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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (20:28:50 - 13-11)
Anonymous at 20:19:10 on 13/11:
In his first post he said, people blame the pact for pacting while those people that are actually doing the blaming adressed to the pact do the same thing with their 'as-one' if not worse.
Lets be honest, the pact never intended to end a version with over 700 brugliones. Also the so called pact never played a waiting game, not shooting and waiting till everyone is weakened. Anadolu obviously never had a REAL war. The wars they were in, they always took a tiny targets or cleaned up some targets.
Anonymous at 19:58:30 on 13/11:
Edited*
Anonymous at 19:56:30 on 13/11:
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
FlowzZ at 19:32:12 on 13/11:
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Anonymous at 18:52:35 on 13/11:
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
FlowzZ at 18:22:45 on 13/11:
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
Edited*
In his first post he said, people blame the pact for pacting while those people that are actually doing the blaming adressed to the pact do the same thing with their 'as-one' if not worse.
Lets be honest, the pact never intended to end a version with over 700 brugliones. Also the so called pact never played a waiting game, not shooting and waiting till everyone is weakened. Anadolu obviously never had a REAL war. The wars they were in, they always took a tiny targets or cleaned up some targets.
True, pact never played the waiting game. But they hardly got the chance to in the past, since for them it was either shoot or get shot. Anadolu had the luxury to see the two active sides hitting it off. And there wasn't that much left to shoot for turks afterwards. But in terms of blooding I don't see how Anadolu is doing something different to Liberta. And I think it's a bit double standards on flowzz part, to just bash Anadolu and not mentioning Liberta. We all saw Liberta's bloodlist.
There the common response was, not their fault, if families wanted to be their 10th blood.
Either bash both, or remain silent. To exclude Liberta from that criticism because they are Gravano bloods is inconsistent. That's my whole point.
Anonymous (20:19:10 - 13-11)
Anonymous at 19:58:30 on 13/11:
Edited*
Anonymous at 19:56:30 on 13/11:
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
FlowzZ at 19:32:12 on 13/11:
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Anonymous at 18:52:35 on 13/11:
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
FlowzZ at 18:22:45 on 13/11:
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
Edited*
In his first post he said, people blame the pact for pacting while those people that are actually doing the blaming adressed to the pact do the same thing with their 'as-one' if not worse.
Lets be honest, the pact never intended to end a version with over 700 brugliones. Also the so called pact never played a waiting game, not shooting and waiting till everyone is weakened. Anadolu obviously never had a REAL war. The wars they were in, they always took a tiny targets or cleaned up some targets.
Anonymous (20:06:15 - 13-11)
Spartiates bloods are vertigo and ilimitada
Spartiates are revenge of ilimitada
they hired deds on anadolu
now
Spartiates are revenge of ilimitada
they hired deds on anadolu
now
Anonymous (19:58:30 - 13-11)
Anonymous at 19:56:30 on 13/11:
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
FlowzZ at 19:32:12 on 13/11:
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Anonymous at 18:52:35 on 13/11:
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
FlowzZ at 18:22:45 on 13/11:
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
Edited*
Anonymous (19:56:30 - 13-11)
FlowzZ at 19:32:12 on 13/11:
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Anonymous at 18:52:35 on 13/11:
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
FlowzZ at 18:22:45 on 13/11:
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your Liberta as last pact fam, did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
Anonymous at 18:52:35 on 13/11:
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
FlowzZ at 18:22:45 on 13/11:
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Anonymous (18:52:35 - 13-11)
FlowzZ at 18:22:45 on 13/11:
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Anonymous at 18:16:39 on 13/11:
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
Anonymous (18:16:39 - 13-11)
FlowzZ at 18:06:48 on 13/11:
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
poortemp (17:45:53 - 13-11)
Audiowaste at 13:39:09 on 13/11:
Just re-rank instead of whine and shoot with famless accounts.
Just re-rank instead of whine and shoot with famless accounts.
True that, I'm reranking and will just shoot some anadolu people because they are a too big alliance
Anonymous (11:56:53 - 13-11)
now Anadolu and Vogue please finish the game shooting at everyone and claim the round, i did not expect it but nice job _o_.
do not be fools and lose the round ;)
do not be fools and lose the round ;)
Anonymous (11:03:10 - 13-11)
afafarereras at 09:32:33 on 13/11:
so its time for real story :
1. It was leaked that traffi will be shoot today by anadolu and b/y , catania knew about it so to prevent this war they made alliance with trafficante and illimiata .
2. Next they decide to shoot first and take b/y as target
3. Vertigo was asked to help for catania , request was accepted and everything was going smooth until that moment
4. Time is running and vertigo didnt fire up at all , some vertigo tops log off and leave catania to die, In short vertigo fucked catania+++ with making false promise about helping them.
5. Catania or someone else fond out logs between vertigo and b/y ( propably someone more) about killing eachother bloods and closing versy
6. Catania +++ get pissed ask blacksea for ceasefire to shoot Vertigo
7. Everyone bang vertigo
THE END
so its time for real story :
1. It was leaked that traffi will be shoot today by anadolu and b/y , catania knew about it so to prevent this war they made alliance with trafficante and illimiata .
2. Next they decide to shoot first and take b/y as target
3. Vertigo was asked to help for catania , request was accepted and everything was going smooth until that moment
4. Time is running and vertigo didnt fire up at all , some vertigo tops log off and leave catania to die, In short vertigo fucked catania+++ with making false promise about helping them.
5. Catania or someone else fond out logs between vertigo and b/y ( propably someone more) about killing eachother bloods and closing versy
6. Catania +++ get pissed ask blacksea for ceasefire to shoot Vertigo
7. Everyone bang vertigo
THE END
vertigo is still up :D
and next time catania should pick up better bloods now is to l..e ;)
afafarereras (09:32:33 - 13-11)
so its time for real story :
1. It was leaked that traffi will be shoot today by anadolu and b/y , catania knew about it so to prevent this war they made alliance with trafficante and illimiata .
2. Next they decide to shoot first and take b/y as target
3. Vertigo was asked to help for catania , request was accepted and everything was going smooth until that moment
4. Time is running and vertigo didnt fire up at all , some vertigo tops log off and leave catania to die, In short vertigo fucked catania+++ with making false promise about helping them.
5. Catania or someone else fond out logs between vertigo and b/y ( propably someone more) about killing eachother bloods and closing versy
6. Catania +++ get pissed ask blacksea for ceasefire to shoot Vertigo
7. Everyone bang vertigo
THE END
1. It was leaked that traffi will be shoot today by anadolu and b/y , catania knew about it so to prevent this war they made alliance with trafficante and illimiata .
2. Next they decide to shoot first and take b/y as target
3. Vertigo was asked to help for catania , request was accepted and everything was going smooth until that moment
4. Time is running and vertigo didnt fire up at all , some vertigo tops log off and leave catania to die, In short vertigo fucked catania+++ with making false promise about helping them.
5. Catania or someone else fond out logs between vertigo and b/y ( propably someone more) about killing eachother bloods and closing versy
6. Catania +++ get pissed ask blacksea for ceasefire to shoot Vertigo
7. Everyone bang vertigo
THE END
Anonymous (07:50:58 - 13-11)
Anonymous at 22:46:12 on 12/11:
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
So sad
Anonymous (02:16:57 - 13-11)
Anonymous at 23:44:33 on 12/11:
They already wanted to close the version with 300 brugs. ;) They didn't even have a proper war :P Only shot in 1 big war in which they jumped in late and picked of some leftovers :P
But they won the version already by just doing.... NOTHING :D
Anonymous at 22:46:12 on 12/11:
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
They already wanted to close the version with 300 brugs. ;) They didn't even have a proper war :P Only shot in 1 big war in which they jumped in late and picked of some leftovers :P
But they won the version already by just doing.... NOTHING :D
That's how x-zone claimed their version wins.
Anonymous (23:44:33 - 12-11)
Anonymous at 22:46:12 on 12/11:
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
They already wanted to close the version with 300 brugs. ;) They didn't even have a proper war :P Only shot in 1 big war in which they jumped in late and picked of some leftovers :P
But they won the version already by just doing.... NOTHING :D
Anonymous (22:46:12 - 12-11)
Vogue/Ocean/Anadolu/Aequitas/Samyo/Hammerfall, incredible
funny to see how every version , u have the same people blame others for 'pacting' then u see a bunch of other turkish fams who rarely shoot until some certain point in this game (no racism involved) adding some other existing families on their alliance ([sarcasm]not pacting its asoneing , know the difference[/sarcasm] ) , thank god for the KA of this vers else we wouldnt even see these kills that are happening now either .
but i can deal with the asone thing , happened all the time , its doable ok , but there is just no explanation on how lame this game is being played when u see omerta low lifers makin non shooting deals the very same night the shooting is happening , in past shootings have stopped due to both sides not having bullets to finish each other and that process even went without talks , or even when non shootings happened it was after war when things were chill .
the content of this comment is not flaming or anything , just hopefully educating for certain poor people.
Well can you tell me the excact difference between what those Turkish fams are doing now, and what your (turkish) bloods Liberta did, with their 15+ fams blood list?
at least they added people on bloodlist instead of their asone list (kinky uhh) , but no im not justifying their actions nor talking about them , im not responsible for their actions , but can u tell me an example when lib or my fam started shootin a fam and asked nonshoot same night?
You didn't, but that wasn't the point in your criticism I was addressing.
I was addressing your as-one vs. pacting stance. And asked you to point out the difference between making all Turkish fams around as-one (Turkuz) or just add any fam that could not hide fast enough as blood (Liberta with their 15 bloods).
Liberta + Ocean + Perpetua as opposed to Aequitas , vogue , anadolu , ocean, hammerfall , samyo hmm i would say quite some difference not to mention the whole blacksea aliance being with them , but i'd refer to something i said earlier which im sure u didnt pay much attention to that word , im talking about "existing" , meaning those fams were already playing on their own before they got recruited by some alliance also different from creating a sis fam from your members , hell if that before was called pacting this is doing asone and pacting = mind blown. but you are turning this into a liberta debate in here which im not interested in participating , my fam is grav and i see the game from that perspective , and that doesnt support the action of blooding too many people ( im talking about the normal standards ) or directly shooting a family and stopping the shooting and asking them for bloods that night .
Objectively you complain about them closing the version by as-oneing (making them untouchable). Liberta did not as one them (well they just blooded (almost) half the server). That their as-one ocean left sold them out was funny. So atm I don't make any distinction between those turkish version of as-one or bloods - classical as one is with same tops etc. I don't see that happening with those Turkish as ones. So those as-ones are rather bloods or pacts. But since you dislike the word, I stick with the word bloods. I just pointed out, that your bloods didn't do anything different in my book. They just labeled them bloods not as-ones. And if you complain about that Turkuz as-one faggotry, you ought to complain about your blood Liberta as last pact fam, too. They did the same.
As for Gravano, you are aware, that even fams Gravano was not blooded to jumped for you? Which resulted in half the server being unable to bring you down, before Vertigo sold you out. Before this goes a bit offtopic, this is not about Gravano and other fams jumping for them, I guess we can agree on that. But, you complain about double standards, of Turks crying about you pacting while they are doing as-oneing now. Which makes it look kinda doublestandard to me, too.
Edited*
In his first post he said, people blame the pact for pacting while those people that are actually doing the blaming adressed to the pact do the same thing with their 'as-one' if not worse.
Lets be honest, the pact never intended to end a version with over 700 brugliones. Also the so called pact never played a waiting game, not shooting and waiting till everyone is weakened. Anadolu obviously never had a REAL war. The wars they were in, they always took a tiny targets or cleaned up some targets.
True, pact never played the waiting game. But they hardly got the chance to in the past, since for them it was either shoot or get shot. Anadolu had the luxury to see the two active sides hitting it off. And there wasn't that much left to shoot for turks afterwards. But in terms of blooding I don't see how Anadolu is doing something different to Liberta. And I think it's a bit double standards on flowzz part, to just bash Anadolu and not mentioning Liberta. We all saw Liberta's bloodlist.
There the common response was, not their fault, if families wanted to be their 10th blood.
Either bash both, or remain silent. To exclude Liberta from that criticism because they are Gravano bloods is inconsistent. That's my whole point.
My apologies if that upset you.