of the wallet. A bird has the smallest brain, but it can think better then you i guess. xD
*than
You're most welcome.
Anonymous at 16:41:04 on 29/12:
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
art at 21:45:42 on 28/12:
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
It depends on the size of the wallet. A bird has the smallest brain, but it can think better then you i guess. xD
Anonymous at 16:47:06 on 29/12:
50 lc's 2%ks x 10k bullets is 500k bullets and you have 100ks newbie
Anonymous at 16:41:04 on 29/12:
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
art at 21:45:42 on 28/12:
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
50 lc's 2%ks x 10k bullets is 500k bullets and you have 100ks newbie
Sorry, but i think you are newbie or never shoot a lc :) You cant take with 10k a LC with a brug acc. YOu have to spent 15k or 20k. Try it. Or the acc you shoot has 0 def.
So you need 15k x 50 = 750K - 1.000K Bullets. I think you wrote only to have written. xD
Anonymous (16:47:06 - 29-12)
Anonymous at 16:41:04 on 29/12:
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
art at 21:45:42 on 28/12:
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
50 lc's 2%ks x 10k bullets is 500k bullets and you have 100ks newbie
Anonymous (16:41:04 - 29-12)
art at 21:45:42 on 28/12:
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
If only You had a brain the size of that wallet! Many problems would be solved for You personally :D
Anonymous (14:23:59 - 29-12)
The game just needs to get less money in it. Get less money in the economy so you can't kill all families in the game within 2 weeks.
Anonymous (11:21:18 - 29-12)
Offcourse stronger accounts should have an edge on weaker accounts, nobody should be unkillable BUT :
even if you are a strong player you can die from stupid things like
*loosing your bulletproof vest in backfire and then getting shot a few minutes later. Why the heck do we lose so much defense points from attackiing someone? Or atleast lower the timers.
*blood timers that work against you. WHY is it possible that MY account, that I worked so hard on, can be killed by virtually any noob because some stupid outdated blood timer(it hasnt been tweaked for years) simply doesnt allow me to buy back blood?
In my opinion it should be possible to always have 100 blood before an attempt because if you are not at full health you are a dead man walking. That should not be possible.
even if you are a strong player you can die from stupid things like
*loosing your bulletproof vest in backfire and then getting shot a few minutes later. Why the heck do we lose so much defense points from attackiing someone? Or atleast lower the timers.
*blood timers that work against you. WHY is it possible that MY account, that I worked so hard on, can be killed by virtually any noob because some stupid outdated blood timer(it hasnt been tweaked for years) simply doesnt allow me to buy back blood?
In my opinion it should be possible to always have 100 blood before an attempt because if you are not at full health you are a dead man walking. That should not be possible.
gsbaba at 21:37:30 on 28/12:
In my opinion admins are happy with 1month-versions. Whatever we tell they ll not do any shit.They are gaining much money than before. because whatever happens, this game will always have 400 people.If we want to change sths for this game, all familys should agree on sths like 2 vers ago there were 1 month ceasefire cuz of a shity ks and then what they did? they re-wrote the ks in the middle of the version.
Anonymous at 21:24:39 on 28/12:
It is "insufficient", well let's say "imbalanced", because the players make it that way. Just try to get most of your stuff done in different cities, that would lead to more balanced out spots.
I just took a look at the Casino Profits for the Roullie for NY and Detroit. It was kinda depressing to see how big the max profits were apart. Feel free to check it out yourself. Unfortunately OB is missing that feature for other spots like Poker I think. Those results would probably be even more depressing.
I don't want to know why you spend 2.400 to 3.600 Euros a year on that game. But it already gives you an advantage over non-buyers. You generate extra cash from those DCs on obay, which you can spend on extra bullets and you don't have to spend extra ingame cash on additional DCs. If you still can't compete with "free-to-play" accounts, then you are doing something wrong. So why and what additional Bonus do you want? And well, it would further undermine Brando's sacred free-to-play policy (with lackeys it ended being free to play, but that's another discussion).
Bringing Rob back won't solve the deeper problems the game is having, but that might be a starting point for a discussion. BG Training for a DC? Nope, again, as a power Donor you already have an edge, and the Free-to-play is already undermined enough.
I see practical problems with that. The problem is, nobody is ever leaving Detroit nowadays. So what happens, when somebody went offline in Detroit, logs in and the City has already reached its Capacity for online players? Will you miracle one player to another City?
No, that's a problem the families have to solve, by exercising more control over their players. Don't give me that players do what they want, families can't do anything about it stuff. If some fam top starts this song, he should step down as fam top, or they should simply disband their family. It's 3 clicks to leave a city (travel-city-confirm) and you are telling me, you want admins to add a gimmick, because players would otherwise not leave Detroit?
art at 21:02:39 on 28/12:
I judge the following points with you:
1. City distribution is insufficient. Therefore the benefit spots are uneven.
Anonymous at 20:24:15 on 28/12:
Some valid points, some less valid.
Let's start with the less valid.
If it was so easy to kill strong accounts with one shot, why is ariella still alive then? Again, some stuff Art and his anonymous friend are giving out as truths are simply not fact based. Either there are close immortal accounts like Smul last version and Ariella this version, or any account can get killed by a some random weak account. You can't have it both ways. Can you?
Partly true. The shrinking playerbase is related to lackeys and to shorter versions.
Shorter versoins became a reality with that Gaypact formed around Gravano-Liberta-Conflict-Vaffanculo and some other fams. After that it was one war and it's over.
Not particularly enjoyable.
Now that faggotry is gone, the fam spots had a huge impact on the game, probably bigger than KCode anticipated. It brought more money to the game, more money means more bullets, means faster wars, itself not a problem, but the cash from the spots is too uneven distributed, own the Detroit spots and you have enough cash to steamroll your way though the version.
To a very big degree that's also the fault of the players doing everything in Detroit (I am repeating that point).
Maybe, just maybe your accounts were not the strong compared to the accounts that shot you, just a crazy thought, I know it's unthinkable somebody created a stronger account.
Anyway, another problem of the short versions is: it is close to impossible/pointless to rerank. Your rebirth accounts can't do shite.
art at 19:13:54 on 28/12:
yes exactly.
Anonymous at 13:49:35 on 28/12:
Exactly. Times have changed, people are NOT prepared to lose a months work within a split-second and then restart all over again.
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
A version should be long-term and the only way to get that is either a huge playerbase( not gonna happen anymore) or accounts that really are hard to kill. It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
art at 20:54:34 on 27/12:
I think the KA must be changed. 5 % KS for Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
So we have to ask us what we want. The most of us spent a lot of real money in this game and want play as long as we can. Wars are a part of this game. But to die after been first shot with brug 100 % and a KS of 30 % is very hard. So most of us don´t want rerank again, because they take it easy and vote with Yes on ROM to get a complete new chance. But this isn´t a way or not the best way.
The worth of a gangster depends on rp, ks and fam worth. In V2.0 you could buy 400 Bullets/h. A high ranked brug had got in average 200-300K Bullets. To kill a Brug or GF/FL you needed 60K bulelts, sometimes 2 shoots. Now you can buy 1000 Bullets / h and a good brug has got in average 500-900K Bullets. You can kill a brug with 60K. Sometimes even 2 shoots. There is anything wrong. Why die a Brug account with first shoot ? It means the more bullets makes no difference in consideration to older versions. More Money and more bullets means that the inflation rate raises up and no one has actually something of it. The holding of much bullets (bullets pos) shall give a gangster more worth. I miss this in the last two versions. I see Brugs dieing with first shoots and holding over 600k Bullets. There is something wrong. Please suggerate all that this have to be changed. So gangsters with more bullets are stronger then a suicider with less bullets on the same rank.
If you need to kill a brug account you shall need more bullets like 60k x 3. So the game will be more funny and your hard work and spending of a lot money wont be take off in a minute. This is the reason, why the most player not play again or rerank. The surviving rate must be elevated. I cant spent 300-500 EUR per month in an account.
If Omerta will survive and create longer versions please change at first the KA.
Thanks all who read this.
Best Regards
-art-
I think the KA must be changed. 5 % KS for Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
So we have to ask us what we want. The most of us spent a lot of real money in this game and want play as long as we can. Wars are a part of this game. But to die after been first shot with brug 100 % and a KS of 30 % is very hard. So most of us don´t want rerank again, because they take it easy and vote with Yes on ROM to get a complete new chance. But this isn´t a way or not the best way.
The worth of a gangster depends on rp, ks and fam worth. In V2.0 you could buy 400 Bullets/h. A high ranked brug had got in average 200-300K Bullets. To kill a Brug or GF/FL you needed 60K bulelts, sometimes 2 shoots. Now you can buy 1000 Bullets / h and a good brug has got in average 500-900K Bullets. You can kill a brug with 60K. Sometimes even 2 shoots. There is anything wrong. Why die a Brug account with first shoot ? It means the more bullets makes no difference in consideration to older versions. More Money and more bullets means that the inflation rate raises up and no one has actually something of it. The holding of much bullets (bullets pos) shall give a gangster more worth. I miss this in the last two versions. I see Brugs dieing with first shoots and holding over 600k Bullets. There is something wrong. Please suggerate all that this have to be changed. So gangsters with more bullets are stronger then a suicider with less bullets on the same rank.
If you need to kill a brug account you shall need more bullets like 60k x 3. So the game will be more funny and your hard work and spending of a lot money wont be take off in a minute. This is the reason, why the most player not play again or rerank. The surviving rate must be elevated. I cant spent 300-500 EUR per month in an account.
If Omerta will survive and create longer versions please change at first the KA.
Thanks all who read this.
Best Regards
-art-
Exactly. Times have changed, people are NOT prepared to lose a months work within a split-second and then restart all over again.
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
A version should be long-term and the only way to get that is either a huge playerbase( not gonna happen anymore) or accounts that really are hard to kill. It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
yes exactly.
Some valid points, some less valid.
Let's start with the less valid.
It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
If it was so easy to kill strong accounts with one shot, why is ariella still alive then? Again, some stuff Art and his anonymous friend are giving out as truths are simply not fact based. Either there are close immortal accounts like Smul last version and Ariella this version, or any account can get killed by a some random weak account. You can't have it both ways. Can you?
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
Partly true. The shrinking playerbase is related to lackeys and to shorter versions.
Shorter versoins became a reality with that Gaypact formed around Gravano-Liberta-Conflict-Vaffanculo and some other fams. After that it was one war and it's over.
Not particularly enjoyable.
Now that faggotry is gone, the fam spots had a huge impact on the game, probably bigger than KCode anticipated. It brought more money to the game, more money means more bullets, means faster wars, itself not a problem, but the cash from the spots is too uneven distributed, own the Detroit spots and you have enough cash to steamroll your way though the version.
To a very big degree that's also the fault of the players doing everything in Detroit (I am repeating that point).
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
Maybe, just maybe your accounts were not the strong compared to the accounts that shot you, just a crazy thought, I know it's unthinkable somebody created a stronger account.
Anyway, another problem of the short versions is: it is close to impossible/pointless to rerank. Your rebirth accounts can't do shite.
I judge the following points with you:
1. City distribution is insufficient. Therefore the benefit spots are uneven.
It is "insufficient", well let's say "imbalanced", because the players make it that way. Just try to get most of your stuff done in different cities, that would lead to more balanced out spots.
I just took a look at the Casino Profits for the Roullie for NY and Detroit. It was kinda depressing to see how big the max profits were apart. Feel free to check it out yourself. Unfortunately OB is missing that feature for other spots like Poker I think. Those results would probably be even more depressing.
2. The surviving of strong accounts is rp-based. We saw this with smuls acc last vers and Ariella this vers. The KS plays a subordinated role at all. But its not enforceable that lower ranked players die in 1 shoot if a higher ranked (5-10 posessions better) player shoot them. With the Villa sitauation are Offline users preferred then Online users. Ive got my own statistics. This must be changed. The RP. the amount of Bullets, the KS, the JS and your Attempts makes you strong. I think donators (Power donator like me, spending ca. 200-300 EUR / Month) shall be got a special worth. Why not ? Whats the reason against ?
I don't want to know why you spend 2.400 to 3.600 Euros a year on that game. But it already gives you an advantage over non-buyers. You generate extra cash from those DCs on obay, which you can spend on extra bullets and you don't have to spend extra ingame cash on additional DCs. If you still can't compete with "free-to-play" accounts, then you are doing something wrong. So why and what additional Bonus do you want? And well, it would further undermine Brando's sacred free-to-play policy (with lackeys it ended being free to play, but that's another discussion).
3.Alternative Rob should be back but with the difference you can train it with DCS. 10 DCS for Level 10 for example. Otherwise buy everything or training BGS with game money makes you a gambler to make more money.
Bringing Rob back won't solve the deeper problems the game is having, but that might be a starting point for a discussion. BG Training for a DC? Nope, again, as a power Donor you already have an edge, and the Free-to-play is already undermined enough.
4. City limits for Online users. Every city should have a capacity for online users. It would helps to distribute the online players. This means only the boss not for the Lackeys. So B/N wont be disturbed.
I see practical problems with that. The problem is, nobody is ever leaving Detroit nowadays. So what happens, when somebody went offline in Detroit, logs in and the City has already reached its Capacity for online players? Will you miracle one player to another City?
No, that's a problem the families have to solve, by exercising more control over their players. Don't give me that players do what they want, families can't do anything about it stuff. If some fam top starts this song, he should step down as fam top, or they should simply disband their family. It's 3 clicks to leave a city (travel-city-confirm) and you are telling me, you want admins to add a gimmick, because players would otherwise not leave Detroit?
In my opinion admins are happy with 1month-versions. Whatever we tell they ll not do any shit.They are gaining much money than before. because whatever happens, this game will always have 400 people.If we want to change sths for this game, all familys should agree on sths like 2 vers ago there were 1 month ceasefire cuz of a shity ks and then what they did? they re-wrote the ks in the middle of the version.
Yes ofc, admins are not against you. You have only to tell and explain it. I miss the Usergroup. The Crew is currently far from happen. Maybe it helps to collect a list of suggestions and present it to the admins. A mirc channel maybe helps.
Anonymous at 21:24:39 on 28/12:
It is "insufficient", well let's say "imbalanced", because the players make it that way. Just try to get most of your stuff done in different cities, that would lead to more balanced out spots.
I just took a look at the Casino Profits for the Roullie for NY and Detroit. It was kinda depressing to see how big the max profits were apart. Feel free to check it out yourself. Unfortunately OB is missing that feature for other spots like Poker I think. Those results would probably be even more depressing.
I don't want to know why you spend 2.400 to 3.600 Euros a year on that game. But it already gives you an advantage over non-buyers. You generate extra cash from those DCs on obay, which you can spend on extra bullets and you don't have to spend extra ingame cash on additional DCs. If you still can't compete with "free-to-play" accounts, then you are doing something wrong. So why and what additional Bonus do you want? And well, it would further undermine Brando's sacred free-to-play policy (with lackeys it ended being free to play, but that's another discussion).
Bringing Rob back won't solve the deeper problems the game is having, but that might be a starting point for a discussion. BG Training for a DC? Nope, again, as a power Donor you already have an edge, and the Free-to-play is already undermined enough.
I see practical problems with that. The problem is, nobody is ever leaving Detroit nowadays. So what happens, when somebody went offline in Detroit, logs in and the City has already reached its Capacity for online players? Will you miracle one player to another City?
No, that's a problem the families have to solve, by exercising more control over their players. Don't give me that players do what they want, families can't do anything about it stuff. If some fam top starts this song, he should step down as fam top, or they should simply disband their family. It's 3 clicks to leave a city (travel-city-confirm) and you are telling me, you want admins to add a gimmick, because players would otherwise not leave Detroit?
art at 21:02:39 on 28/12:
I judge the following points with you:
1. City distribution is insufficient. Therefore the benefit spots are uneven.
Anonymous at 20:24:15 on 28/12:
Some valid points, some less valid.
Let's start with the less valid.
If it was so easy to kill strong accounts with one shot, why is ariella still alive then? Again, some stuff Art and his anonymous friend are giving out as truths are simply not fact based. Either there are close immortal accounts like Smul last version and Ariella this version, or any account can get killed by a some random weak account. You can't have it both ways. Can you?
Partly true. The shrinking playerbase is related to lackeys and to shorter versions.
Shorter versoins became a reality with that Gaypact formed around Gravano-Liberta-Conflict-Vaffanculo and some other fams. After that it was one war and it's over.
Not particularly enjoyable.
Now that faggotry is gone, the fam spots had a huge impact on the game, probably bigger than KCode anticipated. It brought more money to the game, more money means more bullets, means faster wars, itself not a problem, but the cash from the spots is too uneven distributed, own the Detroit spots and you have enough cash to steamroll your way though the version.
To a very big degree that's also the fault of the players doing everything in Detroit (I am repeating that point).
Maybe, just maybe your accounts were not the strong compared to the accounts that shot you, just a crazy thought, I know it's unthinkable somebody created a stronger account.
Anyway, another problem of the short versions is: it is close to impossible/pointless to rerank. Your rebirth accounts can't do shite.
art at 19:13:54 on 28/12:
yes exactly.
Anonymous at 13:49:35 on 28/12:
Exactly. Times have changed, people are NOT prepared to lose a months work within a split-second and then restart all over again.
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
A version should be long-term and the only way to get that is either a huge playerbase( not gonna happen anymore) or accounts that really are hard to kill. It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
art at 20:54:34 on 27/12:
I think the KA must be changed. 5 % KS for Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
So we have to ask us what we want. The most of us spent a lot of real money in this game and want play as long as we can. Wars are a part of this game. But to die after been first shot with brug 100 % and a KS of 30 % is very hard. So most of us don´t want rerank again, because they take it easy and vote with Yes on ROM to get a complete new chance. But this isn´t a way or not the best way.
The worth of a gangster depends on rp, ks and fam worth. In V2.0 you could buy 400 Bullets/h. A high ranked brug had got in average 200-300K Bullets. To kill a Brug or GF/FL you needed 60K bulelts, sometimes 2 shoots. Now you can buy 1000 Bullets / h and a good brug has got in average 500-900K Bullets. You can kill a brug with 60K. Sometimes even 2 shoots. There is anything wrong. Why die a Brug account with first shoot ? It means the more bullets makes no difference in consideration to older versions. More Money and more bullets means that the inflation rate raises up and no one has actually something of it. The holding of much bullets (bullets pos) shall give a gangster more worth. I miss this in the last two versions. I see Brugs dieing with first shoots and holding over 600k Bullets. There is something wrong. Please suggerate all that this have to be changed. So gangsters with more bullets are stronger then a suicider with less bullets on the same rank.
If you need to kill a brug account you shall need more bullets like 60k x 3. So the game will be more funny and your hard work and spending of a lot money wont be take off in a minute. This is the reason, why the most player not play again or rerank. The surviving rate must be elevated. I cant spent 300-500 EUR per month in an account.
If Omerta will survive and create longer versions please change at first the KA.
Thanks all who read this.
Best Regards
-art-
I think the KA must be changed. 5 % KS for Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
So we have to ask us what we want. The most of us spent a lot of real money in this game and want play as long as we can. Wars are a part of this game. But to die after been first shot with brug 100 % and a KS of 30 % is very hard. So most of us don´t want rerank again, because they take it easy and vote with Yes on ROM to get a complete new chance. But this isn´t a way or not the best way.
The worth of a gangster depends on rp, ks and fam worth. In V2.0 you could buy 400 Bullets/h. A high ranked brug had got in average 200-300K Bullets. To kill a Brug or GF/FL you needed 60K bulelts, sometimes 2 shoots. Now you can buy 1000 Bullets / h and a good brug has got in average 500-900K Bullets. You can kill a brug with 60K. Sometimes even 2 shoots. There is anything wrong. Why die a Brug account with first shoot ? It means the more bullets makes no difference in consideration to older versions. More Money and more bullets means that the inflation rate raises up and no one has actually something of it. The holding of much bullets (bullets pos) shall give a gangster more worth. I miss this in the last two versions. I see Brugs dieing with first shoots and holding over 600k Bullets. There is something wrong. Please suggerate all that this have to be changed. So gangsters with more bullets are stronger then a suicider with less bullets on the same rank.
If you need to kill a brug account you shall need more bullets like 60k x 3. So the game will be more funny and your hard work and spending of a lot money wont be take off in a minute. This is the reason, why the most player not play again or rerank. The surviving rate must be elevated. I cant spent 300-500 EUR per month in an account.
If Omerta will survive and create longer versions please change at first the KA.
Thanks all who read this.
Best Regards
-art-
Exactly. Times have changed, people are NOT prepared to lose a months work within a split-second and then restart all over again.
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
A version should be long-term and the only way to get that is either a huge playerbase( not gonna happen anymore) or accounts that really are hard to kill. It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
yes exactly.
Some valid points, some less valid.
Let's start with the less valid.
It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
If it was so easy to kill strong accounts with one shot, why is ariella still alive then? Again, some stuff Art and his anonymous friend are giving out as truths are simply not fact based. Either there are close immortal accounts like Smul last version and Ariella this version, or any account can get killed by a some random weak account. You can't have it both ways. Can you?
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
Partly true. The shrinking playerbase is related to lackeys and to shorter versions.
Shorter versoins became a reality with that Gaypact formed around Gravano-Liberta-Conflict-Vaffanculo and some other fams. After that it was one war and it's over.
Not particularly enjoyable.
Now that faggotry is gone, the fam spots had a huge impact on the game, probably bigger than KCode anticipated. It brought more money to the game, more money means more bullets, means faster wars, itself not a problem, but the cash from the spots is too uneven distributed, own the Detroit spots and you have enough cash to steamroll your way though the version.
To a very big degree that's also the fault of the players doing everything in Detroit (I am repeating that point).
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
Maybe, just maybe your accounts were not the strong compared to the accounts that shot you, just a crazy thought, I know it's unthinkable somebody created a stronger account.
Anyway, another problem of the short versions is: it is close to impossible/pointless to rerank. Your rebirth accounts can't do shite.
I judge the following points with you:
1. City distribution is insufficient. Therefore the benefit spots are uneven.
It is "insufficient", well let's say "imbalanced", because the players make it that way. Just try to get most of your stuff done in different cities, that would lead to more balanced out spots.
I just took a look at the Casino Profits for the Roullie for NY and Detroit. It was kinda depressing to see how big the max profits were apart. Feel free to check it out yourself. Unfortunately OB is missing that feature for other spots like Poker I think. Those results would probably be even more depressing.
2. The surviving of strong accounts is rp-based. We saw this with smuls acc last vers and Ariella this vers. The KS plays a subordinated role at all. But its not enforceable that lower ranked players die in 1 shoot if a higher ranked (5-10 posessions better) player shoot them. With the Villa sitauation are Offline users preferred then Online users. Ive got my own statistics. This must be changed. The RP. the amount of Bullets, the KS, the JS and your Attempts makes you strong. I think donators (Power donator like me, spending ca. 200-300 EUR / Month) shall be got a special worth. Why not ? Whats the reason against ?
I don't want to know why you spend 2.400 to 3.600 Euros a year on that game. But it already gives you an advantage over non-buyers. You generate extra cash from those DCs on obay, which you can spend on extra bullets and you don't have to spend extra ingame cash on additional DCs. If you still can't compete with "free-to-play" accounts, then you are doing something wrong. So why and what additional Bonus do you want? And well, it would further undermine Brando's sacred free-to-play policy (with lackeys it ended being free to play, but that's another discussion).
3.Alternative Rob should be back but with the difference you can train it with DCS. 10 DCS for Level 10 for example. Otherwise buy everything or training BGS with game money makes you a gambler to make more money.
Bringing Rob back won't solve the deeper problems the game is having, but that might be a starting point for a discussion. BG Training for a DC? Nope, again, as a power Donor you already have an edge, and the Free-to-play is already undermined enough.
4. City limits for Online users. Every city should have a capacity for online users. It would helps to distribute the online players. This means only the boss not for the Lackeys. So B/N wont be disturbed.
I see practical problems with that. The problem is, nobody is ever leaving Detroit nowadays. So what happens, when somebody went offline in Detroit, logs in and the City has already reached its Capacity for online players? Will you miracle one player to another City?
No, that's a problem the families have to solve, by exercising more control over their players. Don't give me that players do what they want, families can't do anything about it stuff. If some fam top starts this song, he should step down as fam top, or they should simply disband their family. It's 3 clicks to leave a city (travel-city-confirm) and you are telling me, you want admins to add a gimmick, because players would otherwise not leave Detroit?
In my opinion admins are happy with 1month-versions. Whatever we tell they ll not do any shit.They are gaining more money than before. because whatever happens, this game will always have 400 people.If we want to change sths for this game, all familys should agree on sths like 2 vers ago there were 1 month ceasefire cuz of a shity ka and then what they did? they re-wrote the ks in the middle of the version.Ks must be removed for game. that makes bigger fams to shoot small ones and this make versions more smaller. there is also a User Suggestion Management System in the game. its always in the game but i couldnt see any change from there and the most funny and pathetic part of this system is that only dc+ people can suggest sths
Anonymous (21:24:39 - 28-12)
art at 21:02:39 on 28/12:
I judge the following points with you:
1. City distribution is insufficient. Therefore the benefit spots are uneven.
Anonymous at 20:24:15 on 28/12:
Some valid points, some less valid.
Let's start with the less valid.
If it was so easy to kill strong accounts with one shot, why is ariella still alive then? Again, some stuff Art and his anonymous friend are giving out as truths are simply not fact based. Either there are close immortal accounts like Smul last version and Ariella this version, or any account can get killed by a some random weak account. You can't have it both ways. Can you?
Partly true. The shrinking playerbase is related to lackeys and to shorter versions.
Shorter versoins became a reality with that Gaypact formed around Gravano-Liberta-Conflict-Vaffanculo and some other fams. After that it was one war and it's over.
Not particularly enjoyable.
Now that faggotry is gone, the fam spots had a huge impact on the game, probably bigger than KCode anticipated. It brought more money to the game, more money means more bullets, means faster wars, itself not a problem, but the cash from the spots is too uneven distributed, own the Detroit spots and you have enough cash to steamroll your way though the version.
To a very big degree that's also the fault of the players doing everything in Detroit (I am repeating that point).
Maybe, just maybe your accounts were not the strong compared to the accounts that shot you, just a crazy thought, I know it's unthinkable somebody created a stronger account.
Anyway, another problem of the short versions is: it is close to impossible/pointless to rerank. Your rebirth accounts can't do shite.
art at 19:13:54 on 28/12:
yes exactly.
Anonymous at 13:49:35 on 28/12:
Exactly. Times have changed, people are NOT prepared to lose a months work within a split-second and then restart all over again.
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
A version should be long-term and the only way to get that is either a huge playerbase( not gonna happen anymore) or accounts that really are hard to kill. It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
art at 20:54:34 on 27/12:
I think the KA must be changed. 5 % KS for Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
So we have to ask us what we want. The most of us spent a lot of real money in this game and want play as long as we can. Wars are a part of this game. But to die after been first shot with brug 100 % and a KS of 30 % is very hard. So most of us don´t want rerank again, because they take it easy and vote with Yes on ROM to get a complete new chance. But this isn´t a way or not the best way.
The worth of a gangster depends on rp, ks and fam worth. In V2.0 you could buy 400 Bullets/h. A high ranked brug had got in average 200-300K Bullets. To kill a Brug or GF/FL you needed 60K bulelts, sometimes 2 shoots. Now you can buy 1000 Bullets / h and a good brug has got in average 500-900K Bullets. You can kill a brug with 60K. Sometimes even 2 shoots. There is anything wrong. Why die a Brug account with first shoot ? It means the more bullets makes no difference in consideration to older versions. More Money and more bullets means that the inflation rate raises up and no one has actually something of it. The holding of much bullets (bullets pos) shall give a gangster more worth. I miss this in the last two versions. I see Brugs dieing with first shoots and holding over 600k Bullets. There is something wrong. Please suggerate all that this have to be changed. So gangsters with more bullets are stronger then a suicider with less bullets on the same rank.
If you need to kill a brug account you shall need more bullets like 60k x 3. So the game will be more funny and your hard work and spending of a lot money wont be take off in a minute. This is the reason, why the most player not play again or rerank. The surviving rate must be elevated. I cant spent 300-500 EUR per month in an account.
If Omerta will survive and create longer versions please change at first the KA.
Thanks all who read this.
Best Regards
-art-
I think the KA must be changed. 5 % KS for Killing Brug vs Brug is very less. You have to kill 20 Brugs which means you have to spend 1,2mio Bullets to get 100% KS. In money you have to spent min. 600-900 Mio. of Omerta Money. (Or 120 Donating Codes = 250-300 EUR) With the Risk to die in BF. You can see it from the other perspective like shoot on bottles to get KS. It makes the game cheaper.
So we have to ask us what we want. The most of us spent a lot of real money in this game and want play as long as we can. Wars are a part of this game. But to die after been first shot with brug 100 % and a KS of 30 % is very hard. So most of us don´t want rerank again, because they take it easy and vote with Yes on ROM to get a complete new chance. But this isn´t a way or not the best way.
The worth of a gangster depends on rp, ks and fam worth. In V2.0 you could buy 400 Bullets/h. A high ranked brug had got in average 200-300K Bullets. To kill a Brug or GF/FL you needed 60K bulelts, sometimes 2 shoots. Now you can buy 1000 Bullets / h and a good brug has got in average 500-900K Bullets. You can kill a brug with 60K. Sometimes even 2 shoots. There is anything wrong. Why die a Brug account with first shoot ? It means the more bullets makes no difference in consideration to older versions. More Money and more bullets means that the inflation rate raises up and no one has actually something of it. The holding of much bullets (bullets pos) shall give a gangster more worth. I miss this in the last two versions. I see Brugs dieing with first shoots and holding over 600k Bullets. There is something wrong. Please suggerate all that this have to be changed. So gangsters with more bullets are stronger then a suicider with less bullets on the same rank.
If you need to kill a brug account you shall need more bullets like 60k x 3. So the game will be more funny and your hard work and spending of a lot money wont be take off in a minute. This is the reason, why the most player not play again or rerank. The surviving rate must be elevated. I cant spent 300-500 EUR per month in an account.
If Omerta will survive and create longer versions please change at first the KA.
Thanks all who read this.
Best Regards
-art-
Exactly. Times have changed, people are NOT prepared to lose a months work within a split-second and then restart all over again.
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
A version should be long-term and the only way to get that is either a huge playerbase( not gonna happen anymore) or accounts that really are hard to kill. It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
yes exactly.
Some valid points, some less valid.
Let's start with the less valid.
It's stupid that you can get killed in 1 shot when you are 200% brug. Regardless whether you are shot by a strong account or not.
If it was so easy to kill strong accounts with one shot, why is ariella still alive then? Again, some stuff Art and his anonymous friend are giving out as truths are simply not fact based. Either there are close immortal accounts like Smul last version and Ariella this version, or any account can get killed by a some random weak account. You can't have it both ways. Can you?
It's no coincidence that since they removed Rob and LOTS more bullets were pumped into the game( thanks sluggs) the versions have become stupidly short and the playerbase shrinking.
Partly true. The shrinking playerbase is related to lackeys and to shorter versions.
Shorter versoins became a reality with that Gaypact formed around Gravano-Liberta-Conflict-Vaffanculo and some other fams. After that it was one war and it's over.
Not particularly enjoyable.
Now that faggotry is gone, the fam spots had a huge impact on the game, probably bigger than KCode anticipated. It brought more money to the game, more money means more bullets, means faster wars, itself not a problem, but the cash from the spots is too uneven distributed, own the Detroit spots and you have enough cash to steamroll your way though the version.
To a very big degree that's also the fault of the players doing everything in Detroit (I am repeating that point).
I for one will not bother with this game when I can get killed so easily
Maybe, just maybe your accounts were not the strong compared to the accounts that shot you, just a crazy thought, I know it's unthinkable somebody created a stronger account.
Anyway, another problem of the short versions is: it is close to impossible/pointless to rerank. Your rebirth accounts can't do shite.
I judge the following points with you:
1. City distribution is insufficient. Therefore the benefit spots are uneven.
It is "insufficient", well let's say "imbalanced", because the players make it that way. Just try to get most of your stuff done in different cities, that would lead to more balanced out spots.
I just took a look at the Casino Profits for the Roullie for NY and Detroit. It was kinda depressing to see how big the max profits were apart. Feel free to check it out yourself. Unfortunately OB is missing that feature for other spots like Poker I think. Those results would probably be even more depressing.
2. The surviving of strong accounts is rp-based. We saw this with smuls acc last vers and Ariella this vers. The KS plays a subordinated role at all. But its not enforceable that lower ranked players die in 1 shoot if a higher ranked (5-10 posessions better) player shoot them. With the Villa sitauation are Offline users preferred then Online users. Ive got my own statistics. This must be changed. The RP. the amount of Bullets, the KS, the JS and your Attempts makes you strong. I think donators (Power donator like me, spending ca. 200-300 EUR / Month) shall be got a special worth. Why not ? Whats the reason against ?
I don't want to know why you spend 2.400 to 3.600 Euros a year on that game. But it already gives you an advantage over non-buyers. You generate extra cash from those DCs on obay, which you can spend on extra bullets and you don't have to spend extra ingame cash on additional DCs. If you still can't compete with "free-to-play" accounts, then you are doing something wrong. So why and what additional Bonus do you want? And well, it would further undermine Brando's sacred free-to-play policy (with lackeys it ended being free to play, but that's another discussion).
3.Alternative Rob should be back but with the difference you can train it with DCS. 10 DCS for Level 10 for example. Otherwise buy everything or training BGS with game money makes you a gambler to make more money.
Bringing Rob back won't solve the deeper problems the game is having, but that might be a starting point for a discussion. BG Training for a DC? Nope, again, as a power Donor you already have an edge, and the Free-to-play is already undermined enough.
4. City limits for Online users. Every city should have a capacity for online users. It would helps to distribute the online players. This means only the boss not for the Lackeys. So B/N wont be disturbed.
I see practical problems with that. The problem is, nobody is ever leaving Detroit nowadays. So what happens, when somebody went offline in Detroit, logs in and the City has already reached its Capacity for online players? Will you miracle one player to another City?
No, that's a problem the families have to solve, by exercising more control over their players. Don't give me that players do what they want, families can't do anything about it stuff. If some fam top starts this song, he should step down as fam top, or they should simply disband their family. It's 3 clicks to leave a city (travel-city-confirm) and you are telling me, you want admins to add a gimmick, because players would otherwise not leave Detroit?
Anybody remember this? XD