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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (14:15:11 - 20-01)
all the money is removed
I got a suggestion for this website.
I see numbers next to favicon like (1) (2).
These are number of comments made since I last refreshed the page.
Would be nice to see this next to respective Articles so we know where these new comments were made o/
I see numbers next to favicon like (1) (2).
These are number of comments made since I last refreshed the page.
Would be nice to see this next to respective Articles so we know where these new comments were made o/
Pritalex at 12:54:48 on 20/01:
Just talk to Misshysteria and you'll get the money back, easy as that.
sbanks at 12:47:28 on 20/01:
ye poor guys, what if your money just got stolen from you? its sad, but i didn't expect anything else from these complete retards who are admins on omerta
counselor at 12:43:16 on 20/01:
poor guys......inserts coin
Rebel at 07:27:37 on 20/01:
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
Ozu at 07:18:42 on 20/01:
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
ye poor guys, what if your money just got stolen from you? its sad, but i didn't expect anything else from these complete retards who are admins on omerta
Noticed :D
You have been favored by admin Misshysteria
punished too much money away
Money added: $ 1398045
(15:28:07) <Ozu> also can i ask a question ?
(15:30:50) <~Misshysteria|away> sure
(15:30:57) <Ozu> Misshysteria|away
(15:31:26) <Ozu> what will u do ? there are lots of bug problems
(15:31:36) <Ozu> do u have any plan ?
(15:31:54) <~Misshysteria|away> most of them are fixed now
(15:32:10) <~Misshysteria|away> we worked on it whole morning so :s
punished too much money away
Money added: $ 1398045
(15:28:07) <Ozu> also can i ask a question ?
(15:30:50) <~Misshysteria|away> sure
(15:30:57) <Ozu> Misshysteria|away
(15:31:26) <Ozu> what will u do ? there are lots of bug problems
(15:31:36) <Ozu> do u have any plan ?
(15:31:54) <~Misshysteria|away> most of them are fixed now
(15:32:10) <~Misshysteria|away> we worked on it whole morning so :s
sbanks at 12:47:28 on 20/01:
ye poor guys, what if your money just got stolen from you? its sad, but i didn't expect anything else from these complete retards who are admins on omerta
counselor at 12:43:16 on 20/01:
poor guys......inserts coin
Rebel at 07:27:37 on 20/01:
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
Ozu at 07:18:42 on 20/01:
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
ye poor guys, what if your money just got stolen from you? its sad, but i didn't expect anything else from these complete retards who are admins on omerta
counselor at 12:43:16 on 20/01:
poor guys......inserts coin
Rebel at 07:27:37 on 20/01:
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
Ozu at 07:18:42 on 20/01:
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
ye poor guys, what if your money just got stolen from you? its sad, but i didn't expect anything else from these complete retards who are admins on omerta
Rebel at 07:27:37 on 20/01:
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
Ozu at 07:18:42 on 20/01:
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
Anonymous (12:22:58 - 20-01)
Massblooding at 11:16:54 on 18/01:
Messina
Asone Sith
Bloods:
Tatta (3 fams)
Faffie
Gravano
Connection(2 fams)
Lucchese
Marazzino(3 fams)
Memento
Almost 33% ingame is blooded to Messina
Rip
ISSP (6 fams)
Righelli
Pentagram (4 fams)
Righelli, they were in same channels as attackers when Righelli got killed.
Pentegram, they were in same channel as attackers when Pentagram got killed.
ISPP, they did nothing, and took day later sort of revange, but didnt save anyone of ISPP.
More than 20% of families who died were blooded with Messina, and they did nothing.
Ones you were a respected family, playing your own style something like"No one likes us, we dont care". At this moment you arent a little better as massblooder Pentagram was prev version.
You guys will be up till the end of version, and will be version "winners", hope you can be proud even playing with this massblooding straticy.
I'm reranking, no Messina didnt shot me so no back hurt, this version is more open than ever.
:w
Messina
Asone Sith
Bloods:
Tatta (3 fams)
Faffie
Gravano
Connection(2 fams)
Lucchese
Marazzino(3 fams)
Memento
Almost 33% ingame is blooded to Messina
Rip
ISSP (6 fams)
Righelli
Pentagram (4 fams)
Righelli, they were in same channels as attackers when Righelli got killed.
Pentegram, they were in same channel as attackers when Pentagram got killed.
ISPP, they did nothing, and took day later sort of revange, but didnt save anyone of ISPP.
More than 20% of families who died were blooded with Messina, and they did nothing.
Ones you were a respected family, playing your own style something like"No one likes us, we dont care". At this moment you arent a little better as massblooder Pentagram was prev version.
You guys will be up till the end of version, and will be version "winners", hope you can be proud even playing with this massblooding straticy.
I'm reranking, no Messina didnt shot me so no back hurt, this version is more open than ever.
:w
Wow
Anonymous (12:19:57 - 20-01)
Tattaglia = Loszetas
but not on Tatta fampage :x.... whats that :x
but not on Tatta fampage :x.... whats that :x
Ozu at 07:18:42 on 20/01:
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Same here instead of removing the money recieved she just removed all so also my own 1.5 million that was on the bank
Last 30 transfers received
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
From: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Rodrigo $45,000,000 20-01-2013 01:37:14 none
You were punished by Misshysteria:
Reason: cheat money
Money removed: $ 46,398,045
Money from bank removed: $ 0
Rankpoints removed: 0
Honour points removed: 0
Bullets removed: 0
Lackey Credits removed: 0
SMS Credits removed: 0
its fucking 45 m not 46.398
Anonymous (02:31:27 - 20-01)
Hahaha classic bugmerta xd
Fenerbahçe! (02:18:21 - 20-01)
To: Amount: Time: Transfer detail
Fernandoxx $50,000,000 20-01-2013 02:00:58 none
Fernandoxx $7,000,000 20-01-2013 02:00:38 none
Giuseppe $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:59:12 none
Munazaraci $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:24 none
Jezivi $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:15 none
Meloberto $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:08 none
Sephidi $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:02 none
Kenny $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:55 none
Yanni $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:50 none
Srbin $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:45 none
Inna $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:40 none
Provenzano $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:35 none
Castro $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:29 none
Diamond $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:22 none
Somun $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:15 none
Drezik $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:03 none
Obey $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:53:57 none
Kentphonik $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:52:10 none
Korotkov $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:45 none
Dutchsoul $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:39 none
Yara $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:30 none
Drara $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:25 none
Ancelotti $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:19 none
Hysteria $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:14 none
Sancho $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:05 none
Kdash $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:58 none
Perqa $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:52 none
Lilmiss $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:46 none
Neversaydie $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:39 none
Wilma $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:34 none
Fernandoxx $50,000,000 20-01-2013 02:00:58 none
Fernandoxx $7,000,000 20-01-2013 02:00:38 none
Giuseppe $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:59:12 none
Munazaraci $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:24 none
Jezivi $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:15 none
Meloberto $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:08 none
Sephidi $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:55:02 none
Kenny $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:55 none
Yanni $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:50 none
Srbin $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:45 none
Inna $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:40 none
Provenzano $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:35 none
Castro $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:29 none
Diamond $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:22 none
Somun $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:15 none
Drezik $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:54:03 none
Obey $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:53:57 none
Kentphonik $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:52:10 none
Korotkov $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:45 none
Dutchsoul $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:39 none
Yara $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:30 none
Drara $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:25 none
Ancelotti $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:19 none
Hysteria $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:14 none
Sancho $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:51:05 none
Kdash $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:58 none
Perqa $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:52 none
Lilmiss $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:46 none
Neversaydie $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:39 none
Wilma $50,000,000 20-01-2013 01:50:34 none
Anonymous (02:08:28 - 20-01)
Rodrigo if you are reading this i fukin love you :D
It´s not about the money, show those noob dev´s some stuff.
Legendary boss mode, much respect _O_
It´s not about the money, show those noob dev´s some stuff.
Legendary boss mode, much respect _O_
Grannqe at 19:56:10 on 19/01:
stop this shit, any rumors?
stop this shit, any rumors?
NAC will win in the 91st minute vs VVV.
Oh that's not a rumour, that's a fact. :D
maddoxx (21:09:16 - 19-01)
something wrong with omerta??i cant log in,anyone with the same problem or just me?
Redspeert at 20:16:31 on 19/01:
I am not calling you dumb ReBorN, as I see you as a friend and a good player. But saying that none of the others knew about the bug accounts is either plane lying or acting dumb.
My guess is that you guys turned the blind eye against it, just overlooking it because it was for the greater good of the fam, I would do that also if anyone in my fam had a bug. But saying that NONE else than the actual buggers knew about it is just hard to belive.
ReBorN at 17:05:30 on 19/01:
Dumb? Ouch, that hurts Redspeert. Let me give you an example of why I didnt realize what was happening:
During the 11-01 war, my account died very early (2nd wave I think). I immediately started a new account. Since I was going to be online for several more hours, and it looked very grim for us, I told everyone to send me the family cash they had (Family Bank, Casino's, etc) so I could fund the shooters throughout the war.
Simply collecting the Family Bank and Casino's, I had 700m. None of that money came from any of the bug abusers. Most of it came from the accounts that are still alive today, our object holders. So when I knew for a fact that our casino's made a ton of money, along with other Tops gambling and winning a ton of money, why would I suspect anything?
Redspeert at 16:36:47 on 19/01:
Well, you gotta be pretty dumb if you don't notice something is weird when your fellow tops send out houndred of mil's that is not coming from objects.
Well, you gotta be pretty dumb if you don't notice something is weird when your fellow tops send out houndred of mil's that is not coming from objects.
Dumb? Ouch, that hurts Redspeert. Let me give you an example of why I didnt realize what was happening:
During the 11-01 war, my account died very early (2nd wave I think). I immediately started a new account. Since I was going to be online for several more hours, and it looked very grim for us, I told everyone to send me the family cash they had (Family Bank, Casino's, etc) so I could fund the shooters throughout the war.
Simply collecting the Family Bank and Casino's, I had 700m. None of that money came from any of the bug abusers. Most of it came from the accounts that are still alive today, our object holders. So when I knew for a fact that our casino's made a ton of money, along with other Tops gambling and winning a ton of money, why would I suspect anything?
I am not calling you dumb ReBorN, as I see you as a friend and a good player. But saying that none of the others knew about the bug accounts is either plane lying or acting dumb.
My guess is that you guys turned the blind eye against it, just overlooking it because it was for the greater good of the fam, I would do that also if anyone in my fam had a bug. But saying that NONE else than the actual buggers knew about it is just hard to belive.
Well, you are calling me dumb because I did not know about the abuse. :p
Likewise, I also consider you a friend and a great player. Like I explained in a previous post, the way they laundered the money did not raise any flags. If you want, PM me on IRC and I can explain a few other things but, I wont here. People either believe me or they dont. Since your a friend, I would love the opportunity to convince you in private. ;)
ReBorN at 17:05:30 on 19/01:
Dumb? Ouch, that hurts Redspeert. Let me give you an example of why I didnt realize what was happening:
During the 11-01 war, my account died very early (2nd wave I think). I immediately started a new account. Since I was going to be online for several more hours, and it looked very grim for us, I told everyone to send me the family cash they had (Family Bank, Casino's, etc) so I could fund the shooters throughout the war.
Simply collecting the Family Bank and Casino's, I had 700m. None of that money came from any of the bug abusers. Most of it came from the accounts that are still alive today, our object holders. So when I knew for a fact that our casino's made a ton of money, along with other Tops gambling and winning a ton of money, why would I suspect anything?
Redspeert at 16:36:47 on 19/01:
Well, you gotta be pretty dumb if you don't notice something is weird when your fellow tops send out houndred of mil's that is not coming from objects.
Well, you gotta be pretty dumb if you don't notice something is weird when your fellow tops send out houndred of mil's that is not coming from objects.
Dumb? Ouch, that hurts Redspeert. Let me give you an example of why I didnt realize what was happening:
During the 11-01 war, my account died very early (2nd wave I think). I immediately started a new account. Since I was going to be online for several more hours, and it looked very grim for us, I told everyone to send me the family cash they had (Family Bank, Casino's, etc) so I could fund the shooters throughout the war.
Simply collecting the Family Bank and Casino's, I had 700m. None of that money came from any of the bug abusers. Most of it came from the accounts that are still alive today, our object holders. So when I knew for a fact that our casino's made a ton of money, along with other Tops gambling and winning a ton of money, why would I suspect anything?
I am not calling you dumb ReBorN, as I see you as a friend and a good player. But saying that none of the others knew about the bug accounts is either plane lying or acting dumb.
My guess is that you guys turned the blind eye against it, just overlooking it because it was for the greater good of the fam, I would do that also if anyone in my fam had a bug. But saying that NONE else than the actual buggers knew about it is just hard to belive.
`Donalo`Sixx at 17:24:44 on 19/01:
I'm not calling you an idiot like you suggest. Of course it is possible you didn't know about the abuses going on but you have to acknowledge that the most likely scenario is that fellow tops of the abuser would have, at least some idea, that something was going on and you cant blame people for reaching that conclusion. It sounds strange to me that you would hide what you were up to from your own tops. If that was the case sounds like there was a serious trust issue inside your top which jeopardised the family you were all working for (downed the fam) and people should be rightfully angry. I can at least say that if someone is cheating in Levi - all Levi tops are gonna know about it.
ReBorN at 16:58:02 on 19/01:
Why do you think this bug was around for so long? Because only a handful of people knew about it. Once too many people find out about it, it will be too widely abused and eventually become "public".
Cmon, your not an idiot, so please dont assume Im one either. When have I ever been proven to be a liar in this game? Ask anyone and they will tell you I always speak the truth. Simply because we are in the same Top doesnt mean they share their exploits with me.
More people cheat in this game then either you or I even realize. Whether its mass duping, scripting or bug abusing. Cheating in this game is rampant! I can guarantee you that some of the very same people you play with claim to be honest players but actually cheat like crazy behind your back!
Through my years in Omerta I have met players that I found to be honorable, stand-up people. Only to find out one or two versions later that they were cheaters. Everyone plays a game here whether it be some dude pretending to be a hot chick or some dirty cheater pretending to be a great player.
You can think what you want about me, I dont care. And of course, you have no way of knowing if Im telling the truth or not. However, why would I sit here and admit the bug was used but deny knowing it existed? What does that get me? Nothing. Yes, some of our Top abused a bug. As honest as I am in that statement, this one is equally honest: Just as many people in our Top was very angry the bug was used, and didnt know the bug was used as there were people in our Top who were using it. Just goes to show, not all of us knew.
And as far as the hundreds of millions that were being spread around, we won a TON of money with our casino's. Italien also won hundreds of millions on poker. So most of it appeared to be legitimate at the time.
Dont assume to know me and dont assume Im an idiot. Like I said, I do not lie in this game. When I give someone my word, I keep it.
Dumb? Ouch, that hurts Redspeert. Let me give you an example of why I didnt realize what was happening:
During the 11-01 war, my account died very early (2nd wave I think). I immediately started a new account. Since I was going to be online for several more hours, and it looked very grim for us, I told everyone to send me the family cash they had (Family Bank, Casino's, etc) so I could fund the shooters throughout the war.
Simply collecting the Family Bank and Casino's, I had 700m. None of that money came from any of the bug abusers. Most of it came from the accounts that are still alive today, our object holders. So when I knew for a fact that our casino's made a ton of money, along with other Tops gambling and winning a ton of money, why would I suspect anything?
`Donalo`Sixx at 16:30:37 on 19/01:
So you didn't think it was strange and ask any questions when your don (and fellow top of Lucchese) continued to produce 100's upon 100's of millions outta thin air? xD SUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE you didnt know :')
So you didn't think it was strange and ask any questions when your don (and fellow top of Lucchese) continued to produce 100's upon 100's of millions outta thin air? xD SUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE you didnt know :')
Why do you think this bug was around for so long? Because only a handful of people knew about it. Once too many people find out about it, it will be too widely abused and eventually become "public".
Cmon, your not an idiot, so please dont assume Im one either. When have I ever been proven to be a liar in this game? Ask anyone and they will tell you I always speak the truth. Simply because we are in the same Top doesnt mean they share their exploits with me.
More people cheat in this game then either you or I even realize. Whether its mass duping, scripting or bug abusing. Cheating in this game is rampant! I can guarantee you that some of the very same people you play with claim to be honest players but actually cheat like crazy behind your back!
Through my years in Omerta I have met players that I found to be honorable, stand-up people. Only to find out one or two versions later that they were cheaters. Everyone plays a game here whether it be some dude pretending to be a hot chick or some dirty cheater pretending to be a great player.
You can think what you want about me, I dont care. And of course, you have no way of knowing if Im telling the truth or not. However, why would I sit here and admit the bug was used but deny knowing it existed? What does that get me? Nothing. Yes, some of our Top abused a bug. As honest as I am in that statement, this one is equally honest: Just as many people in our Top was very angry the bug was used, and didnt know the bug was used as there were people in our Top who were using it. Just goes to show, not all of us knew.
And as far as the hundreds of millions that were being spread around, we won a TON of money with our casino's. Italien also won hundreds of millions on poker. So most of it appeared to be legitimate at the time.
Dont assume to know me and dont assume Im an idiot. Like I said, I do not lie in this game. When I give someone my word, I keep it.
Redspeert at 16:36:47 on 19/01:
Well, you gotta be pretty dumb if you don't notice something is weird when your fellow tops send out houndred of mil's that is not coming from objects.
Well, you gotta be pretty dumb if you don't notice something is weird when your fellow tops send out houndred of mil's that is not coming from objects.
Dumb? Ouch, that hurts Redspeert. Let me give you an example of why I didnt realize what was happening:
During the 11-01 war, my account died very early (2nd wave I think). I immediately started a new account. Since I was going to be online for several more hours, and it looked very grim for us, I told everyone to send me the family cash they had (Family Bank, Casino's, etc) so I could fund the shooters throughout the war.
Simply collecting the Family Bank and Casino's, I had 700m. None of that money came from any of the bug abusers. Most of it came from the accounts that are still alive today, our object holders. So when I knew for a fact that our casino's made a ton of money, along with other Tops gambling and winning a ton of money, why would I suspect anything?
I'm not calling you an idiot like you suggest. Of course it is possible you didn't know about the abuses going on but you have to acknowledge that the most likely scenario is that fellow tops of the abuser would have, at least some idea, that something was going on and you cant blame people for reaching that conclusion. It sounds strange to me that you would hide what you were up to from your own tops. If that was the case sounds like there was a serious trust issue inside your top which jeopardised the family you were all working for (downed the fam) and people should be rightfully angry. I can at least say that if someone is cheating in Levi - all Levi tops are gonna know about it.
Sorry that I drew that conclusion. It just appeared to me that you were suggesting that I should have known or else I was "dumb" like Redspeert subsequently suggested.
Like I tried explaining, the only way to keep a bug like that active is to hide it from as many people as possible. Dont get me wrong, I am angry it took place and intimately downed the family. However, knowing what I know now, I can not say Im angry that they were doing it.
Cheating is an epidemic in this game. When you have thousands of players (most probably dupes) playing a MAFIA game, of course a lot of them will think they are badass and try to cheat. Back in the days of massive scripting, most tops acknowledged that most families had at lease SOME scripters in their family. And today, with bug abuse and dupes (and still some scripters) I think the same is true. To suggest most families play fair is simply delusional. And the simple fact of the matter is, how many akills do we see these days? Maybe .5% of the player base? The admins are failing at their job HARD.
And as far as suggesting trust issues in the Top, that couldnt be further from the truth. The only reason we all keep playing is for each other. Like I said, if you want to keep exploiting bugs like that you have to keep them as secret as possible. I was good friends with Zenga. He scripted for many versions and it was only near the very end before it became publicly obvious that he told me about it.
Bottom line, I trust these Tops 100%. Some cheaters, some fair but, I trust them and I wouldnt want to play with anyone else.