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General Comments & Major Rumors section.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Impact at 16:32:51 on 28/03:
The REAL winner of this version was Brando for all the DC cash he reeled in.
Anonymous at 14:10:36 on 28/03:
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
The REAL winner of this version was Brando for all the DC cash he reeled in.
well bro i have to disagree with that .. for brando to make more money version should last longer so u could say the pact won ! brando lost this ver !
Impact at 16:32:51 on 28/03:
The REAL winner of this version was Brando for all the DC cash he reeled in.
Anonymous at 14:10:36 on 28/03:
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
The REAL winner of this version was Brando for all the DC cash he reeled in.
+1 Funny
Anonymous at 14:10:36 on 28/03:
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
The REAL winner of this version was Brando for all the DC cash he reeled in.
Anonymous (15:31:06 - 28-03)
scratzin (4h 45m 36s ago)
a post that saying everything
a post that saying everything
Anonymous at 14:59:02 on 28/03:
I really liked reading these last few posts made by tops of the most succesful succesful fams this round. Trying to avoid the word 'winning' because I know Turkuz wins every version ;).
Intresting reading material for me, as i have been playing in an apposing side, who fought them and lost. Intresting material which also raised some questions.
First of all, well played! and congratz for the win. Your politics and bloodscircle has been proven the best and stongest this round.
In elmariachi his post that war, deblooding maraz I missed something. Knowing its not the first time maraz makes a move like that (not killing all targets and move to another fam) they could have known this, so missed him saying it was a poor judgement of us to take them as our bloods. I speculate you only took them as your blood cuz of size and ranks.
Not knowing all the 'pacts' politics and motivations for their moves, i can only comment on the obvious. As Amenta Elmariachi and Scraztin pointed out the lack of the ability to organise against this pact, most likely based on paranoia and hatred towards eachother of these not pact fams resulted in useless suicides by some fams.
But almost as important as the above is what Scratzin pointed out 'Quite a few fams shot for us in that war, while they didn't have to, and could have just as easily let a few of us die. Fams like Hangover/Liberta/Caliente/Presidential. ' Not just in that war, but througout the version fams shot for you and with you. Fams who arent pactfams. Just one example, Labaratory, Syndrum, Correptio helped/shot with you in Yigidos war, but 5 days later they shoot at the pact.
When you keep playing with this pact or bloodcircle, and with the lack of organsation and sense of logic of your enemies, you probably will go on to win the next 5 versions in the same way.
btw the above was just mumbling of a deluted person who knows fuck all about this pact i.e. i have no clue what the role of Bruinsma and Righelli has been this version, but then again who does?
I really liked reading these last few posts made by tops of the most succesful succesful fams this round. Trying to avoid the word 'winning' because I know Turkuz wins every version ;).
Intresting reading material for me, as i have been playing in an apposing side, who fought them and lost. Intresting material which also raised some questions.
First of all, well played! and congratz for the win. Your politics and bloodscircle has been proven the best and stongest this round.
In elmariachi his post that war, deblooding maraz I missed something. Knowing its not the first time maraz makes a move like that (not killing all targets and move to another fam) they could have known this, so missed him saying it was a poor judgement of us to take them as our bloods. I speculate you only took them as your blood cuz of size and ranks.
Not knowing all the 'pacts' politics and motivations for their moves, i can only comment on the obvious. As Amenta Elmariachi and Scraztin pointed out the lack of the ability to organise against this pact, most likely based on paranoia and hatred towards eachother of these not pact fams resulted in useless suicides by some fams.
But almost as important as the above is what Scratzin pointed out 'Quite a few fams shot for us in that war, while they didn't have to, and could have just as easily let a few of us die. Fams like Hangover/Liberta/Caliente/Presidential. ' Not just in that war, but througout the version fams shot for you and with you. Fams who arent pactfams. Just one example, Labaratory, Syndrum, Correptio helped/shot with you in Yigidos war, but 5 days later they shoot at the pact.
When you keep playing with this pact or bloodcircle, and with the lack of organsation and sense of logic of your enemies, you probably will go on to win the next 5 versions in the same way.
btw the above was just mumbling of a deluted person who knows fuck all about this pact i.e. i have no clue what the role of Bruinsma and Righelli has been this version, but then again who does?
Anonymous (14:59:02 - 28-03)
I really liked reading these last few posts made by tops of the most succesful succesful fams this round. Trying to avoid the word 'winning' because I know Turkuz wins every version ;).
Intresting reading material for me, as i have been playing in an apposing side, who fought them and lost. Intresting material which also raised some questions.
First of all, well played! and congratz for the win. Your politics and bloodscircle has been proven the best and stongest this round.
In elmariachi his post that war, deblooding maraz I missed something. Knowing its not the first time maraz makes a move like that (not killing all targets and move to another fam) they could have known this, so missed him saying it was a poor judgement of us to take them as our bloods. I speculate you only took them as your blood cuz of size and ranks.
Not knowing all the 'pacts' politics and motivations for their moves, i can only comment on the obvious. As Amenta Elmariachi and Scraztin pointed out the lack of the ability to organise against this pact, most likely based on paranoia and hatred towards eachother of these not pact fams resulted in useless suicides by some fams.
But almost as important as the above is what Scratzin pointed out 'Quite a few fams shot for us in that war, while they didn't have to, and could have just as easily let a few of us die. Fams like Hangover/Liberta/Caliente/Presidential. ' Not just in that war, but througout the version fams shot for you and with you. Fams who arent pactfams. Just one example, Labaratory, Syndrum, Correptio helped/shot with you in Yigidos war, but 5 days later they shoot at the pact.
When you keep playing with this pact or bloodcircle, and with the lack of organsation and sense of logic of your enemies, you probably will go on to win the next 5 versions in the same way.
btw the above was just mumbling of a deluted person who knows fuck all about this pact i.e. i have no clue what the role of Bruinsma and Righelli has been this version, but then again who does?
Intresting reading material for me, as i have been playing in an apposing side, who fought them and lost. Intresting material which also raised some questions.
First of all, well played! and congratz for the win. Your politics and bloodscircle has been proven the best and stongest this round.
In elmariachi his post that war, deblooding maraz I missed something. Knowing its not the first time maraz makes a move like that (not killing all targets and move to another fam) they could have known this, so missed him saying it was a poor judgement of us to take them as our bloods. I speculate you only took them as your blood cuz of size and ranks.
Not knowing all the 'pacts' politics and motivations for their moves, i can only comment on the obvious. As Amenta Elmariachi and Scraztin pointed out the lack of the ability to organise against this pact, most likely based on paranoia and hatred towards eachother of these not pact fams resulted in useless suicides by some fams.
But almost as important as the above is what Scratzin pointed out 'Quite a few fams shot for us in that war, while they didn't have to, and could have just as easily let a few of us die. Fams like Hangover/Liberta/Caliente/Presidential. ' Not just in that war, but througout the version fams shot for you and with you. Fams who arent pactfams. Just one example, Labaratory, Syndrum, Correptio helped/shot with you in Yigidos war, but 5 days later they shoot at the pact.
When you keep playing with this pact or bloodcircle, and with the lack of organsation and sense of logic of your enemies, you probably will go on to win the next 5 versions in the same way.
btw the above was just mumbling of a deluted person who knows fuck all about this pact i.e. i have no clue what the role of Bruinsma and Righelli has been this version, but then again who does?
turkish airlines (14:40:22 - 28-03)
one does not simply : to take conflict down, hey poor! you are living under the wings of affinitas and very proud of that huh?
Anonymous (14:10:36 - 28-03)
Maybe its Time to Open a winners Topic for the version 3.3 ?
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
IMHO Quiri-Conf-Marang-Grav-Vinci-Righ-Lib+Presi
They Played the best, With all the wars they had.
Anonymous at 10:37:23 on 28/03:
Only deblood :s
I think that action is one biggest backstab actions to be made. But I guess .com rules have been changed to much along the years.
ElMariachi at 10:23:53 on 28/03:
Well I'm not familiar with .com standards but if a fam that is considered blood abandones its targets halfway thru the very first war you ever shoot with em and starts shooting on the other side you're simply being betrayed and to our standards there's only one solution to deal with that and no that is not tell em you did a bad bad move, now lets deblood and we're all cool again ...
lol @ showing us how a gang bang is done. You fake ass ninja wannabees could not even get a single fam down in your war vs the pact, you expect next version to do any better :')
Oh and fyi I voted Yes ;w
Well I'm not familiar with .com standards but if a fam that is considered blood abandones its targets halfway thru the very first war you ever shoot with em and starts shooting on the other side you're simply being betrayed and to our standards there's only one solution to deal with that and no that is not tell em you did a bad bad move, now lets deblood and we're all cool again ...
lol @ showing us how a gang bang is done. You fake ass ninja wannabees could not even get a single fam down in your war vs the pact, you expect next version to do any better :')
Oh and fyi I voted Yes ;w
Only deblood :s
I think that action is one biggest backstab actions to be made. But I guess .com rules have been changed to much along the years.
And act like nothing happened ? Comon we're playing a mafia game here and you know what happens to snitches and ppl that betray you, right ;)
Anonymous (13:09:37 - 28-03)
.com down?
Amenta at 11:25:06 on 28/03:
I'll do my best, I had a huge on the other day that i didnt post in the end :')
Vinci v Liberta sounds convincing tho dont u think <3
FlowzZ at 11:24:01 on 28/03:
Cant :\ , at university peeking at the news checking some rumours <3 :p
keep those essays up xd :^
Amenta at 11:21:18 on 28/03:
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
FlowzZ at 11:19:12 on 28/03:
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
Cant :\ , at university peeking at the news checking some rumours <3 :p
keep those essays up xd :^
I'll do my best, I had a huge on the other day that i didnt post in the end :')
Vinci v Liberta sounds convincing tho dont u think <3
just careful with some compo money or u get killed at your sleep xD
time to ninja logout and pretend im listening :p
FlowzZ at 11:24:01 on 28/03:
Cant :\ , at university peeking at the news checking some rumours <3 :p
keep those essays up xd :^
Amenta at 11:21:18 on 28/03:
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
FlowzZ at 11:19:12 on 28/03:
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
Cant :\ , at university peeking at the news checking some rumours <3 :p
keep those essays up xd :^
I'll do my best, I had a huge on the other day that i didnt post in the end :')
Vinci v Liberta sounds convincing tho dont u think <3
Amenta at 11:21:18 on 28/03:
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
FlowzZ at 11:19:12 on 28/03:
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
Cant :\ , at university peeking at the news checking some rumours <3 :p
keep those essays up xd :^
FlowzZ at 11:19:12 on 28/03:
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
God im enjoying OB news after a loooong time :')
Come back! Get on irc now u gay :p
Anonymous (11:13:47 - 28-03)
Liberta vs Vinci
Agree with scratz:)
They had endless chances to do us some srrious damage but failed to coordinate time after time
They had endless chances to do us some srrious damage but failed to coordinate time after time
scratzin (10:38:39 - 28-03)
Amenta at 03:16:46 on 28/03:
Would have to say I agree with you both here. There was some well played moves during this version by our side i guess you could call it, n yes numbers always help, but numbers without leadership is useless. Remeber Honor & Glory a few versions back? Big fam, did nothing died without much shouting either. The way wars have gone this version it has indeed benefited our blood circle, Purga & Vertigo pulling out of wars halfway in, fams shooting at another member of the "pact" when some were already very weak. In my opinion, Conflict, Marangello & Vincitori should all have died this version with a bit more planning & action on the other side. Its hard to explain, but i guess the Conf-Vinci-Quiri-Maran bloodship was the powerplay of the version before it started, n ye its a big task but no fam is undefeatable. Everyone just lined up to die in an orderly fashion, best example is Lato n then Gamb & Temp. If you are gonna counterattack the next day, brilliant i applaud that move. But dont suicide ur whole fam, n then let another fam do it 1hr later, its such a waste. I'm sure you worked with Turkuz last version, why could you not this version too? Sometimes u just have to choose ur battlefield, ofc Gamb/Temp knew they were next, but its still such a shame the fams which shot us down last version jsut walked into our guns this time. N ye people rage about it but when you look at it, every fam has done their part, shot when needed n not been afraid to shoot.
As for what Mickay said, the version winners are always highest on the target list next version too, it always happens. Vinci/Grav/DIGIT etc from 3.0 were all dead in 3.1. Nazdrovia have been a target ever since 3.1. Turkuz, Lato, Gamb were the branded targets this time after 3.2. So next version its our turn again, and we are gonna have to be damn smart about how we play to come through it again. I'm quite looking forward to the challenge. N i think Whatlazytologin is basically trying to say the same thing about next version in essence. 25 fams? Sounds like good fun, we will b ready.
As for Conf-Vinci-Maran-Grav ready to dominate a version, Vinci & Conf tried the bloodship last version, n we all ended up dead after some really long wars which were very messy, so without Quiri we probs would of been close to the same fate. Lato, Levi, Gamb & Temp probs would of all been together in the 1st war at us, whether they shot first or were shot upon. Sure, numbers had a big part on this version, but as I remember, Lato were top 10 too, Maraz even reached #1, SLC had 2 inside the top 10 for a long time, Blacksea & Yigidos werent small either, its just through the leadership it was designed such that in any single war numbers were in our favour, however throughout the whole version its probably the opposite.
I remember dark posting here something about how there is no diplomacy in real mafia, n the only ones that exist are made to be broken later. Perhaps this is a time when you could of done some of that, form together, bring down the pact, n then the version is yours to sort out. Or perhaps you could of done what Venge did, they didnt really outnumber Gravano, but their timing was smart & execution pretty good. Result, dead Gravano. There are ways, u jsut have to play it smart.
Would have to say I agree with you both here. There was some well played moves during this version by our side i guess you could call it, n yes numbers always help, but numbers without leadership is useless. Remeber Honor & Glory a few versions back? Big fam, did nothing died without much shouting either. The way wars have gone this version it has indeed benefited our blood circle, Purga & Vertigo pulling out of wars halfway in, fams shooting at another member of the "pact" when some were already very weak. In my opinion, Conflict, Marangello & Vincitori should all have died this version with a bit more planning & action on the other side. Its hard to explain, but i guess the Conf-Vinci-Quiri-Maran bloodship was the powerplay of the version before it started, n ye its a big task but no fam is undefeatable. Everyone just lined up to die in an orderly fashion, best example is Lato n then Gamb & Temp. If you are gonna counterattack the next day, brilliant i applaud that move. But dont suicide ur whole fam, n then let another fam do it 1hr later, its such a waste. I'm sure you worked with Turkuz last version, why could you not this version too? Sometimes u just have to choose ur battlefield, ofc Gamb/Temp knew they were next, but its still such a shame the fams which shot us down last version jsut walked into our guns this time. N ye people rage about it but when you look at it, every fam has done their part, shot when needed n not been afraid to shoot.
As for what Mickay said, the version winners are always highest on the target list next version too, it always happens. Vinci/Grav/DIGIT etc from 3.0 were all dead in 3.1. Nazdrovia have been a target ever since 3.1. Turkuz, Lato, Gamb were the branded targets this time after 3.2. So next version its our turn again, and we are gonna have to be damn smart about how we play to come through it again. I'm quite looking forward to the challenge. N i think Whatlazytologin is basically trying to say the same thing about next version in essence. 25 fams? Sounds like good fun, we will b ready.
As for Conf-Vinci-Maran-Grav ready to dominate a version, Vinci & Conf tried the bloodship last version, n we all ended up dead after some really long wars which were very messy, so without Quiri we probs would of been close to the same fate. Lato, Levi, Gamb & Temp probs would of all been together in the 1st war at us, whether they shot first or were shot upon. Sure, numbers had a big part on this version, but as I remember, Lato were top 10 too, Maraz even reached #1, SLC had 2 inside the top 10 for a long time, Blacksea & Yigidos werent small either, its just through the leadership it was designed such that in any single war numbers were in our favour, however throughout the whole version its probably the opposite.
I remember dark posting here something about how there is no diplomacy in real mafia, n the only ones that exist are made to be broken later. Perhaps this is a time when you could of done some of that, form together, bring down the pact, n then the version is yours to sort out. Or perhaps you could of done what Venge did, they didnt really outnumber Gravano, but their timing was smart & execution pretty good. Result, dead Gravano. There are ways, u jsut have to play it smart.
Amenta writing essays again, let me contribute Marang's POV.
The reason we won is clear and simple, we were pretty much the only side with a plan and the willingness to walk the talk. One of the few fams that also had a plan and realized we were a huge threat was Latobuio. And guess which fam was the first to go?
After we shot lato, Notte and Levi suicided in the middle of the night when they barely had shooters on, and gamb and temp suicided apart from eachother. Really now? If Notte/Levi/Gamb/Temp would have done a coordinated suicide on Quirites, maybe with some help from their old allies Turkuz+ (which they were oh so cosy with in 3.2, if you wanna talk about pacts), they could have downed them imo. And the thing with downing a fam from another server is that they usually just disappear (people dont have a lot of motivation to play). That would've prevented Qui from growing into the 150+ brug powerhouse that it was and is today.
After that, it just became so easy, we just had to get rid of the 3 major sides left: Maraz+, CLS, and Turkuz+. Well the turkuz part was easy, even tho they caught on to our plans. Maraz+ part was so easy too, after Krays shot themsealves to near death on Aztec. Shoot Krays late in the night (but not too late), so Maraz will blindly jump at a time they wont have that many shooters online. Plan worked perfectly, we shot Krays while keeping most of our shooters and bloods on standby to rape Maraz as soon as they shot us. We lost like 30-40 brugs in that war, to 120 Maraz and 30 krays brugs. Not a bad trade IMO.
The day after, CLS+ suicided on us and managed to do a fair bit of damage, but at this point, it was too little too late. Quite a few fams shot for us in that war, while they didn't have to, and could have just as easily let a few of us die. Fams like Hangover/Liberta/Caliente/Presidential. During that war you also had fams like Purga and Vertigo backing out (worth about 150 brugs total) and fams like Vengeance, Anadolu and Anonymous not participating. If they had, things would definitely have gone differently. Conf and us were near death, conf had about 7 brugs left and we <20 (dont recall the exact number). But again, they were just patiently waiting to die.
Thats fine, but then dont call us pussypact and say you never even had a chance. WE dominated this version from start to end, by shooting everyone who got in our way, and you just made it ridiculously easy for us.
We warred against 4 major sides this vers, CLS, Turkuz+, Maraz+ and Lato+. If just two of these sides had united against us, or if they would have just played a bit smarter (no uncoordinated suiciding and not backing out during a war for example), we wouldnt have taken this version. But you all seem more content with crying on OB then actually doing something. Now to be fair, CLS was in a difficult position, with LS being blooded to both us and Gravano. The way the version went pretty much had to end with a conflict between LS and vinci&conf, even tho we preferred they got along.
And as to our "inevitable rape" next version, maybe that will actually be a challenge for us, we look forward to it
Trying to avoid the word 'winning' because I know Turkuz wins every version ;).