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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (03:16:13 - 05-04)
Anonymous (00:14:53 - 05-04)
Tomorow the time when Vittoria gets taken down finally comes! Who will it be? ;)
Anonymous (00:13:16 - 05-04)
Vittoria jumped in for some of their bloods idd, and have had some good wars. But they also backstabbed alot and changed bloods all the time. Everything to keep alive. Merki is one of the most devious tops on omerta. Next version, whenever that1 comes wont be as easy for him.
Anonymous (23:17:53 - 04-04)
Nordip at 21:14:13 on 04/04:
Im not comparing both fams trough their play style, i'm stating the fact that in that situation there is resemblance of action shooting re ranking or just starting fams but not encounter those families when they were on full strength. So it's not a comparison but rather a resemblance in action. Vittoria did shoot for bloods even with their small playerbase that does not make them a winner. But it gives them reputation that they are loyal to their bloods. And with that reputation they can continue of course. They achieved that no one can deny that. It's at least a much better reputation than Adolf Kanka.
Anonymous at 20:25:16 on 04/04:
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Nordip at 20:16:42 on 04/04:
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Im not comparing both fams trough their play style, i'm stating the fact that in that situation there is resemblance of action shooting re ranking or just starting fams but not encounter those families when they were on full strength. So it's not a comparison but rather a resemblance in action. Vittoria did shoot for bloods even with their small playerbase that does not make them a winner. But it gives them reputation that they are loyal to their bloods. And with that reputation they can continue of course. They achieved that no one can deny that. It's at least a much better reputation than Adolf Kanka.
Blur (22:18:26 - 04-04)
Nordip at 21:16:45 on 04/04:
A essay gives more information on background purposes than one-liners. The ones that actually read such essays will understand rather than creating their own imagination and heresy based on the one-liners and become know-it-all without realizing the bigger picture.
Blur at 20:49:05 on 04/04:
whats with the essays lately Nordip?
whats with the essays lately Nordip?
A essay gives more information on background purposes than one-liners. The ones that actually read such essays will understand rather than creating their own imagination and heresy based on the one-liners and become know-it-all without realizing the bigger picture.
Regarding your essay, i only disagree with you about luchese. I really dont believe they had as much influence in the game as you made it sound like. Also after they died, it took them such a long time to get backup again due to various reasons. As i know them and their tops i think your image of them is a little over-exaggerated.
Blur at 20:49:05 on 04/04:
whats with the essays lately Nordip?
whats with the essays lately Nordip?
A essay gives more information on background purposes than one-liners. The ones that actually read such essays will understand rather than creating their own imagination and heresy based on the one-liners and become know-it-all without realizing the bigger picture.
Anonymous at 20:25:16 on 04/04:
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Nordip at 20:16:42 on 04/04:
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Im not comparing both fams trough their play style, i'm stating the fact that in that situation there is resemblance of action shooting re ranking or just starting fams but not encounter those families when they were on full strength. So it's not a comparison but rather a resemblance in action. Vittoria did shoot for bloods even with their small playerbase that does not make them a winner. But it gives them reputation that they are loyal to their bloods. And with that reputation they can continue of course. They achieved that no one can deny that. It's at least a much better reputation than Adolf Kanka.
Anonymous (21:08:43 - 04-04)
Anonymous at 20:50:51 on 04/04:
Instead of announcing stupid/meaningless updates the crew should tell the players if there will be a reset or the version will continue for some more months simply because it's open, the game can't continue like it is now.
Instead of announcing stupid/meaningless updates the crew should tell the players if there will be a reset or the version will continue for some more months simply because it's open, the game can't continue like it is now.
Dear all,
The majority was not in favour for a reset so the ROM has been reset and will run for 2 weeks now. If you do not want the game to reset, just vote NO.
On the Dutch version of Omerta quite a few players was not pleased with the Friday resets. What do you think? What would the best day to reset the game in the future?
Have a nice weekend,
Bramblerose
Not that hard to understand.
Last time when they check the vote, the majority voted no.
Reset-O-Meter will be checked again 2 weeks later.
So this weekend they will check the ROM again. And announce the reset. Assuming the vote will be still in favour of a reset then.
Anonymous (20:50:51 - 04-04)
Instead of announcing stupid/meaningless updates the crew should tell the players if there will be a reset or the version will continue for some more months simply because it's open, the game can't continue like it is now.
Blur (20:49:05 - 04-04)
whats with the essays lately Nordip?
Anonymous (20:25:16 - 04-04)
Nordip at 20:16:42 on 04/04:
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
Anonymous (20:14:37 - 04-04)
counselor at 16:03:57 on 04/04:
The winner will be the family who is #1 at the moment of reset...
agree with it or not...it doesn't really matter
it is what it is
The winner will be the family who is #1 at the moment of reset...
agree with it or not...it doesn't really matter
it is what it is
"It is madness
Says reason
It is what it is
says love
It is unhappiness
says caution
It is nothing but pain
says fear
It has no future
says insight
It is what it is
says love
It is ridiculous
says pride
It is foolish
says caution
It is impossible
says experience
It is what it is
says love."
[Erich Fried]
One of my favorite poems though. Thanks for bringing it up. :)
anonymous (19:36:48 - 04-04)
version over allready, half of the current fam are...dunno wtf they are (= every time when reset is near we can see these "I wanna make a fam with bs name" coming up), half more or less old fams but only few of them has really done something (except died few times)
winner? fide has got good run, no1 can denied it, is temp oldest fam alive atm? I think that also kind of count (only living blood of fide), "last standing/fam #1 when reset is announced" - total bs, hug a lot and shoot late when rest are empty is NOT a way to "win".
winner? fide has got good run, no1 can denied it, is temp oldest fam alive atm? I think that also kind of count (only living blood of fide), "last standing/fam #1 when reset is announced" - total bs, hug a lot and shoot late when rest are empty is NOT a way to "win".
Anonymous (19:32:57 - 04-04)
Fam with most chief+ kills should be winner.
Anonymous (18:56:14 - 04-04)
turk gay as1 starting again "marazzino = chimaera"
somebody take down those fuckin nuubs
somebody take down those fuckin nuubs
Anonymous (18:36:02 - 04-04)
umbrella will never be winners
this version was pretty much better then gay version claimed by pentagram
lots of ups and downs for families, and pretty good challenges
its bad that playerbase shrinking day by day, and good versions like this became too short
lots of ups and downs for families, and pretty good challenges
its bad that playerbase shrinking day by day, and good versions like this became too short
The winner will be the family who is #1 at the moment of reset...
agree with it or not...it doesn't really matter
it is what it is
agree with it or not...it doesn't really matter
it is what it is
Anonymous (15:20:12 - 04-04)
every fam that contributed to the versions outcome.
without the wars that happened and the outcome of every single one of it, we would have a different status. So we all contributed to whoever wins in the end.
without the wars that happened and the outcome of every single one of it, we would have a different status. So we all contributed to whoever wins in the end.
Tomorow the time when Vittoria gets taken down finally comes! Who will it be? ;)
Yea, it must take 24+ hours for your "plan" to get enough. You sound like a sor loser from kasmia :p