Wow Johnny multiple posts over consecutive days....Time for a comeback? What elo are you btw since I read somewhere you play lol?

This isn't true

1st of all ''Affis'' never joined pact, Vincitori blooded Conflict for 1st time in 3.2 and even then we worried about Righelli and pretty much wanted em dead, but shooting them 1st would simply be retarded on every tactical aspect. Even if we had no real enemies that version and some of fams who would shoot us later we considered friends, at some points we trusted those more than Conflict, cause Conflict had weird bloods list.
We wanted Righelli dead, but not so damn much to kill them asap, also I was sure sooner or later they will do something stupid cause as I stated before I thought they hate us. We agreed with Conflict they wont shoot Marangello and we wont shoot Righelli unless it is needed, and shooting wont happen vice versa. Then Righelli shot us with some other families which resulted in all of us dying.

Righelli didn't shoot us only in 3.3 but they shot our bloods. In the end if reset was not announced we would've shot Righelli.

After all those years you still can't forget the pain in your ass, can you? I can't explain your hate towards righelli otherwise. I know in what wars i shot against those fams that you claimed we did nothing. And alkyoni is a ver dear friend for whole righelli, her shooting at righelli wouldnt change that, just as cocain in your side :) you guys taking this game more serious than it is supposed to be. Hate blindfolds you.

In some cases i think it's offensive to mongols tbh :D .

what are you guys talking about ? Righelli shot Liberta 2 versions ago, cause Liberta shot their bloods, so Righelli did exactly that... Haters gonna hate...

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He's not in SH,
nice try tho :^

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So how come you never shot one of the non-blooded fams after the version was locked in order to clearly win it just with your bloods? :|

I like putting her on the kitchen sink.

Hubba hubba

We have never been in any pact in a real meaning anyway. Conflict were our best bloods and we had only few bloods along our omerta history ( they all are close to us, nuevitas, lucchese, squad, fumatore, curse, illusion... ), conflict were the reason why we stood up together with the so called "pact". What Pact meant to Righelli was like, what bloods and allies used to mean in old days, we would shoot and move along with you guys for now, you are not our prior targets but if it is necessary to shoot you to win, then we do. So, if a pact fam would kill one of our bloods or they would be on our way, we would shoot any of those pact fams except conflict and lucchese.

To explain you what pact is, i will use some metaphors. There is SKY above you and a Cloud which is taking up a lot of room in there. Planes are passing through Cloud, planes change, different planes come and go but the cloud remains. That is what the pact is. Pact is not A fam, B fam, C fam. There will always be a pact in this game because there will be people to hold power and they think that the best way to do that is togather most families. Even in real life that is same, mafia families are forming cartels. I never liked the idea of PACT, Johnny called us haters but that is not the case, if only he knew our motivations to shoot vincitori or affinitas in all those versions, he would clearly see that it was everything but hate, which dragged us to shoot at them. Our no 1 motivation in this game is to win and to win the game we think is the 1st thing you should focus on stay alive and eliminate the strongest opponents, not to blood them, nor to get on good terms with them. That was what we have done, never regretted. And we are the asocial family of this game, we haven't met much people in this game, we only knew a few people and got on good terms with those people and with their families. I listed those families on above and that is the reason why we always picked same bloods in every version we played, our reason wasn't to form a pact or anything like that, we just knew those fams. I wrote alot.

take care and have fun :P

Best regards,

SheLL

[11:09] <VeroAfk> delete
[11:09] <VeroAfk> im serious
[11:10] <VeroAfk> now ure pissing me off
[11:10] <PannaJunk> :(

Righelli was indeed blacksheep of pact, not much of the ppl liked them :(

Are we haters ? Now, that is heartbreaking !

Seriously, nobody here thinks the "Mongello" part was offensive to us Marangello people :( and the whatever name is Vaffanculo :@

It's funny how you people talk about this really...

1st of all at start of version I had no idea who Monte Carlo is, for sure it's not Vincitori or whatever you people call it. Vincitori is retired and there is 99% chance it will stay retired pretty much forever cause tops who managed Vinci from 2.9-3.0 moved on away from game. Trenzo, Joellin, asli, Lovendetta, Vapura, me etc. are all retired and there pretty much every story of Vincitori you all loved to hate ends. I know good enough that no one of these people plans to return to game and play cause everyone is busy doing something else. You can all talk about Vinci being hidden or changing names or whatever but only truth is Vincitori as family is not playing anymore. Ofc with player base Vinci had and all friendships and trust people got with each other inside Vinci it is most likely they will join new (different) families together or play together. As I stated up Vincitori you all loved to hate is pretty much gone forever, you can breath safely now and lower down ur pitchforks for witch hunt...

Original pact?
Wanna talk about pacts, I'll tell you all what original pact was. It was Kerberos - Vincitori in 2.9 where I personally realized how strong relation u can build with only trust to one family. All this pacting and shit you all talk about comes mostly from 3.0 where Vaffanculo blooded Kerberos Vincitori and Gravano, we had no idea really who Vaffanculo is nor can we trusted them on start but we risked it and it turned out better than we ever expected. When you are winning and dominating version things change so did relationships between family.
Pact is not between families, it's between people and it's not even a pact, it's bond with trust and friendship... I wont overreact when I say I never really talked to anyone from Conflict about plans except with Rbaiao and eviL, manhell from Gravano, Bazjuuh and Vincej from Vaffanculo, MafiaTurk, SiN and Phenky from Liberta...
That's where your pact is, cause these people stood by their word given and did not try to break it, or abuse it they played open and built trust. That's what 90% of families lack... They all are run by fear, and they talk/do anything in order to survive. Your word as family top is most valuable thing you can have and trust to build and be sure not to break it easily. You can make games, and twist words and shit but be sure that in the end all of that will backfire on you and only people who you were true with will stay with you.

For all the time you guys talked about Conflict - Vinci - Righelli pact, hell I barely even knew Righelli guys, did I want to shoot them, yes pretty fucking bad cause imo they're pretty much haters of family for whom I used to play, but it was never my priority. When we played, we played to win, we didn't try to make enemies every step of the way, but we did. However it's really ironic how you people cry about pacts and shit when maybe 5% of you so called tops have real idea what's going on in game. Most of tops these days are nothing but jokes, who can't do shit but either gather group of rankers or rank fast. Half of you doesn't deserve any respect, or even family up.

This game is left with not more than a few real tops who know how to play, and most of those tops are on same side, it's not pact problem... Problem is all of you, problem is even before so called "pact" was formed families were still doing same shit. Before 3.2 lets wait for Affi and Conflict to kill each other so we can kill whoever survives, if we don't succeed well pretty fucking bad will wait till reset comes. After Conf and Affi stopped killing each other, it was like we need to kill one of those two or we will die.
To tell you truth, you (Violenza, Leviticus, Gambino, Bruinsma, Tempestuoso, Kurosawa and many more) created this. Bond that these families built was created in 3.2 when you made prolly stupidest decision in last few version. That 1 war created trust and bond that was very fragile at those days between Conflict and us, and from there it was easier to do everything.
I know, we made same mistake back in 2.7 when Affinitas and Conflict etc. were enemies, every time we would fight them, they would get closer and there for stronger.

Families who blood family close to pact, just fucking realized that there are very damn few trustworthy families in this game, and they would rather work with those who they can trust then get headaches with bunch of joker families.

Frankly I feel proud of what I and few others created when I see how much you cry and simply don't understand basics of this game. And for all of you who talk about other families trying to join pact, no one is trying to join it, there is no way to join it... I wrote to you in this wall of text what pact is, be smart and create one yourself or break it, but brute force isn't right tool for that... But I seriously doubt most of you are capable of that. You need to be ready to lose in order to win.

Die Redspeert die :')

I guess it's Psychonymous on Cristeria

krays was nottes blood right? Pentagram shot Notte, right?...I mean...

war cristeria