Amenta at 03:16:46 on 28/03:

Would have to say I agree with you both here. There was some well played moves during this version by our side i guess you could call it, n yes numbers always help, but numbers without leadership is useless. Remeber Honor & Glory a few versions back? Big fam, did nothing died without much shouting either. The way wars have gone this version it has indeed benefited our blood circle, Purga & Vertigo pulling out of wars halfway in, fams shooting at another member of the "pact" when some were already very weak. In my opinion, Conflict, Marangello & Vincitori should all have died this version with a bit more planning & action on the other side. Its hard to explain, but i guess the Conf-Vinci-Quiri-Maran bloodship was the powerplay of the version before it started, n ye its a big task but no fam is undefeatable. Everyone just lined up to die in an orderly fashion, best example is Lato n then Gamb & Temp. If you are gonna counterattack the next day, brilliant i applaud that move. But dont suicide ur whole fam, n then let another fam do it 1hr later, its such a waste. I'm sure you worked with Turkuz last version, why could you not this version too? Sometimes u just have to choose ur battlefield, ofc Gamb/Temp knew they were next, but its still such a shame the fams which shot us down last version jsut walked into our guns this time. N ye people rage about it but when you look at it, every fam has done their part, shot when needed n not been afraid to shoot.

As for what Mickay said, the version winners are always highest on the target list next version too, it always happens. Vinci/Grav/DIGIT etc from 3.0 were all dead in 3.1. Nazdrovia have been a target ever since 3.1. Turkuz, Lato, Gamb were the branded targets this time after 3.2. So next version its our turn again, and we are gonna have to be damn smart about how we play to come through it again. I'm quite looking forward to the challenge. N i think Whatlazytologin is basically trying to say the same thing about next version in essence. 25 fams? Sounds like good fun, we will b ready.

As for Conf-Vinci-Maran-Grav ready to dominate a version, Vinci & Conf tried the bloodship last version, n we all ended up dead after some really long wars which were very messy, so without Quiri we probs would of been close to the same fate. Lato, Levi, Gamb & Temp probs would of all been together in the 1st war at us, whether they shot first or were shot upon. Sure, numbers had a big part on this version, but as I remember, Lato were top 10 too, Maraz even reached #1, SLC had 2 inside the top 10 for a long time, Blacksea & Yigidos werent small either, its just through the leadership it was designed such that in any single war numbers were in our favour, however throughout the whole version its probably the opposite.

I remember dark posting here something about how there is no diplomacy in real mafia, n the only ones that exist are made to be broken later. Perhaps this is a time when you could of done some of that, form together, bring down the pact, n then the version is yours to sort out. Or perhaps you could of done what Venge did, they didnt really outnumber Gravano, but their timing was smart & execution pretty good. Result, dead Gravano. There are ways, u jsut have to play it smart.

Amenta at 03:16:46 on 28/03:

Would have to say I agree with you both here. There was some well played moves during this version by our side i guess you could call it, n yes numbers always help, but numbers without leadership is useless. Remeber Honor & Glory a few versions back? Big fam, did nothing died without much shouting either. The way wars have gone this version it has indeed benefited our blood circle, Purga & Vertigo pulling out of wars halfway in, fams shooting at another member of the "pact" when some were already very weak. In my opinion, Conflict, Marangello & Vincitori should all have died this version with a bit more planning & action on the other side. Its hard to explain, but i guess the Conf-Vinci-Quiri-Maran bloodship was the powerplay of the version before it started, n ye its a big task but no fam is undefeatable. Everyone just lined up to die in an orderly fashion, best example is Lato n then Gamb & Temp. If you are gonna counterattack the next day, brilliant i applaud that move. But dont suicide ur whole fam, n then let another fam do it 1hr later, its such a waste. I'm sure you worked with Turkuz last version, why could you not this version too? Sometimes u just have to choose ur battlefield, ofc Gamb/Temp knew they were next, but its still such a shame the fams which shot us down last version jsut walked into our guns this time. N ye people rage about it but when you look at it, every fam has done their part, shot when needed n not been afraid to shoot.

As for what Mickay said, the version winners are always highest on the target list next version too, it always happens. Vinci/Grav/DIGIT etc from 3.0 were all dead in 3.1. Nazdrovia have been a target ever since 3.1. Turkuz, Lato, Gamb were the branded targets this time after 3.2. So next version its our turn again, and we are gonna have to be damn smart about how we play to come through it again. I'm quite looking forward to the challenge. N i think Whatlazytologin is basically trying to say the same thing about next version in essence. 25 fams? Sounds like good fun, we will b ready.

As for Conf-Vinci-Maran-Grav ready to dominate a version, Vinci & Conf tried the bloodship last version, n we all ended up dead after some really long wars which were very messy, so without Quiri we probs would of been close to the same fate. Lato, Levi, Gamb & Temp probs would of all been together in the 1st war at us, whether they shot first or were shot upon. Sure, numbers had a big part on this version, but as I remember, Lato were top 10 too, Maraz even reached #1, SLC had 2 inside the top 10 for a long time, Blacksea & Yigidos werent small either, its just through the leadership it was designed such that in any single war numbers were in our favour, however throughout the whole version its probably the opposite.

I remember dark posting here something about how there is no diplomacy in real mafia, n the only ones that exist are made to be broken later. Perhaps this is a time when you could of done some of that, form together, bring down the pact, n then the version is yours to sort out. Or perhaps you could of done what Venge did, they didnt really outnumber Gravano, but their timing was smart & execution pretty good. Result, dead Gravano. There are ways, u jsut have to play it smart.

Mickay at 01:56:49 on 28/03:

Don't get me wrong you guys played well and I give you guys mad props for coming to a foreign server, but you also came for the first version I've witness where it was designed in such a way that massive families are already set up with an insane advantage with competent leadership. It wasn't about the core strength of families, it was about numbers. You guys came over with good numbers, competent leaders, some server vets, and started off well connected. You could be running a family of 5 year olds this version, but if your numbers are high, you were set to dominate. The Conflict Vinci Marangello Gravano etc crew was already set to thoroughly crush the version, you guys helped sure, but this is a bad version to gauge .com. Stick around for next version man, I think you can expect more of a challenge.

Whatlazytologin at 02:55:14 on 28/03:

Yeah you showed what kind of a family you are by shooting at your own fu*king BLOOD..

What do you think every fam which is not in your fag pact think of you? What do you think is going to happen next version if you are stupid enough to come back with the same name?

oh and enjoy the moment and keep voting no at ROM because next version 25 families are all ready gathered to show YOU and your FAG PACT how a gang bang is done..

_I_

ElMariachi at 23:52:46 on 27/03:

Well I kinda have to agree on some parts: we came from .nl to see what we could do on .com, started the version before any fam was even up yet with a bloodcircle of fams my fellow tops played with in 3.1 as Invocandi and a smaller part of Balashikha. The lack of competition was a bit disappointing on the other hand some strategic planned moves like the war on Krays to lure Marazzino into a trap and the help from SLC on Turkuz/Yigidos worked out well for us, also the fact that some other fams attacked the cicle individual instead of a mass co-op to do as much damage as possible. We can look back at a version where the bloods circle Quirites is part of dictated the version from start to end which is not a bad accomplishment on .com imo. Looking back at the fam stats 1 month after 1st fams where up I would not have predicted it would be this "easy" to get where we are now. So personally for us the version as Quirites project was a succes, but overall this version was pretty disappointing and we expected a bit more...

ElMariachi at 23:52:46 on 27/03:

Well I kinda have to agree on some parts: we came from .nl to see what we could do on .com, started the version before any fam was even up yet with a bloodcircle of fams my fellow tops played with in 3.1 as Invocandi and a smaller part of Balashikha. The lack of competition was a bit disappointing on the other hand some strategic planned moves like the war on Krays to lure Marazzino into a trap and the help from SLC on Turkuz/Yigidos worked out well for us, also the fact that some other fams attacked the cicle individual instead of a mass co-op to do as much damage as possible. We can look back at a version where the bloods circle Quirites is part of dictated the version from start to end which is not a bad accomplishment on .com imo. Looking back at the fam stats 1 month after 1st fams where up I would not have predicted it would be this "easy" to get where we are now. So personally for us the version as Quirites project was a succes, but overall this version was pretty disappointing and we expected a bit more...

Anonymous at 23:06:11 on 27/03:
Good for him, at least wasnt his fam used and them shooted was the other way :)
im not angry, i just think the way the version was played wasnt the better, and i guess a fam like quirites didnt even had real competion but if they are happy to have a version like this one, good for him again. Same way to Liberta atm looks like a mix from Liberta+Violenza, didnt even was a main target of anyway war, if they are happy to , good for them also, just carefull last time tops from Liberta mix with Violenza i heard MT and some others screaming like hell.

Anyway its the version ppl chose to play :) gratzzz winners Conflict +Vincitori +LibertMIXvio +marrangello +Quirites

we still have the last act, its gonna be like 3.0.
Reset will be anounced and some will be pissed cos they wanna kill Bruinsma and Righelli others will cry cos they wanna kill Hangover, Caliente and Presi.
Proly that can fuck the relations fams have atm ot not, allways the same history... PPl will blame Admins but in my opinion its Players Fault

Redspeert at 22:52:22 on 27/03:

I know you are angry, but don't insult ElMariachi claiming he is a top of Purga, as he is a top of Quirites.

Anonymous at 22:43:23 on 27/03:
i got killed by the Reset Pact on the 1º war of this version, after that i put my lackey account ranking only with nick cars ranked to Lc and kill a Brug with +/- 350 rank points and bullet position from vincitori @ 05-03 war, atm ranking full speed to brug and ready to help any hijack!

Now tell me, wasnt you a Top from Purga?? what did you do besides having some gangbangs with the reset pact and got killed by the same guys??

ElMariachi at 21:50:56 on 27/03:

and what exactly did you do this version with your precious lackey acc :')

Anonymous at 19:00:39 on 27/03:
3.3 worst version ever, not even 1 hijack, ppl dont even wanna lose a lackey brug account trying, fags :W

Anonymous at 21:30:41 on 27/03:
Someone's fam died. :')

Anonymous at 21:30:41 on 27/03:
Someone's fam died. :')

Ivopausje at 14:28:23 on 27/03:
Rip Omerta. Please don't forget to sign the rip forum.

Lucci at 21:05:04 on 27/03:
05-01 Turkuz Hijacked!

Anonymous at 19:00:39 on 27/03:
3.3 worst version ever, not even 1 hijack, ppl dont even wanna lose a lackey brug account trying, fags :W

Anonymous at 16:27:23 on 27/03:
Liberta+ Points GF/FL CD Brug Chief LC Assa Swi Sol
Tremps 920 1 0 56 10 13 3 2 0
Marvel 299 1 0 14 6 4 1 5 2
Liberta 1525 1 0 92 18 15 15 14 3
Atrocita 1199 1 0 60 18 26 16 23 17
Oblivions 707 1 0 38 14 7 5 5 7
Total 4650 5 0 260 66 65 40 49 29

plzz finish this version :X