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General Comments & Major Rumors section.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Downhilll (01:24:00 - 22-05)
The most funny part of all is that a few versions back everyone were flaming on scripters. Now everyone is using Lackeys and just hanging "around" on Irc what completly ruined the game.
Maybe Brando bought enough dc's with omerta money. And laughing his ass off when he see his bankaccount
So its a win win situation. Barafranca died from the wounds Brando have inflicted. He's swimming with the fishes now. Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
Maybe Brando bought enough dc's with omerta money. And laughing his ass off when he see his bankaccount
So its a win win situation. Barafranca died from the wounds Brando have inflicted. He's swimming with the fishes now. Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
Oops forgot to login on my reply to the general yamas post.
Feel free to flame me /q mcgee
What did I do this version? Stood away from pact and lost lmao trolololol
Don't ever blame admins for this games grief...blame the people who lick ass
Why would anyone log into a mafia game to spend their time licking ass I have no idea...just never knew why
Wait a minute... I think its cause I get erections
Same story every version...last one is better even though this one promised more shooting,
As far as people using the excuse of dying like sitting ducks..."im busy in rl we all are"... then don't make a fucking account and waste space or shoot first and fucking leave.
Feel free to flame me /q mcgee
What did I do this version? Stood away from pact and lost lmao trolololol
Don't ever blame admins for this games grief...blame the people who lick ass
Why would anyone log into a mafia game to spend their time licking ass I have no idea...just never knew why
Wait a minute... I think its cause I get erections
Same story every version...last one is better even though this one promised more shooting,
As far as people using the excuse of dying like sitting ducks..."im busy in rl we all are"... then don't make a fucking account and waste space or shoot first and fucking leave.
Anonymous (22:08:16 - 21-05)
yamaguchi at 19:23:51 on 21/05:
who left except the pact? you think vertigo purgatory kills whole pact? also imo purga trying to be neutral to pact via righelli referance.. but it wont work ofc
the problem is pacts bloodship policy, game has no meaning with that, its not crying its a fact.. At start we have to gather whole game and that way is impossible, you are trying to gather nonblood families against great linked blood families.. After lackeys it doesnt hurt much also i didnt click single time to any crime or anything else but bullshiting here still fun.. die pact! :)
who left except the pact? you think vertigo purgatory kills whole pact? also imo purga trying to be neutral to pact via righelli referance.. but it wont work ofc
the problem is pacts bloodship policy, game has no meaning with that, its not crying its a fact.. At start we have to gather whole game and that way is impossible, you are trying to gather nonblood families against great linked blood families.. After lackeys it doesnt hurt much also i didnt click single time to any crime or anything else but bullshiting here still fun.. die pact! :)
Agreed. Play call of duty black ops with 900 People vs 50...doesn't seem fun to me.
Version locked shows over folks...no version winner this time.
Nice war lorigia vs Rochester... did you guys like that? It was one on one regardless of the reason....
Lorigia shot first and walked away as a winner...hmm maybe they are version winners...discuss
lolmerta (20:32:55 - 21-05)
Revolucion at 20:13:47 on 21/05:
We rock :D
lampre at 19:39:59 on 21/05:
Vincitori/Affinitas/Infezione/Conflict/Armada/
Vigilantia/Caliente/Memento/
Righelli/Venutti/Lucchese/Bruinsma/
Purgatory/Vertigo/Samagono/Sindikat/
This is the famous pact???
Vincitori/Affinitas/Infezione/Conflict/Armada/
Vigilantia/Caliente/Memento/
Righelli/Venutti/Lucchese/Bruinsma/
Purgatory/Vertigo/Samagono/Sindikat/
This is the famous pact???
We rock :D
Affinitas, Armada, Bruinsma, Caliente,
Conflict, Infezione, Lucchese, Memento,
Righelli, Samagono, Sindikat, Vincitori.
<->
Syndrum
You sucks ;)
lampre at 19:39:59 on 21/05:
Vincitori/Affinitas/Infezione/Conflict/Armada/
Vigilantia/Caliente/Memento/
Righelli/Venutti/Lucchese/Bruinsma/
Purgatory/Vertigo/Samagono/Sindikat/
This is the famous pact???
Vincitori/Affinitas/Infezione/Conflict/Armada/
Vigilantia/Caliente/Memento/
Righelli/Venutti/Lucchese/Bruinsma/
Purgatory/Vertigo/Samagono/Sindikat/
This is the famous pact???
We rock :D
lampre (19:39:59 - 21-05)
Vincitori/Affinitas/Infezione/Conflict/Armada/
Vigilantia/Caliente/Memento/
Righelli/Venutti/Lucchese/Bruinsma/
Purgatory/Vertigo/Samagono/Sindikat/
This is the famous pact???
Vigilantia/Caliente/Memento/
Righelli/Venutti/Lucchese/Bruinsma/
Purgatory/Vertigo/Samagono/Sindikat/
This is the famous pact???
lampre (19:30:28 - 21-05)
no neutral fams imo , pact is the one and only , they let samagono/memento/sindikat to get in from this version thanks to conflict , as i am not sure they will survive , anyway , the pact everyone knows wich fams are so i think no more new fams will let come in the club , so for the others the best is try to reset the game suiciding on the pact , or we have to wait 2 months of no game to force the reset by some pool ?
who left except the pact? you think vertigo purgatory kills whole pact? also imo purga trying to be neutral to pact via righelli referance.. but it wont work ofc
the problem is pacts bloodship policy, game has no meaning with that, its not crying its a fact.. At start we have to gather whole game and that way is impossible, you are trying to gather nonblood families against great linked blood families.. After lackeys it doesnt hurt much also i didnt click single time to any crime or anything else but bullshiting here still fun.. die pact! :)
the problem is pacts bloodship policy, game has no meaning with that, its not crying its a fact.. At start we have to gather whole game and that way is impossible, you are trying to gather nonblood families against great linked blood families.. After lackeys it doesnt hurt much also i didnt click single time to any crime or anything else but bullshiting here still fun.. die pact! :)
lampre (19:18:35 - 21-05)
what small medium and big fams not in the pact are waiting for ?
Anonymous (19:15:04 - 21-05)
wait wait wait purga and vertigo :D :D
Vstel at 18:21:21 on 21/05:
lol hacker
hacker at 18:03:01 on 21/05:
well done admins u fucked up with the server and u made people believe that is DDOS attack ... and the worst senario people believe it !!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
rip all who died ... and phenky dont forget the stars next version ... some people see them and go crazy from theyr envy !!!!
well done admins u fucked up with the server and u made people believe that is DDOS attack ... and the worst senario people believe it !!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
rip all who died ... and phenky dont forget the stars next version ... some people see them and go crazy from theyr envy !!!!
lol hacker
vstellll my friend _o_
axxaaxaxxaxaxaxa
ó compatriotas quanto mais responderes e argumentares..mais a historia vai parecer verdade...
hacker at 18:03:01 on 21/05:
well done admins u fucked up with the server and u made people believe that is DDOS attack ... and the worst senario people believe it !!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
rip all who died ... and phenky dont forget the stars next version ... some people see them and go crazy from theyr envy !!!!
well done admins u fucked up with the server and u made people believe that is DDOS attack ... and the worst senario people believe it !!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
rip all who died ... and phenky dont forget the stars next version ... some people see them and go crazy from theyr envy !!!!
lol hacker
Anonymous (18:11:17 - 21-05)
The game went down in the EXACT same way the day BEFORE that war.
I didn't hear the admins about DDOS back then.
They are plain and simply lying.
I didn't hear the admins about DDOS back then.
They are plain and simply lying.
well done admins u fucked up with the server and u made people believe that is DDOS attack ... and the worst senario people believe it !!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
rip all who died ... and phenky dont forget the stars next version ... some people see them and go crazy from theyr envy !!!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein
rip all who died ... and phenky dont forget the stars next version ... some people see them and go crazy from theyr envy !!!!
Anonymous at 14:52:08 on 21/05:
Have they ever felt the necessity to make up a DDos attack, when the server failed in the past?
That's where your argumentation falls apart. There have been server fails in the past, and they have never made up a DDos attack, they posted some half assed apology: "We are sorry."
So why would they start just now? If you can give a convincing point, why they would start lamenting server got DDosed now, while they never did not do that in the past, then your points gains validity.
About Bramble not coming forward with further information. Do you think the person who did it, actually has the balls and come forward to the crew? Do you think, they have the skills to track down the source to some .pt IP? Do you think, if they did hand over the file to the police, they are bothered enough to create a task force, to track down that poor fellow, who DDosed the almighty Omerta Ltd. company?
And yes, I saw some logs from Lucchese's and Messina's war chan, so I know you were hit equally by surprise.
And after all I heard, there are some logs that incriminate somebody in Conflict heavily. (To answer eviL's question). And of course those logs are all forged to put the blame on the mighty conflict...
ReBorN at 14:33:45 on 21/05:
Thats the whole reason why I said "alleged".
No matter how you spin it, the reason the war failed was not because of the "alleged" DDOS attack. Ill concede that the downtime hurt the attackers more then the defenders ... but not as much as you tell yourself at night. The defenders had already started shooting back and the kills were close to equal when Omerta went down. Also, there was no massive defender strike when the servers came back up ... again, the kills continued to remain equal. I can tell you with 100% certainty, Lucchese got fucked because of the downtime.
Of course the admins have every reason to lie about the downtime. Whats a more likely excuse for a business trying to generate money? A) A mysterious attack occurred causing high tech and top of the line equipment to crash, or B) The servers couldnt handle the load of a massive war coupled with 9 pages of code in the KA.
Why would the admins not adopt the popular theory to push blame off themselves? Bramblerose promised more information on the "DDOS attack" ... hows that working out for you? Wheres your big investigation and information on those responsible?
Anonymous at 14:19:40 on 21/05:
Remove the "alleged". It still implies there was no DDos.
I know, crew consists to huge part of liars, but here lying about the DDos make no sense at all, no matter how often you tell that yourself.
If it was a simple server fail (like we had so often in the past), why would the crew this time make up some DDos attack? They have no reason whatsoever to make it up. And again, thank conflict, their action made that "excuse" possible. But if that keeps your boat floating, keep on believing in the big admin conspiracy, and also Teckna was the mastermind behind 9/11...
ReBorN at 13:59:00 on 21/05:
Lol, fail0rz always looking for someone to blame.
Look at the first 15 minutes of that war compared to the first 15 minutes of each of the 3 wars last night and youll see that the (alleged) DDOS attack had nothing to do with that fail.
One side always wins for the same reason the other side always losses ... organization and execution.
Anonymous at 13:43:14 on 21/05:
So you say. But the plain and simple truth is, neither of us knows, what would have happened without the DDos. I think it made quite a big difference. You disagree.
You can thank Conflict for giving attackers that excuse. And it leaves some stains on pacts victory of this version. Again, you can thank Conflict for that.
ElMariachi at 13:24:21 on 21/05:
about that ddos: try checking out 1st wave kills of that war and then compair it to yesterdays, notice the difference? Sure it prolly had some influence on the war, but other than that it's just a bad excuse for a bad executed war ...
about that ddos: try checking out 1st wave kills of that war and then compair it to yesterdays, notice the difference? Sure it prolly had some influence on the war, but other than that it's just a bad excuse for a bad executed war ...
So you say. But the plain and simple truth is, neither of us knows, what would have happened without the DDos. I think it made quite a big difference. You disagree.
You can thank Conflict for giving attackers that excuse. And it leaves some stains on pacts victory of this version. Again, you can thank Conflict for that.
Lol, fail0rz always looking for someone to blame.
Look at the first 15 minutes of that war compared to the first 15 minutes of each of the 3 wars last night and youll see that the (alleged) DDOS attack had nothing to do with that fail.
One side always wins for the same reason the other side always losses ... organization and execution.
Remove the "alleged". It still implies there was no DDos.
I know, crew consists to huge part of liars, but here lying about the DDos make no sense at all, no matter how often you tell that yourself.
If it was a simple server fail (like we had so often in the past), why would the crew this time make up some DDos attack? They have no reason whatsoever to make it up. And again, thank conflict, their action made that "excuse" possible. But if that keeps your boat floating, keep on believing in the big admin conspiracy, and also Teckna was the mastermind behind 9/11...
Thats the whole reason why I said "alleged".
No matter how you spin it, the reason the war failed was not because of the "alleged" DDOS attack. Ill concede that the downtime hurt the attackers more then the defenders ... but not as much as you tell yourself at night. The defenders had already started shooting back and the kills were close to equal when Omerta went down. Also, there was no massive defender strike when the servers came back up ... again, the kills continued to remain equal. I can tell you with 100% certainty, Lucchese got fucked because of the downtime.
Of course the admins have every reason to lie about the downtime. Whats a more likely excuse for a business trying to generate money? A) A mysterious attack occurred causing high tech and top of the line equipment to crash, or B) The servers couldnt handle the load of a massive war coupled with 9 pages of code in the KA.
Why would the admins not adopt the popular theory to push blame off themselves? Bramblerose promised more information on the "DDOS attack" ... hows that working out for you? Wheres your big investigation and information on those responsible?
Have they ever felt the necessity to make up a DDos attack, when the server failed in the past?
That's where your argumentation falls apart. There have been server fails in the past, and they have never made up a DDos attack, they posted some half assed apology: "We are sorry."
So why would they start just now? If you can give a convincing point, why they would start lamenting server got DDosed now, while they never did not do that in the past, then your points gains validity.
About Bramble not coming forward with further information. Do you think the person who did it, actually has the balls and come forward to the crew? Do you think, they have the skills to track down the source to some .pt IP? Do you think, if they did hand over the file to the police, they are bothered enough to create a task force, to track down that poor fellow, who DDosed the almighty Omerta Ltd. company?
And yes, I saw some logs from Lucchese's and Messina's war chan, so I know you were hit equally by surprise.
And after all I heard, there are some logs that incriminate somebody in Conflict heavily. (To answer eviL's question). And of course those logs are all forged to put the blame on the mighty conflict...
Then show us those logs, we has Conflict and i bet all players community want to see those and ask for a ban of that user or group of users from the game.
Anonymous (14:52:08 - 21-05)
ReBorN at 14:33:45 on 21/05:
Thats the whole reason why I said "alleged".
No matter how you spin it, the reason the war failed was not because of the "alleged" DDOS attack. Ill concede that the downtime hurt the attackers more then the defenders ... but not as much as you tell yourself at night. The defenders had already started shooting back and the kills were close to equal when Omerta went down. Also, there was no massive defender strike when the servers came back up ... again, the kills continued to remain equal. I can tell you with 100% certainty, Lucchese got fucked because of the downtime.
Of course the admins have every reason to lie about the downtime. Whats a more likely excuse for a business trying to generate money? A) A mysterious attack occurred causing high tech and top of the line equipment to crash, or B) The servers couldnt handle the load of a massive war coupled with 9 pages of code in the KA.
Why would the admins not adopt the popular theory to push blame off themselves? Bramblerose promised more information on the "DDOS attack" ... hows that working out for you? Wheres your big investigation and information on those responsible?
Anonymous at 14:19:40 on 21/05:
Remove the "alleged". It still implies there was no DDos.
I know, crew consists to huge part of liars, but here lying about the DDos make no sense at all, no matter how often you tell that yourself.
If it was a simple server fail (like we had so often in the past), why would the crew this time make up some DDos attack? They have no reason whatsoever to make it up. And again, thank conflict, their action made that "excuse" possible. But if that keeps your boat floating, keep on believing in the big admin conspiracy, and also Teckna was the mastermind behind 9/11...
ReBorN at 13:59:00 on 21/05:
Lol, fail0rz always looking for someone to blame.
Look at the first 15 minutes of that war compared to the first 15 minutes of each of the 3 wars last night and youll see that the (alleged) DDOS attack had nothing to do with that fail.
One side always wins for the same reason the other side always losses ... organization and execution.
Anonymous at 13:43:14 on 21/05:
So you say. But the plain and simple truth is, neither of us knows, what would have happened without the DDos. I think it made quite a big difference. You disagree.
You can thank Conflict for giving attackers that excuse. And it leaves some stains on pacts victory of this version. Again, you can thank Conflict for that.
ElMariachi at 13:24:21 on 21/05:
about that ddos: try checking out 1st wave kills of that war and then compair it to yesterdays, notice the difference? Sure it prolly had some influence on the war, but other than that it's just a bad excuse for a bad executed war ...
about that ddos: try checking out 1st wave kills of that war and then compair it to yesterdays, notice the difference? Sure it prolly had some influence on the war, but other than that it's just a bad excuse for a bad executed war ...
So you say. But the plain and simple truth is, neither of us knows, what would have happened without the DDos. I think it made quite a big difference. You disagree.
You can thank Conflict for giving attackers that excuse. And it leaves some stains on pacts victory of this version. Again, you can thank Conflict for that.
Lol, fail0rz always looking for someone to blame.
Look at the first 15 minutes of that war compared to the first 15 minutes of each of the 3 wars last night and youll see that the (alleged) DDOS attack had nothing to do with that fail.
One side always wins for the same reason the other side always losses ... organization and execution.
Remove the "alleged". It still implies there was no DDos.
I know, crew consists to huge part of liars, but here lying about the DDos make no sense at all, no matter how often you tell that yourself.
If it was a simple server fail (like we had so often in the past), why would the crew this time make up some DDos attack? They have no reason whatsoever to make it up. And again, thank conflict, their action made that "excuse" possible. But if that keeps your boat floating, keep on believing in the big admin conspiracy, and also Teckna was the mastermind behind 9/11...
Thats the whole reason why I said "alleged".
No matter how you spin it, the reason the war failed was not because of the "alleged" DDOS attack. Ill concede that the downtime hurt the attackers more then the defenders ... but not as much as you tell yourself at night. The defenders had already started shooting back and the kills were close to equal when Omerta went down. Also, there was no massive defender strike when the servers came back up ... again, the kills continued to remain equal. I can tell you with 100% certainty, Lucchese got fucked because of the downtime.
Of course the admins have every reason to lie about the downtime. Whats a more likely excuse for a business trying to generate money? A) A mysterious attack occurred causing high tech and top of the line equipment to crash, or B) The servers couldnt handle the load of a massive war coupled with 9 pages of code in the KA.
Why would the admins not adopt the popular theory to push blame off themselves? Bramblerose promised more information on the "DDOS attack" ... hows that working out for you? Wheres your big investigation and information on those responsible?
Have they ever felt the necessity to make up a DDos attack, when the server failed in the past?
That's where your argumentation falls apart. There have been server fails in the past, and they have never made up a DDos attack, they posted some half assed apology: "We are sorry."
So why would they start just now? If you can give a convincing point, why they would start lamenting server got DDosed now, while they never did not do that in the past, then your points gains validity.
About Bramble not coming forward with further information. Do you think the person who did it, actually has the balls and come forward to the crew? Do you think, they have the skills to track down the source to some .pt IP? Do you think, if they did hand over the file to the police, they are bothered enough to create a task force, to track down that poor fellow, who DDosed the almighty Omerta Ltd. company?
And yes, I saw some logs from Lucchese's and Messina's war chan, so I know you were hit equally by surprise.
And after all I heard, there are some logs that incriminate somebody in Conflict heavily. (To answer eviL's question). And of course those logs are all forged to put the blame on the mighty conflict...
Anonymous at 14:19:40 on 21/05:
Remove the "alleged". It still implies there was no DDos.
I know, crew consists to huge part of liars, but here lying about the DDos make no sense at all, no matter how often you tell that yourself.
If it was a simple server fail (like we had so often in the past), why would the crew this time make up some DDos attack? They have no reason whatsoever to make it up. And again, thank conflict, their action made that "excuse" possible. But if that keeps your boat floating, keep on believing in the big admin conspiracy, and also Teckna was the mastermind behind 9/11...
ReBorN at 13:59:00 on 21/05:
Lol, fail0rz always looking for someone to blame.
Look at the first 15 minutes of that war compared to the first 15 minutes of each of the 3 wars last night and youll see that the (alleged) DDOS attack had nothing to do with that fail.
One side always wins for the same reason the other side always losses ... organization and execution.
Anonymous at 13:43:14 on 21/05:
So you say. But the plain and simple truth is, neither of us knows, what would have happened without the DDos. I think it made quite a big difference. You disagree.
You can thank Conflict for giving attackers that excuse. And it leaves some stains on pacts victory of this version. Again, you can thank Conflict for that.
ElMariachi at 13:24:21 on 21/05:
about that ddos: try checking out 1st wave kills of that war and then compair it to yesterdays, notice the difference? Sure it prolly had some influence on the war, but other than that it's just a bad excuse for a bad executed war ...
about that ddos: try checking out 1st wave kills of that war and then compair it to yesterdays, notice the difference? Sure it prolly had some influence on the war, but other than that it's just a bad excuse for a bad executed war ...
So you say. But the plain and simple truth is, neither of us knows, what would have happened without the DDos. I think it made quite a big difference. You disagree.
You can thank Conflict for giving attackers that excuse. And it leaves some stains on pacts victory of this version. Again, you can thank Conflict for that.
Lol, fail0rz always looking for someone to blame.
Look at the first 15 minutes of that war compared to the first 15 minutes of each of the 3 wars last night and youll see that the (alleged) DDOS attack had nothing to do with that fail.
One side always wins for the same reason the other side always losses ... organization and execution.
Remove the "alleged". It still implies there was no DDos.
I know, crew consists to huge part of liars, but here lying about the DDos make no sense at all, no matter how often you tell that yourself.
If it was a simple server fail (like we had so often in the past), why would the crew this time make up some DDos attack? They have no reason whatsoever to make it up. And again, thank conflict, their action made that "excuse" possible. But if that keeps your boat floating, keep on believing in the big admin conspiracy, and also Teckna was the mastermind behind 9/11...
Thats the whole reason why I said "alleged".
No matter how you spin it, the reason the war failed was not because of the "alleged" DDOS attack. Ill concede that the downtime hurt the attackers more then the defenders ... but not as much as you tell yourself at night. The defenders had already started shooting back and the kills were close to equal when Omerta went down. Also, there was no massive defender strike when the servers came back up ... again, the kills continued to remain equal. I can tell you with 100% certainty, Lucchese got fucked because of the downtime.
Of course the admins have every reason to lie about the downtime. Whats a more likely excuse for a business trying to generate money? A) A mysterious attack occurred causing high tech and top of the line equipment to crash, or B) The servers couldnt handle the load of a massive war coupled with 9 pages of code in the KA.
Why would the admins not adopt the popular theory to push blame off themselves? Bramblerose promised more information on the "DDOS attack" ... hows that working out for you? Wheres your big investigation and information on those responsible?
The most funny part of all is that a few versions back everyone were flaming on scripters. Now everyone is using Lackeys and just hanging "around" on Irc what completly ruined the game.
Maybe Brando bought enough dc's with omerta money. And laughing his ass off when he see his bankaccount
So its a win win situation. Barafranca died from the wounds Brando have inflicted. He's swimming with the fishes now. Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
Brando made a click game and is successful. Brando has no influence on how people login to roleplay as 1930s gangsters. Brando isn't perfect he's fucked with me before and yet I helped him fix this game. When you people going to wake up and compete on a mafia game and take the focus off admins? Its a fantasy game not a game about text based errors
Im glad Brando makes money off people who purchase lackeys and don't even play. Wouldn't you all do the same?
Remember when coccada hired on an allied shooting fam? That's roleplaying.
Remember when notte came back in one hour and tore apart ilteber? That's roleplaying.
remember when provenzano was hijacked by lso three times in one version? That's roleplaying
Remember city wars? Remember showing respect to your capo?
remember sending crude kill messages? That's roleplaying
Remember when righelli bought out provenzano after issues with liggio? That's roleplaying
What goes on now is people who don't do shit but log in and lackey and forget why they're here and just blame admits.
take a look at yourself and what your motive is here. Dying should be part of your game. Take casino objects; raid objects, grab your dick and go to your tops with war plans; play to exceed! And the hardest part is all the families with this mentality are connected to each other taking advantage of idiots and ass licking families.
Slamming Brando is pointless when you don't even play.
If you don't like pact then quit like me. Or make a fuckng family on your own and shoot them down first like me and my friends tried so many times and failed mostly.
Nuff said.