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Anonymous (01:46:56 - 23-08)
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Giddiness at 01:05:16 on 23/08:
Anonymous at 01:02:49 on 23/08:
Giddiness at 00:49:27 on 23/08:
It took me awhile to figure it out but the thing that ruins the game isn't pacting. The thing that ruins the game is bloods. Cuz no matter what you all see, when you accept some fam as blood, you more or less make a pact with it. It has been proven that bloods mean more than as1 sometimes too. Don't get me wrong there will always be bigger fams that you won't be able to take down alone but once the use of those who helped you is gone you can do whateva you want. Cuz after all the point of the game is being mafia guy and bla bla. But mafia families are only about their own families and how to make it stronger.
Just thinking out loud..

There's no incentive to play Nazdrovia style aka "Use and Abuse your bloods".

It's not like people and fam tops suffer from amnesia. THey remember very well which fams are cooperative and reliable and which are lying backstabbers. Which fams would you blood the following version?
I know I would try to avoid blooding Nazdrovia at all costs, because of their history.

You want to get rid off pacting. Vote NO on the ROM and do not bother to rerank, while there are 15 fams up, whose only business is, sticking their fingers in each others ass with no intention whatsoever to kill each other. Only reset versions with a fair amount of families.
I believe you fail to understand me.. Being good bloods is the problem or at least that's how I see it.

I fundamentally disagree with you. Bloods itself are not the problem. The problem is the sheer amount of families that form a bloodweb these days.
Nobody has a problem with five or six blooded families finishing a version together.
The problem is, it has become en vogue the last couple of versions to finish a version with 10 fams. And as a result 10 fams go after 2 or 3 each war.

And it's not particularly helpful, when families are in a self-denial mode and do mental gymnastics to reduce the amounts of families they call bloods by counting a 4 fam alliance as a single blood. Thus they can add five more families and still just have officially six bloods (while infact they are blooded with nine).
Same with this Janissary+ faggotry. If you start as a four fam alliance, and add five families, you are massblooding, too.

And of course, the families you blood bring each two more families into those "bloodwebs" you are not blooded yourself to, but that will usually no attack you and probably jump for you with your blood if needed.

Versions would be better and go longer, if all tops were a) a bit more honest to themselves about how many bloods they have. and b) if all tops reach some kinda consensus, to limit their bloods and stick to that. And just jump when their actual bloods are under attack and not their "Bloods' bloods". (It's not gonna happen.)

As it is now, almost any given war either escalates into a server wide rampage or a gangbang, because attacking fams shit their pants, beacuse some families that have no business in that war will jump, because their bloods are in for the counter.
Anonymous (01:30:36 - 23-08)
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Giddiness at 00:49:27 on 23/08:
It took me awhile to figure it out but the thing that ruins the game isn't pacting. The thing that ruins the game is bloods. Cuz no matter what you all see, when you accept some fam as blood, you more or less make a pact with it. It has been proven that bloods mean more than as1 sometimes too. Don't get me wrong there will always be bigger fams that you won't be able to take down alone but once the use of those who helped you is gone you can do whateva you want. Cuz after all the point of the game is being mafia guy and bla bla. But mafia families are only about their own families and how to make it stronger.
Just thinking out loud..

I understand where you're coming from but the problem isnt bloods its the amount of them. If the players mentality changed you could easily play this game with a limited amount of them, lets say 3. The thing is that too many people get butthurt over alot of things that are to be expected in a (mafia) game so then it ends up in people not wanting to shoot bloods of bloods either despite the family itself being unrelated. Thats why instead of not shooting bloods of bloods they just blood the bloods of their bloods and thats how the pacts are created in the long run. This will result eventually in the downfall of this game (if this hasnt happened yet). Soon buying bullets wont be needed because people wont shoot the bloods of the bloods of their bloods and with the amount of bloods most fams have everyone is related somehow.
Anonymous (01:15:06 - 23-08)
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if we consider all bloods as good bloods to begin with, we can start a war with an 1 on 1 which can chain into an all out war with all fams involved.
Giddiness Bulgaria (01:12:12 - 23-08)
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Anonymous at 01:08:25 on 23/08:
Good Bloods help regardless of ratios and get therefor accused of gangbanging.
Bad bloods don't help and get pillored for not doing so xD.
That's why in order to kill a fam you've to prepare a counter for their bloods too which may even bring their bloods's bloods. Therefore you need a lot fams to shoot.... and you've a gangbang.
Anonymous (01:08:25 - 23-08)
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Good Bloods help regardless of ratios and get therefor accused of gangbanging.
Bad bloods don't help and get pillored for not doing so xD.
Giddiness Bulgaria (01:05:16 - 23-08)
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Anonymous at 01:02:49 on 23/08:
Giddiness at 00:49:27 on 23/08:
It took me awhile to figure it out but the thing that ruins the game isn't pacting. The thing that ruins the game is bloods. Cuz no matter what you all see, when you accept some fam as blood, you more or less make a pact with it. It has been proven that bloods mean more than as1 sometimes too. Don't get me wrong there will always be bigger fams that you won't be able to take down alone but once the use of those who helped you is gone you can do whateva you want. Cuz after all the point of the game is being mafia guy and bla bla. But mafia families are only about their own families and how to make it stronger.
Just thinking out loud..

There's no incentive to play Nazdrovia style aka "Use and Abuse your bloods".

It's not like people and fam tops suffer from amnesia. THey remember very well which fams are cooperative and reliable and which are lying backstabbers. Which fams would you blood the following version?
I know I would try to avoid blooding Nazdrovia at all costs, because of their history.

You want to get rid off pacting. Vote NO on the ROM and do not bother to rerank, while there are 15 fams up, whose only business is, sticking their fingers in each others ass with no intention whatsoever to kill each other. Only reset versions with a fair amount of families.
I believe you fail to understand me.. Being good bloods is the problem or at least that's how I see it.
Anonymous (01:02:49 - 23-08)
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Giddiness at 00:49:27 on 23/08:
It took me awhile to figure it out but the thing that ruins the game isn't pacting. The thing that ruins the game is bloods. Cuz no matter what you all see, when you accept some fam as blood, you more or less make a pact with it. It has been proven that bloods mean more than as1 sometimes too. Don't get me wrong there will always be bigger fams that you won't be able to take down alone but once the use of those who helped you is gone you can do whateva you want. Cuz after all the point of the game is being mafia guy and bla bla. But mafia families are only about their own families and how to make it stronger.
Just thinking out loud..

There's no incentive to play Nazdrovia style aka "Use and Abuse your bloods".

It's not like people and fam tops suffer from amnesia. THey remember very well which fams are cooperative and reliable and which are lying backstabbers. Which fams would you blood the following version?
I know I would try to avoid blooding Nazdrovia at all costs, because of their history.

You want to get rid off pacting. Vote NO on the ROM and do not bother to rerank, while there are 15 fams up, whose only business is, sticking their fingers in each others ass with no intention whatsoever to kill each other. Only reset versions with a fair amount of families.
Giddiness Bulgaria (00:49:27 - 23-08)
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It took me awhile to figure it out but the thing that ruins the game isn't pacting. The thing that ruins the game is bloods. Cuz no matter what you all see, when you accept some fam as blood, you more or less make a pact with it. It has been proven that bloods mean more than as1 sometimes too. Don't get me wrong there will always be bigger fams that you won't be able to take down alone but once the use of those who helped you is gone you can do whateva you want. Cuz after all the point of the game is being mafia guy and bla bla. But mafia families are only about their own families and how to make it stronger.
Just thinking out loud..
Anonymous (21:38:06 - 22-08)
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Tseeton at 21:22:04 on 22/08:
Cmooooon Reset this shit

There are more than 10 fams up. Don't reset until that number is down to 5 or so.

That would make versions more interesting. Crew announcement not to reset unless there is less than a certain numbers of families left.
Makes it less rewarding to join a 15 fam bloodweb if at least half of it would need to get cleaned before reset.
Tseeton Greece (21:22:04 - 22-08)
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Cmooooon Reset this shit
Anonymous (20:50:01 - 22-08)
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Anonymous at 20:47:55 on 22/08:
what is going on with coccada?

Looks like they are failing on anarchy. Another fam that can't so jack with out a gangbang ;)
Anonymous (20:49:01 - 22-08)
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fired at anarchy i guess :) failing hard to bf ^^
Anonymous (20:48:26 - 22-08)
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Anonymous at 20:47:55 on 22/08:
what is going on with coccada?
who cares? just another useless fam going down
Anonymous (20:47:55 - 22-08)
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what is going on with coccada?
Anonymous (20:01:35 - 22-08)
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Anonymous at 17:18:10 on 22/08:
Anonymous at 17:09:34 on 22/08:
Psychonicus is being hijacked LOL

again that noob don moondark
thinks he plays game alone
there is something very much wrong there - Bladiebla dead but still a don - members 49 - HQ 25...wtf? :o
Anonymous (19:05:43 - 22-08)
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Soph at 16:48:32 on 22/08:
Anonymous at 12:53:45 on 22/08:
"As a collective of families opens fire on the Jannisary alliance.The collective consists of; Pavleone, Righelli, Krays, Faffie, Pervoli, Casappa, Monte Carlo and Inzerillo."

So much to Krays won't Gangbang xD.


Good point, yet horribly brought. If Janni+ consists of 6 families and has 12 bloods with each a chance to jump in, of which 7 were in top 10 at that time, families should be allowed to gangbang as there's enough reason to expect insane counters.

Apply cold water in the burned area.
Anonymous (17:18:10 - 22-08)
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Anonymous at 17:09:34 on 22/08:
Psychonicus is being hijacked LOL

again that noob don moondark
thinks he plays game alone
Anonymous (17:09:34 - 22-08)
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Psychonicus is being hijacked LOL

Anonymous (17:05:45 - 22-08)
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Anonymous at 16:45:39 on 22/08:
Saros`away at 16:01:25 on 22/08:
Anonymous at 15:46:51 on 22/08:
Anonymous at 15:34:20 on 22/08:
Anonymous at 13:28:11 on 22/08:
well Vaffanculo got a lot of help last version, why i don't know, that do only the ones involved.
It could be that vaffanculo just doesn't show their connections openly, afterall its a mafiagame, lying and pretending is given. But don't nail me on that assumption, as it could be false too.
So its hard to tell who is with who and how the various connections are.
But for me it doesn't change the point that it is a struggle to survive, you invest time and money into the accounts and you most certainly don't want to die in a fluke. Every version showed, there are pacts, alliances and gangbangs. Its hard to pin someone down.
Faffie has chosen to be more part of pact and gangbang instead of getting banged version after version. I think this gangbang, pact mentality won't change soon.
Noone wants a dead account afterall.

vaffanculo finished it with 4 families including themselves, it's a major difference compared to regular versions. Also I can't remember them doing a single gangbang that version, I could be wrong on that tho.

depends how we define gangbang, regardless that there is nowhere stated vaffanculo has done gangbang...they had just way more help than from known bloods.

There were 5 on 2, 8 on 4 and 4 on 1 in vaffans wars.
But thats just the involved fams, the ratios of brugs may vary, thats why it hard to define.
You could say 5 fams on 2 is no gangbang, but if the actually ratio of brugs is 10 to 1 you could define it as gangbang again.

We always tried to keep our ratios as low as possible, the only war that even remotely could be considered a gangbang was against Trafficante (Vaffanculo/Messina+Ascension/Signoria+Coccada which is either 3 or 5 depending on how you look at it) and that was after we shot Tempestuoso and Redarmy just a few hours before it.

Regardless you can have all the brugs in the world, but you still won't have them all online and ready to shoot during wartime.

well we can say, it looks often as it were gangbangs from fams involved and their size, but that doesn't say how many are shooting actually. fam ratio could be 8 to 1 but shooting close to 1 on 1. You (Vaffan) have done great last version, overall very solid version win. To be honest the problem was for this version the whole bloodweb and the time to gear up. So, all were loaded and regardless who you attack there will be alot of people and fams involved. Normally you don't have that much time to get bullets. And the lack of smaller wars inbetween strenghtens that view.
Everyone geared up almost right from the beginnung to that one deciding clash.


The problem of this version is that people stop shooting when there's still families alive. If Faffie or Anarchy wants to win the version they should gun down the rest of the fams. On the other hand I do not understand why those other families don't do any shooting, it's always the same families that do the shooting (in this case Faffie that is involved in most wars).

I don't see any reason why more than 5 families should be kept alive this version (by the winners).
Soph Netherlands (16:48:32 - 22-08)
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Anonymous at 12:53:45 on 22/08:
"As a collective of families opens fire on the Jannisary alliance.The collective consists of; Pavleone, Righelli, Krays, Faffie, Pervoli, Casappa, Monte Carlo and Inzerillo."

So much to Krays won't Gangbang xD.


Good point, yet horribly brought. If Janni+ consists of 6 families and has 12 bloods with each a chance to jump in, of which 7 were in top 10 at that time, families should be allowed to gangbang as there's enough reason to expect insane counters.