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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (17:42:20 - 02-12)
Dear admins. Is there a good reason why the Family Changelog doesn't work ? And will it be fixed ?
Keep up the good job
Keep up the good job
Anonymous (15:52:50 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 15:29:30 on 02/12:
The medic can only help if the patient and bystanders don't get in his way.
Kcode does what he can, but he can't change the behaviour of the ones who screw up.
Yes Kcode can try to stop the abuses, but than probably other ways to abuse show up and he has to fix those...with every hole he fixes, a new breach will be discovered.
So he focuses on new game aspects and lets the player reglement the issue, if you think someone cheats...kill him, easy, simple and doesn't involve Kcode so he has time for other things.
Anonymous at 14:57:09 on 02/12:
Wrong tense. The game has been dead for a quite a while. Dupes and lackeys make it look otherwise. I feel sorry for Kcode, who is trying hard to save it. He is a bit like a paramedic desperately trying to reanimate a dead patient. But that one is beyond is saving.
Nakketikker at 13:22:42 on 02/12:
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
mmm at 12:28:11 on 02/12:
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
Anonymous at 12:23:28 on 02/12:
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Anonymous at 12:18:48 on 02/12:
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
Wrong tense. The game has been dead for a quite a while. Dupes and lackeys make it look otherwise. I feel sorry for Kcode, who is trying hard to save it. He is a bit like a paramedic desperately trying to reanimate a dead patient. But that one is beyond is saving.
The medic can only help if the patient and bystanders don't get in his way.
Kcode does what he can, but he can't change the behaviour of the ones who screw up.
Yes Kcode can try to stop the abuses, but than probably other ways to abuse show up and he has to fix those...with every hole he fixes, a new breach will be discovered.
So he focuses on new game aspects and lets the player reglement the issue, if you think someone cheats...kill him, easy, simple and doesn't involve Kcode so he has time for other things.
So you are saying, the crew should give up on enforcing game rules and not bother hunting down cheater? Interesting.
That resignation on the crews site, has lead to the demise of the game. Fghting scripts?
Nah, if you can't beat them, join them. Let's introduce our own script, let's call them "lackeys".
That was the beginning of the end of omerta.
Anonymous (15:29:30 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 14:57:09 on 02/12:
Wrong tense. The game has been dead for a quite a while. Dupes and lackeys make it look otherwise. I feel sorry for Kcode, who is trying hard to save it. He is a bit like a paramedic desperately trying to reanimate a dead patient. But that one is beyond is saving.
Nakketikker at 13:22:42 on 02/12:
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
mmm at 12:28:11 on 02/12:
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
Anonymous at 12:23:28 on 02/12:
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Anonymous at 12:18:48 on 02/12:
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
Wrong tense. The game has been dead for a quite a while. Dupes and lackeys make it look otherwise. I feel sorry for Kcode, who is trying hard to save it. He is a bit like a paramedic desperately trying to reanimate a dead patient. But that one is beyond is saving.
The medic can only help if the patient and bystanders don't get in his way.
Kcode does what he can, but he can't change the behaviour of the ones who screw up.
Yes Kcode can try to stop the abuses, but than probably other ways to abuse show up and he has to fix those...with every hole he fixes, a new breach will be discovered.
So he focuses on new game aspects and lets the player reglement the issue, if you think someone cheats...kill him, easy, simple and doesn't involve Kcode so he has time for other things.
Anonymous (14:57:09 - 02-12)
Nakketikker at 13:22:42 on 02/12:
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
mmm at 12:28:11 on 02/12:
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
Anonymous at 12:23:28 on 02/12:
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Anonymous at 12:18:48 on 02/12:
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
Wrong tense. The game has been dead for a quite a while. Dupes and lackeys make it look otherwise. I feel sorry for Kcode, who is trying hard to save it. He is a bit like a paramedic desperately trying to reanimate a dead patient. But that one is beyond is saving.
Anonymous (14:54:21 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 14:47:11 on 02/12:
admins dont give a flying fuck, plain and simple. there is alot more than just that 1 account, tons of them :x
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
instead of whine about ariella is cheating just hire Detectives and shoot!!
Anonymous (14:47:11 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
Nakketikker (13:22:42 - 02-12)
mmm at 12:28:11 on 02/12:
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
Anonymous at 12:23:28 on 02/12:
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Anonymous at 12:18:48 on 02/12:
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
this game is dying in front of their eyes mate ;) i cant cry anymore about it, they fucked up too many things, i have an account i dont do shit with it, just hoping that they will change their thinking perspective, but i doubt it xD
Anonymous (13:08:03 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:51:51 on 02/12:
So all the enemies of Faffie aren't afraid they give enemy too much money? Enemies shouldn't whine about faffie anymore because they already gave them about 500 mil in just 3 days.
Anonymous at 10:53:29 on 02/12:
because every1 is parked in detro to do crimes while their lackeys do the job... so they are playing poker there :)
Anonymous at 09:11:19 on 02/12:
How is it possible Faffie pokerspot makes 200 million (600.000 bullets) everý single day while there are onlý 3 families in Detroit and about 30 in other cities?
How is it possible Faffie pokerspot makes 200 million (600.000 bullets) everý single day while there are onlý 3 families in Detroit and about 30 in other cities?
So all the enemies of Faffie aren't afraid they give enemy too much money? Enemies shouldn't whine about faffie anymore because they already gave them about 500 mil in just 3 days.
Yep, fams should just ask their members to park their ass in their hometown to lackey, groupcrime and gamble there. In order to make detroit less profitable for faffie
Anonymous (12:51:51 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 10:53:29 on 02/12:
because every1 is parked in detro to do crimes while their lackeys do the job... so they are playing poker there :)
Anonymous at 09:11:19 on 02/12:
How is it possible Faffie pokerspot makes 200 million (600.000 bullets) everý single day while there are onlý 3 families in Detroit and about 30 in other cities?
How is it possible Faffie pokerspot makes 200 million (600.000 bullets) everý single day while there are onlý 3 families in Detroit and about 30 in other cities?
So all the enemies of Faffie aren't afraid they give enemy too much money? Enemies shouldn't whine about faffie anymore because they already gave them about 500 mil in just 3 days.
mmm (12:28:11 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:23:28 on 02/12:
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Anonymous at 12:18:48 on 02/12:
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Their a-killing system is bugged itself, they're a-killing people of whom they expect to be abusing bugs. They dont believe anyone anymore. I can't even play anymore coz they wont tell me what I did wrong when 'abusing a bug'. This game needs to die for their eyes to be opened.
Anonymous (12:23:28 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:18:48 on 02/12:
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
this game is dead for 2 or 4 versions already, kerberos, lucchese, righelli, samangano and others saw it already.. if admins refuse to contact top of a fam when they made a mistake ridiculous, if admins akill 100+ because of bug abuse but dont remove the bug it is ridiculous.. this game is.. indeed ridiculous ;)
Anonymous (12:18:48 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
So you are saying lets leave the cheators and let them script and abuse...and concetrate on improving the game(which amdins arent rly doing as you said). Isnt improving the game killing cheators?
Anonymous (12:17:26 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:14:29 on 02/12:
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
no lets kill her , fuck the cheaters
Anonymous (12:14:29 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 12:03:24 on 02/12:
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
First of all, you need proof. You cant deleted an account (a paying player) on suspicion.
Maybe its a script....maybe something else....maybe a player without a RL.....you never know.
But let the admins concentrate on the game and improving it.
For 2 versions there hasnt been any real changes....non.
So lets prioritise.
Anonymous (12:03:24 - 02-12)
i dont understand why those admins dont want to kill scripters..ariella has been chf for 24 almost....and we still didnt see the second chf...i mean common even a blind man can see that its a scripting account
Anonymous (11:05:54 - 02-12)
Ano at 09:46:48 on 02/12:
valahia + deluccio = leviticus. since 3.0..
so what happened ??
Anonymous at 09:19:24 on 02/12:
did ilimidata start valahia?i see almost half of their rankers in vala
did ilimidata start valahia?i see almost half of their rankers in vala
valahia + deluccio = leviticus. since 3.0..
so what happened ??
all valahia tops are in levi as far as i know
Anonymous (10:53:29 - 02-12)
Anonymous at 09:11:19 on 02/12:
How is it possible Faffie pokerspot makes 200 million (600.000 bullets) everý single day while there are onlý 3 families in Detroit and about 30 in other cities?
How is it possible Faffie pokerspot makes 200 million (600.000 bullets) everý single day while there are onlý 3 families in Detroit and about 30 in other cities?
Or is it another Fidelitas/Pentagram/Marrazino??
Tell what yall know and think about aeterna!
XOXO