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Anonymous (21:08:43 - 04-04)
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Anonymous at 20:50:51 on 04/04:
Instead of announcing stupid/meaningless updates the crew should tell the players if there will be a reset or the version will continue for some more months simply because it's open, the game can't continue like it is now.


Dear all,

The majority was not in favour for a reset so the ROM has been reset and will run for 2 weeks now. If you do not want the game to reset, just vote NO.

On the Dutch version of Omerta quite a few players was not pleased with the Friday resets. What do you think? What would the best day to reset the game in the future?

Have a nice weekend,
Bramblerose

Not that hard to understand.
Last time when they check the vote, the majority voted no.
Reset-O-Meter will be checked again 2 weeks later.

So this weekend they will check the ROM again. And announce the reset. Assuming the vote will be still in favour of a reset then.

Anonymous (20:50:51 - 04-04)
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Instead of announcing stupid/meaningless updates the crew should tell the players if there will be a reset or the version will continue for some more months simply because it's open, the game can't continue like it is now.
Blur (20:49:05 - 04-04)
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whats with the essays lately Nordip?
Anonymous (20:25:16 - 04-04)
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Nordip at 20:16:42 on 04/04:
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.

To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.

The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.

Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.

Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.

Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.

There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.

We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.

Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.

Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.

There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.

To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.

Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')

Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.

Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".

Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Nordip El Salvador (20:16:42 - 04-04)
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When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.

To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.

The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.

Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.

Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.

Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.

There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.

We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.

Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.

Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.

There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.

To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.

Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
Anonymous (20:14:37 - 04-04)
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counselor at 16:03:57 on 04/04:
The winner will be the family who is #1 at the moment of reset...
agree with it or not...it doesn't really matter
it is what it is

"It is madness
Says reason
It is what it is
says love

It is unhappiness
says caution
It is nothing but pain
says fear
It has no future
says insight
It is what it is
says love
It is ridiculous
says pride
It is foolish
says caution
It is impossible
says experience
It is what it is
says love."

[Erich Fried]

One of my favorite poems though. Thanks for bringing it up. :)
anonymous (19:36:48 - 04-04)
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version over allready, half of the current fam are...dunno wtf they are (= every time when reset is near we can see these "I wanna make a fam with bs name" coming up), half more or less old fams but only few of them has really done something (except died few times)
winner? fide has got good run, no1 can denied it, is temp oldest fam alive atm? I think that also kind of count (only living blood of fide), "last standing/fam #1 when reset is announced" - total bs, hug a lot and shoot late when rest are empty is NOT a way to "win".
Anonymous (19:32:57 - 04-04)
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Fam with most chief+ kills should be winner.
Anonymous (18:56:14 - 04-04)
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turk gay as1 starting again "marazzino = chimaera"
somebody take down those fuckin nuubs
Anonymous (18:36:02 - 04-04)
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umbrella will never be winners
cass Sweden (17:50:47 - 04-04)
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this version was pretty much better then gay version claimed by pentagram
lots of ups and downs for families, and pretty good challenges
its bad that playerbase shrinking day by day, and good versions like this became too short
counselor Canada (16:03:57 - 04-04)
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The winner will be the family who is #1 at the moment of reset...
agree with it or not...it doesn't really matter
it is what it is
Anonymous (15:20:12 - 04-04)
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every fam that contributed to the versions outcome.
without the wars that happened and the outcome of every single one of it, we would have a different status. So we all contributed to whoever wins in the end.
Anonymous (15:13:46 - 04-04)
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Anonymous at 15:09:42 on 04/04:
You can find reasons for almost every single fam why they should be winner.
You can't crown a single fam on their own right now, you always have to include the fams who jumped in in dire need, without these the winner would be someone different.
It doesn't matters who will go into the hall of fame as winner, because you can't win alone.
We are all winners in some kind.

your all means? 3 fams,4 fams,5 fams..... all the fams which are alive?
Anonymous (15:09:42 - 04-04)
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You can find reasons for almost every single fam why they should be winner.
You can't crown a single fam on their own right now, you always have to include the fams who jumped in in dire need, without these the winner would be someone different.
It doesn't matters who will go into the hall of fame as winner, because you can't win alone.
We are all winners in some kind.
Anonymous (14:54:52 - 04-04)
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Soooooootired at 14:14:45 on 04/04:
Versace at 23:59:55 on 03/04:
To everyone who continues to talk about winner of 4.0 version:

There is no 1 single winner, some of you have said Fidelitas or Vittoria or Umbrella today, for ur own various reasons. If 'The Final Stand!' war never took place, Ascension/Signoria would be in a position too strong that you guys could not debate a different families for winner, like to Pentagram a few versions ago. Nobody would be happy with that, but you can't argue with it because of how large they were at the end.

This version is won by the families who rallied together and shot those 2 large families down. They stayed alive and pooled all of their resources together in order to take this family down and open the version back up, since there is no such thing as opening the version back up and people reranking.

Crowning 1 single family as winner would be very difficult for this one. :P


There is no single winner and i agreed. But to say that there is group of fams who claim the to be victor and one is you, is ridiculus. Campania and Vittoria gains respect each day and you guys shoot as much as you can but it wont change the fact. Your fam has no power to gain version. Thats why you acted as sister fam of LS and listened every move which has been said to you.

Lucchese showed their power in this game once more. Showed that they are able to use other fams resources to kill their enemies in the name of Lucchese while their fam is not around. They are able to let LEVI/PROV as the dominant fams who are behind of plans but gain more control on the game while they are watchers.
Lucchese / marazzino/ .... the core fams who were in their side can be winner.
But call fidelitas, vittoria, campania kind of fams as winner is just epical JOKE. Because if there was no LS and their side the others who i mentioned before could not even survive few days.
so kanka anarchy is the winner ? :P
fidelitas winning this version is a joke ? how come ? they're up since the beginning of this version. most of the time they were top 10 fam. if you check sow you will see that they have been involved in most of the big wars.
Anonymous (14:34:36 - 04-04)
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Soooooootired at 14:14:45 on 04/04:
Versace at 23:59:55 on 03/04:
To everyone who continues to talk about winner of 4.0 version:

There is no 1 single winner, some of you have said Fidelitas or Vittoria or Umbrella today, for ur own various reasons. If 'The Final Stand!' war never took place, Ascension/Signoria would be in a position too strong that you guys could not debate a different families for winner, like to Pentagram a few versions ago. Nobody would be happy with that, but you can't argue with it because of how large they were at the end.

This version is won by the families who rallied together and shot those 2 large families down. They stayed alive and pooled all of their resources together in order to take this family down and open the version back up, since there is no such thing as opening the version back up and people reranking.

Crowning 1 single family as winner would be very difficult for this one. :P


There is no single winner and i agreed. But to say that there is group of fams who claim the to be victor and one is you, is ridiculus. Campania and Vittoria gains respect each day and you guys shoot as much as you can but it wont change the fact. Your fam has no power to gain version. Thats why you acted as sister fam of LS and listened every move which has been said to you.

Lucchese showed their power in this game once more. Showed that they are able to use other fams resources to kill their enemies in the name of Lucchese while their fam is not around. They are able to let LEVI/PROV as the dominant fams who are behind of plans but gain more control on the game while they are watchers.
Lucchese / marazzino/ .... the core fams who were in their side can be winner.
But call fidelitas, vittoria, campania kind of fams as winner is just epical JOKE. Because if there was no LS and their side the others who i mentioned before could not even survive few days.

for me it's absolutely hilarious when i think that tops from fidel vittor and campan maybe are reading comments that they aren't the winners of version and lucch is the winner probably they think wtf... :D.
according my opinion that must be painful for them and absolutely funny for me o/
Anonymous (14:32:05 - 04-04)
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Soooooootired at 14:14:45 on 04/04:

There is no single winner and i agreed. But to say that there is group of fams who claim the to be victor and one is you, is ridiculus. Campania and Vittoria gains respect each day and you guys shoot as much as you can but it wont change the fact. Your fam has no power to gain version. Thats why you acted as sister fam of LS and listened every move which has been said to you.

Lucchese showed their power in this game once more. Showed that they are able to use other fams resources to kill their enemies in the name of Lucchese while their fam is not around. They are able to let LEVI/PROV as the dominant fams who are behind of plans but gain more control on the game while they are watchers.
Lucchese / marazzino/ .... the core fams who were in their side can be winner.
But call fidelitas, vittoria, campania kind of fams as winner is just epical JOKE. Because if there was no LS and their side the others who i mentioned before could not even survive few days.

check "No sushi for Fidelitas tonight!" war bro. if that didnt happen, you wouldn't see Luchesse around cuz Gravano co. would gain full control on Blacksea & Ascension side. fidelitas & vittoria was so active when gravano side was up.
Soooooootired (14:14:45 - 04-04)
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Versace at 23:59:55 on 03/04:
To everyone who continues to talk about winner of 4.0 version:

There is no 1 single winner, some of you have said Fidelitas or Vittoria or Umbrella today, for ur own various reasons. If 'The Final Stand!' war never took place, Ascension/Signoria would be in a position too strong that you guys could not debate a different families for winner, like to Pentagram a few versions ago. Nobody would be happy with that, but you can't argue with it because of how large they were at the end.

This version is won by the families who rallied together and shot those 2 large families down. They stayed alive and pooled all of their resources together in order to take this family down and open the version back up, since there is no such thing as opening the version back up and people reranking.

Crowning 1 single family as winner would be very difficult for this one. :P


There is no single winner and i agreed. But to say that there is group of fams who claim the to be victor and one is you, is ridiculus. Campania and Vittoria gains respect each day and you guys shoot as much as you can but it wont change the fact. Your fam has no power to gain version. Thats why you acted as sister fam of LS and listened every move which has been said to you.

Lucchese showed their power in this game once more. Showed that they are able to use other fams resources to kill their enemies in the name of Lucchese while their fam is not around. They are able to let LEVI/PROV as the dominant fams who are behind of plans but gain more control on the game while they are watchers.
Lucchese / marazzino/ .... the core fams who were in their side can be winner.
But call fidelitas, vittoria, campania kind of fams as winner is just epical JOKE. Because if there was no LS and their side the others who i mentioned before could not even survive few days.
Anonymous (13:33:00 - 04-04)
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vittoria & campania gained respect so much. gratz for nice shooting this version
i think winner of version is lucchesse because they have controlled the game even if the fam was dead

late game they are controlling too, umbrella not related to lucch but listening their words. powerhouse is powerhouse, you can't deny they are good enough :)