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Anonymous (14:53:37 - 19-08)
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I think the shrinking playerbase is also a reason for this "massblooding" issue
if there were lots of players reranking, bunch of fams couldn't dominate all over them

and with enough players and families, such pacts etc might not look so massive or be so effective
I mean a group of 5 will look massive if there are a total of 8, but it won't look so scary if there were a total of 45

as I see it, there is not enough players and families to form more complex relationships than 2 or 3 main sides.
and with just 2 or 3 sides, we have this couple big wars causing 90%+ of higranks dying and pretty much ending the version situation
so the main reason is the shrinking playerbase imo
Anonymous (14:52:47 - 19-08)
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Anonymous at 14:28:41 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 14:20:43 on 19/08:
Problem that this game is over within 2 weeks after a KA fix is indeed mass-blooding. There are several reasons why people don't rerank, some of those are very obvious.

1. DCs are based on the income of a Bruglione, low ranks have a way harder time this way. It certainly is very possible to still get one and rerank (I do it myself) but it's just more time consuming and thus makes it easier to quit and wait for a reset.

2. Due to mass blooding, pacts etc. etc. it's quite hard to build on something new. An example was shown last night. Monte Carlo tried to build up something new again, they even had some Righelli rerankers in them. Yet Faffie (righelli bloods) and Gambino gangbang them while they are small because they MIGHT become a threat to them in the future.

If you rerank and people shoot you down immediatly, afraid of you getting up, then it's also easier to just wait for a reset. You do need to get a fair shot at coming back.

to 2. that playstyle is there for some versions already, furthermore MC was not new, they survived barely yes. The problem is already the reranking issue, why prolonging the version artificially if only a handfull will rerank? And those who rerank do nothing else than kill other rerankers currently. That is more of an issue, if you decide to rerank and barely out of protection you get killed again, thats the problem.

I didn't mean MC is new, I just used them as an example to show that you can't really rebuild something. MC has never been a direct threat to Faffie, they were a middle size fam. Yet to prevent them from even recovering by any size they get shot down.

I also know this is not something from just this version, same with DCs this is something that has been going on for ages already. The game has become a race to the finish line. When you get gunned down once, people will keep gunning you down to prevent you to stand on your legs again. You will only be able to come back if you died and you are friends with those who are already big, which only makes 1 group or side group even more. The game gets out of balance that way.

Admins should make clear if they want a never ending version, they should just make very clear rules on how to win. Last fam standing wins, lockers get adminkilled or flagged. Atleast something like that would perhaps make people fight eachother if that is the only option.
Anonymous (14:28:41 - 19-08)
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Anonymous at 14:20:43 on 19/08:
Problem that this game is over within 2 weeks after a KA fix is indeed mass-blooding. There are several reasons why people don't rerank, some of those are very obvious.

1. DCs are based on the income of a Bruglione, low ranks have a way harder time this way. It certainly is very possible to still get one and rerank (I do it myself) but it's just more time consuming and thus makes it easier to quit and wait for a reset.

2. Due to mass blooding, pacts etc. etc. it's quite hard to build on something new. An example was shown last night. Monte Carlo tried to build up something new again, they even had some Righelli rerankers in them. Yet Faffie (righelli bloods) and Gambino gangbang them while they are small because they MIGHT become a threat to them in the future.

If you rerank and people shoot you down immediatly, afraid of you getting up, then it's also easier to just wait for a reset. You do need to get a fair shot at coming back.

to 2. that playstyle is there for some versions already, furthermore MC was not new, they survived barely yes. The problem is already the reranking issue, why prolonging the version artificially if only a handfull will rerank? And those who rerank do nothing else than kill other rerankers currently. That is more of an issue, if you decide to rerank and barely out of protection you get killed again, thats the problem.
Anonymous (14:20:43 - 19-08)
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Problem that this game is over within 2 weeks after a KA fix is indeed mass-blooding. There are several reasons why people don't rerank, some of those are very obvious.

1. DCs are based on the income of a Bruglione, low ranks have a way harder time this way. It certainly is very possible to still get one and rerank (I do it myself) but it's just more time consuming and thus makes it easier to quit and wait for a reset.

2. Due to mass blooding, pacts etc. etc. it's quite hard to build on something new. An example was shown last night. Monte Carlo tried to build up something new again, they even had some Righelli rerankers in them. Yet Faffie (righelli bloods) and Gambino gangbang them while they are small because they MIGHT become a threat to them in the future.

If you rerank and people shoot you down immediatly, afraid of you getting up, then it's also easier to just wait for a reset. You do need to get a fair shot at coming back.
Anonymous (14:20:05 - 19-08)
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JTRNotLoggedIn at 12:49:49 on 19/08:
JansNotLoggedin at 12:10:33 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 11:36:59 on 19/08:
Isn't it a bit pathetic that people already are talking about a reset? It's only 1½ week ago they fixed the KA and it is already Game Over? People should seriously start to blood less families to avoid situations like this, so it won't end right after it has begun. And then everybody, who dies, should rerank instead of drinking milk and eating cookies, while crying over the loss of their account.

Nobody can be satisifed to fight the same war over and over again and then the version is done. If that's the case, then we, the players, are seriously the biggest, stupid "money cow" ever seen.

I'm trying to rerank. Are you?
Also trying to rerank, but omerta crew made a big mistake , they want us to rerank, but they don't give us the credits to do so.In the past you could add credits till 100k+ to your account, now that is 10k the highest, on lowranks the credits are gone very fast.
if you where lucky and had some credits left from your first account, you can rank a bit and make 3 or maybe 4 mil cash with it.
That is not enough to buy a new donation code.

Also the donation codes you bought on obay with previous account can't be used on a rebirth account.
In short , admins made it kinda impossible to rerank.
Sure you can rank manual, I hear this 1 coming, but be real, after spending so much time already people want a bit a cooldown time, and therefor lackeys would be great.

And I also hear the comment, well ask friends ask your family.
How this friends and that family, all facing the same problem.
Maybe 2 or 3 left, swindler and lower, do you really think they have the amount of cash to help everyone on new credits ?
Admins really should rethink their milk-cow .
People don't want to spend more irl cash on a second account.

Admins can say we won't reset, and they shouldn't.
But they should really fast find a solution to add credits allot cheaper as it is now.

Jans


I don't think the admins are interested in continuing a version, if nobody buys dcs - then they don't earn anything on their game, which ofcourse don't make sense from a business perspective. So I think it's ridiculous to ask them to give free credits away, etc., since we have to remember, that it is a business.

Instead they perhaps should sell credits cheaper to your second account to motivate people to restart - like, if you died, you get 2 dcs for the price of one the first 3 times you buy. Then it wouldn't be so expensive to restart, but they would still generate a cashflow, which is a requirement in every business.

you can fuck your customers a little here and there, but if you fuck them right in the ass with a huge black dick, they'll eventually realize it and your business will die before you know it :D

that's the only thing I see when I look at Omerta through a clean business perspective
JTRNotLoggedIn (13:56:08 - 19-08)
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anon at 13:42:35 on 19/08:
shell at 13:20:23 on 19/08:
Jouri at 13:09:11 on 19/08:
matto at 13:03:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 13:00:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.

Smul 3.0

That's me.. next version ;)

Butchetta against affinitas

Goupe also did well in this version, he survived a couple of GF's shooting at him, yet survived and managed to kill 3 GF's.

Yet, Red and Haike did the best defense, i have ever seen in this game as they stood the longest and were standing against a big group.

how hard is it defending against a couple of dupes with this new KA. When some decent fams first went for it, it went easy enough.

A lot of decent fams. went for it - and a lot of decent accounts died against them. Furthermore, then they managed to not only defend but also counter and actually take down the family. They killed like 20-25 (perhaps more) accounts alone in that war. I find that quite impressive. Why can't you just give them some credit? Are you from some of the families which got shot, since it's so hard to acknowledge it was quite an accomplishment the pulled off...

True, when 2 families with 60+ brugs teamed up and shot at 4 am (with preshots) then they didn't manage to survive, even though they did take some bfs as well. I haven't spoken with Haike yet, but it would be interesting to know, if he got a sms notice after being preshot.
Anonymous (13:44:51 - 19-08)
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anon at 13:42:35 on 19/08:
shell at 13:20:23 on 19/08:
Jouri at 13:09:11 on 19/08:
matto at 13:03:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 13:00:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.

Smul 3.0

That's me.. next version ;)

Butchetta against affinitas

Goupe also did well in this version, he survived a couple of GF's shooting at him, yet survived and managed to kill 3 GF's.

Yet, Red and Haike did the best defense, i have ever seen in this game as they stood the longest and were standing against a big group.

how hard is it defending against a couple of dupes with this new KA. When some decent fams first went for it, it went easy enough.

Mike and Bazjuuh against Favians (Jans)
anon (13:42:35 - 19-08)
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shell at 13:20:23 on 19/08:
Jouri at 13:09:11 on 19/08:
matto at 13:03:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 13:00:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.

Smul 3.0

That's me.. next version ;)

Butchetta against affinitas

Goupe also did well in this version, he survived a couple of GF's shooting at him, yet survived and managed to kill 3 GF's.

Yet, Red and Haike did the best defense, i have ever seen in this game as they stood the longest and were standing against a big group.

how hard is it defending against a couple of dupes with this new KA. When some decent fams first went for it, it went easy enough.
shell (13:20:23 - 19-08)
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Jouri at 13:09:11 on 19/08:
matto at 13:03:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 13:00:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.

Smul 3.0

That's me.. next version ;)

Butchetta against affinitas

Goupe also did well in this version, he survived a couple of GF's shooting at him, yet survived and managed to kill 3 GF's.

Yet, Red and Haike did the best defense, i have ever seen in this game as they stood the longest and were standing against a big group.
Jouri Morocco (13:09:11 - 19-08)
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matto at 13:03:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 13:00:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.

Smul 3.0

That's me.. next version ;)
matto (13:03:22 - 19-08)
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Anonymous at 13:00:22 on 19/08:
Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.

Smul 3.0
Anonymous (13:00:22 - 19-08)
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Anonymous at 12:51:03 on 19/08:
:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.

Furthermore the emphasis was on some of the best, not the best.
The best would be hard to determine anyway. I certainly would not rank them.
Anonymous (12:51:03 - 19-08)
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:o at 10:21:22 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 08:29:01 on 19/08:
RIP MC.

Nice run, Red & Haike - imo some of the best defense ever seen in this game.
nice yes. but not even close

Name a better one ?
Only one I can think of was Spero's stand in 2.1 as GF of SacraCorona against 4 GFs.
JTRNotLoggedIn (12:49:49 - 19-08)
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JansNotLoggedin at 12:10:33 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 11:36:59 on 19/08:
Isn't it a bit pathetic that people already are talking about a reset? It's only 1½ week ago they fixed the KA and it is already Game Over? People should seriously start to blood less families to avoid situations like this, so it won't end right after it has begun. And then everybody, who dies, should rerank instead of drinking milk and eating cookies, while crying over the loss of their account.

Nobody can be satisifed to fight the same war over and over again and then the version is done. If that's the case, then we, the players, are seriously the biggest, stupid "money cow" ever seen.

I'm trying to rerank. Are you?
Also trying to rerank, but omerta crew made a big mistake , they want us to rerank, but they don't give us the credits to do so.In the past you could add credits till 100k+ to your account, now that is 10k the highest, on lowranks the credits are gone very fast.
if you where lucky and had some credits left from your first account, you can rank a bit and make 3 or maybe 4 mil cash with it.
That is not enough to buy a new donation code.

Also the donation codes you bought on obay with previous account can't be used on a rebirth account.
In short , admins made it kinda impossible to rerank.
Sure you can rank manual, I hear this 1 coming, but be real, after spending so much time already people want a bit a cooldown time, and therefor lackeys would be great.

And I also hear the comment, well ask friends ask your family.
How this friends and that family, all facing the same problem.
Maybe 2 or 3 left, swindler and lower, do you really think they have the amount of cash to help everyone on new credits ?
Admins really should rethink their milk-cow .
People don't want to spend more irl cash on a second account.

Admins can say we won't reset, and they shouldn't.
But they should really fast find a solution to add credits allot cheaper as it is now.

Jans


I don't think the admins are interested in continuing a version, if nobody buys dcs - then they don't earn anything on their game, which ofcourse don't make sense from a business perspective. So I think it's ridiculous to ask them to give free credits away, etc., since we have to remember, that it is a business.

Instead they perhaps should sell credits cheaper to your second account to motivate people to restart - like, if you died, you get 2 dcs for the price of one the first 3 times you buy. Then it wouldn't be so expensive to restart, but they would still generate a cashflow, which is a requirement in every business.
Anonymous (12:47:05 - 19-08)
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Anonymous at 12:39:26 on 19/08:
what time krays+ vs faffie

krays will hug until they are shot. 2 weeks hugging i suppose. anarchy/faffie has more rerankers then krays
Anonymous (12:39:26 - 19-08)
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what time krays+ vs faffie
Anonymous (12:39:02 - 19-08)
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JansNotLoggedin at 12:10:33 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 11:36:59 on 19/08:
Isn't it a bit pathetic that people already are talking about a reset? It's only 1½ week ago they fixed the KA and it is already Game Over? People should seriously start to blood less families to avoid situations like this, so it won't end right after it has begun. And then everybody, who dies, should rerank instead of drinking milk and eating cookies, while crying over the loss of their account.

Nobody can be satisifed to fight the same war over and over again and then the version is done. If that's the case, then we, the players, are seriously the biggest, stupid "money cow" ever seen.

I'm trying to rerank. Are you?
Also trying to rerank, but omerta crew made a big mistake , they want us to rerank, but they don't give us the credits to do so.In the past you could add credits till 100k+ to your account, now that is 10k the highest, on lowranks the credits are gone very fast.
if you where lucky and had some credits left from your first account, you can rank a bit and make 3 or maybe 4 mil cash with it.
That is not enough to buy a new donation code.

Also the donation codes you bought on obay with previous account can't be used on a rebirth account.
In short , admins made it kinda impossible to rerank.
Sure you can rank manual, I hear this 1 coming, but be real, after spending so much time already people want a bit a cooldown time, and therefor lackeys would be great.

And I also hear the comment, well ask friends ask your family.
How this friends and that family, all facing the same problem.
Maybe 2 or 3 left, swindler and lower, do you really think they have the amount of cash to help everyone on new credits ?
Admins really should rethink their milk-cow .
People don't want to spend more irl cash on a second account.

Admins can say we won't reset, and they shouldn't.
But they should really fast find a solution to add credits allot cheaper as it is now.

Jans


Lesson of the day, make sure you have filled credits before you shoot.
Well played Brando.
JansNotLoggedin (12:10:33 - 19-08)
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JTRNotLoggedIn at 11:36:59 on 19/08:
Isn't it a bit pathetic that people already are talking about a reset? It's only 1½ week ago they fixed the KA and it is already Game Over? People should seriously start to blood less families to avoid situations like this, so it won't end right after it has begun. And then everybody, who dies, should rerank instead of drinking milk and eating cookies, while crying over the loss of their account.

Nobody can be satisifed to fight the same war over and over again and then the version is done. If that's the case, then we, the players, are seriously the biggest, stupid "money cow" ever seen.

I'm trying to rerank. Are you?
Also trying to rerank, but omerta crew made a big mistake , they want us to rerank, but they don't give us the credits to do so.In the past you could add credits till 100k+ to your account, now that is 10k the highest, on lowranks the credits are gone very fast.
if you where lucky and had some credits left from your first account, you can rank a bit and make 3 or maybe 4 mil cash with it.
That is not enough to buy a new donation code.

Also the donation codes you bought on obay with previous account can't be used on a rebirth account.
In short , admins made it kinda impossible to rerank.
Sure you can rank manual, I hear this 1 coming, but be real, after spending so much time already people want a bit a cooldown time, and therefor lackeys would be great.

And I also hear the comment, well ask friends ask your family.
How this friends and that family, all facing the same problem.
Maybe 2 or 3 left, swindler and lower, do you really think they have the amount of cash to help everyone on new credits ?
Admins really should rethink their milk-cow .
People don't want to spend more irl cash on a second account.

Admins can say we won't reset, and they shouldn't.
But they should really fast find a solution to add credits allot cheaper as it is now.

Jans

Anonymous (12:09:27 - 19-08)
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JTRNotLoggedIn at 11:36:59 on 19/08:
Isn't it a bit pathetic that people already are talking about a reset? It's only 1½ week ago they fixed the KA and it is already Game Over? People should seriously start to blood less families to avoid situations like this, so it won't end right after it has begun. And then everybody, who dies, should rerank instead of drinking milk and eating cookies, while crying over the loss of their account.

Nobody can be satisifed to fight the same war over and over again and then the version is done. If that's the case, then we, the players, are seriously the biggest, stupid "money cow" ever seen.

I'm trying to rerank. Are you?

This is what you get when 2 wars whipe out 90% of the highranks.

Yet they made KA even more attack-favoured. Good luck, maybe one day they will see the light that in 2013 you can't have games that takes everything from you with 1 click.

And no, rebirth isn't enough.
Anonymous (12:06:06 - 19-08)
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shell at 12:03:51 on 19/08:
JTRNotLoggedIn at 11:36:59 on 19/08:
Isn't it a bit pathetic that people already are talking about a reset? It's only 1½ week ago they fixed the KA and it is already Game Over? People should seriously start to blood less families to avoid situations like this, so it won't end right after it has begun. And then everybody, who dies, should rerank instead of drinking milk and eating cookies, while crying over the loss of their account.

Nobody can be satisifed to fight the same war over and over again and then the version is done. If that's the case, then we, the players, are seriously the biggest, stupid "money cow" ever seen.

I'm trying to rerank. Are you?


You could have never been more wrong.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking milk. I can re-rank and drink my milk at the same time.

Btw, at this rate re-ranking might be milk, those who re-rank can get the control later on. It won't be easy but it is not undoable. Mass blooding has always been a big problem and it will keep problematic as it seems. Mass blooding was the main reason why we targeted jannisary actually. They tried to claim the version by mass blooding and forming a big alliance, and then there would be only 4 5 families left to shoot. That was so lame and it paid off.
Interestingly many families had less bloods.