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12-01 No stopping now!
13:33:55 - 15-01
12-01 No stopping now!
10:15:43 - 15-01
Anonymous at 06:29:17 on 15/01:
in this article there are atleast 2 seperated wars but lazy ass beyond admins keep them in the same article :)
carta-prop vs tr pact supposed to be a new article
in this article there are atleast 2 seperated wars but lazy ass beyond admins keep them in the same article :)
carta-prop vs tr pact supposed to be a new article
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1507/1
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we all know these 'seperated wars' you're talking about would never happen when other wars haven't allready started. Some families are too poopy for counters and such.
Hope to talk to you soon, applications are more than welcome.
12-01 No stopping now!
18:19:56 - 13-01
RIP Jordy kingkiller
12-01 No stopping now!
20:57:26 - 12-01
MurderInc at 20:55:08 on 12/01:
Most of Colossal's HRs were offline when I checked shortly after the first brug kill, so I guess that's to be expected. Not sure if the plans leaked or if someone just shot too early, giving them time to go off.
Anonymous at 20:47:29 on 12/01:
Is there any proof ava is shooting? i would of thought if ava were shooting, it would be a better first wave.
Is there any proof ava is shooting? i would of thought if ava were shooting, it would be a better first wave.
10-01 Keep your friends close.. or..?
11:59:20 - 12-01
Saros`away at 11:44:25 on 12/01:
Does this mean you're not mad at me anymore either Aartknk? :(
Aart at 11:13:48 on 12/01:
I can imagine you being dumbstruck by the leak, my face was like :OOO ... i imagine yours like :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
I have been on the opposite side of the gun from you ingame since ever and i sincerely don't think you or any other sib top have to publicly excuse or clarify your actions for anything. If anyone's omerta career was ruined this week its your old pal Fenrir and not you guys. This game is played shady and ppl should deal with it.
Ingame i consider you (and crit) as dicks ;( cause reasons, but i'll sure miss to see you guys around in case you decide it ends here.
MurderInc at 01:10:59 on 12/01:
To say the least, I was literally dumbstruck when I first saw the leak. To see someone who I've been topping with for essentially 1.5 years, who has ranked for Siberia and even been in our top channel as a fly on the wall last version essentially dump a private conversation in someone's pm like that ... well, I haven't seen anything like it before. I didn't even consider it a remote possibility. I know it sounds weird to see me complain after the logs you saw, but I hope you can see the difference between stabbing a blood and ruining someone's "omerta career" - someone you've been working with for years.
There's also a level of selective perception going on that I can't even put my words to. Faffie is absolutely no stranger to the way we played this version, and selling out bloods like this is what we essentially did to Righelli in 4.1 and Aeterna in 4.6. In both versions that we won, we either had a large amount of bloods ourselves or benefited from bloods with a rather big circle. In versions where we chose to keep a rather small list of bloods, we stood our ground during the obligatory gangbang for a couple of days and then died. This is the same pattern that we've been seeing for ... well, ever since I started playing again.
To say the least, I was literally dumbstruck when I first saw the leak. To see someone who I've been topping with for essentially 1.5 years, who has ranked for Siberia and even been in our top channel as a fly on the wall last version essentially dump a private conversation in someone's pm like that ... well, I haven't seen anything like it before. I didn't even consider it a remote possibility. I know it sounds weird to see me complain after the logs you saw, but I hope you can see the difference between stabbing a blood and ruining someone's "omerta career" - someone you've been working with for years.
There's also a level of selective perception going on that I can't even put my words to. Faffie is absolutely no stranger to the way we played this version, and selling out bloods like this is what we essentially did to Righelli in 4.1 and Aeterna in 4.6. In both versions that we won, we either had a large amount of bloods ourselves or benefited from bloods with a rather big circle. In versions where we chose to keep a rather small list of bloods, we stood our ground during the obligatory gangbang for a couple of days and then died. This is the same pattern that we've been seeing for ... well, ever since I started playing again.
I have been on the opposite side of the gun from you ingame since ever and i sincerely don't think you or any other sib top have to publicly excuse or clarify your actions for anything. If anyone's omerta career was ruined this week its your old pal Fenrir and not you guys. This game is played shady and ppl should deal with it.
Ingame i consider you (and crit) as dicks ;( cause reasons, but i'll sure miss to see you guys around in case you decide it ends here.
Does this mean you're not mad at me anymore either Aartknk? :(
right in the feels
10-01 Keep your friends close.. or..?
11:13:48 - 12-01
MurderInc at 01:10:59 on 12/01:
To say the least, I was literally dumbstruck when I first saw the leak. To see someone who I've been topping with for essentially 1.5 years, who has ranked for Siberia and even been in our top channel as a fly on the wall last version essentially dump a private conversation in someone's pm like that ... well, I haven't seen anything like it before. I didn't even consider it a remote possibility. I know it sounds weird to see me complain after the logs you saw, but I hope you can see the difference between stabbing a blood and ruining someone's "omerta career" - someone you've been working with for years.
There's also a level of selective perception going on that I can't even put my words to. Faffie is absolutely no stranger to the way we played this version, and selling out bloods like this is what we essentially did to Righelli in 4.1 and Aeterna in 4.6. In both versions that we won, we either had a large amount of bloods ourselves or benefited from bloods with a rather big circle. In versions where we chose to keep a rather small list of bloods, we stood our ground during the obligatory gangbang for a couple of days and then died. This is the same pattern that we've been seeing for ... well, ever since I started playing again.
To say the least, I was literally dumbstruck when I first saw the leak. To see someone who I've been topping with for essentially 1.5 years, who has ranked for Siberia and even been in our top channel as a fly on the wall last version essentially dump a private conversation in someone's pm like that ... well, I haven't seen anything like it before. I didn't even consider it a remote possibility. I know it sounds weird to see me complain after the logs you saw, but I hope you can see the difference between stabbing a blood and ruining someone's "omerta career" - someone you've been working with for years.
There's also a level of selective perception going on that I can't even put my words to. Faffie is absolutely no stranger to the way we played this version, and selling out bloods like this is what we essentially did to Righelli in 4.1 and Aeterna in 4.6. In both versions that we won, we either had a large amount of bloods ourselves or benefited from bloods with a rather big circle. In versions where we chose to keep a rather small list of bloods, we stood our ground during the obligatory gangbang for a couple of days and then died. This is the same pattern that we've been seeing for ... well, ever since I started playing again.
I have been on the opposite side of the gun from you ingame since ever and i sincerely don't think you or any other sib top have to publicly excuse or clarify your actions for anything. If anyone's omerta career was ruined this week its your old pal Fenrir and not you guys. This game is played shady and ppl should deal with it.
Ingame i consider you (and crit) as dicks ;( cause reasons, but i'll sure miss to see you guys around in case you decide it ends here.
10-01 Keep your friends close.. or..?
21:24:53 - 11-01
Crit™ ;(
06-01 Kaboom bruh!
19:05:24 - 07-01
Johnx at 18:39:09 on 07/01:
there has never been removed any HoF because of cheating. They have avoided to make HoF some versions because of cheating.
Anonymous at 18:29:08 on 07/01:
All times 'pact' won version have been removed from HoF cause of cheating xD
Johnx at 17:56:41 on 07/01:
looking at the HoF, the so called pact has won 1 version in the past. meaning it is obviosuly the other side who must be the actual pact just ruining it for the ones you call a pact? here is a little info to you, and the rest of the retards, there is not pact. And if you say there is, then every fam is part of a pact. it is easy as that, so now take your bullshit and GTFO. loliwon
Anonymous at 17:46:51 on 07/01:
the one "the rest" has been fighting for versions now
Johnx at 17:45:21 on 07/01:
Which one of them, the ones that is winning, or the one that is losing? :)
Anonymous at 17:40:10 on 07/01:
this pact is just ruining the game for the rest
this pact is just ruining the game for the rest
the one "the rest" has been fighting for versions now
looking at the HoF, the so called pact has won 1 version in the past. meaning it is obviosuly the other side who must be the actual pact just ruining it for the ones you call a pact? here is a little info to you, and the rest of the retards, there is not pact. And if you say there is, then every fam is part of a pact. it is easy as that, so now take your bullshit and GTFO. loliwon
All times 'pact' won version have been removed from HoF cause of cheating xD
shaddup cheat0r you aeterna scum had our righelli win removed ;(
06-01 Kaboom bruh!
01:34:59 - 07-01
Rip Jordyrp, Goupe, Xerano & Rk9
06-01 Kaboom bruh!
23:57:33 - 06-01
PeterPanAirLines at 23:55:57 on 06/01:
bramble shesa fukin racist , she always help out dutch fams, conflict in the past and noow siberia...
PeterPanAirLines at 23:54:29 on 06/01:
[00:51:08] <PeterPanAirLines> once again bramble helped siberia
[00:51:38] <PeterPanAirLines> marazz had dets on them and maraz akilled
too easy asanswer murder :)
[00:51:08] <PeterPanAirLines> once again bramble helped siberia
[00:51:38] <PeterPanAirLines> marazz had dets on them and maraz akilled
too easy asanswer murder :)
06-01 Kaboom bruh!
23:24:53 - 06-01
Hallo Jordyrp this is a coded mssg
06-01 Another fam akilled?!
22:39:01 - 06-01
RIP Dupezzino ;(
General Comments & Major Rumors
13:30:15 - 30-12
Anonymous at 12:09:23 on 30/12:
Typical. Dodging the subject by trying to 'diss' people without any valid argument. Most people consider that by itself a weakness already.
Nuke at 05:23:02 on 30/12:
You're all over the place.. Take 3 deep breaths and count to 10. Now collect your thoughts. If the problem persists, wear a name tag stating your condition so that people can know how to apply special treatment in order to make you feel normal.
You.. Hold your buddy's hand! We don't want any strays running around here, not feeling special.
Aart at 15:55:30 on 29/12:
You are such a whiny faggot... Aren't you getting enough attention in your rl environment or is it a mental condition? You damn sure know which rules apply in cases like these but yet you choose the act like a fairy queen on every single point of discussion on this site. You've probably noticed, it's getting annoying Nuke.
Nuke at 12:49:05 on 29/12:
Cartagena consig admin killed, but not note on why.. Family is still up for now.
Cartagena consig admin killed, but not note on why.. Family is still up for now.
You're all over the place.. Take 3 deep breaths and count to 10. Now collect your thoughts. If the problem persists, wear a name tag stating your condition so that people can know how to apply special treatment in order to make you feel normal.
Anonymous at 16:20:18 on 29/12:
He'll probably claim Cartagena is a cheating family for the upcoming 3 versions now. All families who ever had an akill except his own family are cheater families forever. His family is the one of few clean families. That's also the reason they never win one, they're too clean. Poor Nuke :(
He'll probably claim Cartagena is a cheating family for the upcoming 3 versions now. All families who ever had an akill except his own family are cheater families forever. His family is the one of few clean families. That's also the reason they never win one, they're too clean. Poor Nuke :(
You.. Hold your buddy's hand! We don't want any strays running around here, not feeling special.
Typical. Dodging the subject by trying to 'diss' people without any valid argument. Most people consider that by itself a weakness already.
General Comments & Major Rumors
15:55:30 - 29-12
Nuke at 12:49:05 on 29/12:
Cartagena consig admin killed, but not note on why.. Family is still up for now.
Cartagena consig admin killed, but not note on why.. Family is still up for now.
05-12 The Punishment
17:07:17 - 05-12
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
Completely to the point.
Though i'm not so sure it's merely a display error. I'd say the KA takes rank into account and not just rankpoints or regime strenght as you put it.
Enfin, it's not a bug and once again shows complete incompetence by the crew. If anyone simply would have had balls and shot them offline with a safe ammount of bullets and bg settup, you would have forced those cdc's online and they'd had to travel or sh, fixing the whole damn issue.
It's even more hilarious to see all these whiny souls here crying for !cheat0rs and !justice.
Yes Nuke, you. Simpleton.
05-12 The Punishment
14:45:27 - 05-12
lol just lol.
Such bug such wow.
Such bug such wow.
12-11 Urgent Fury
10:44:02 - 15-11
just shit the fuck up murderdick ;(
06-10 It ain't over till the fat lady sings
21:38:33 - 07-10
Anonymous at 21:03:52 on 07/10:
Too dumb? No. Action has a reaction indeed. But don't come bragging around saying you play it with 'honor' and 'loyalty' and blame others for selling when you've just sold someone yourself. Then you should've just deblooded them and shot them yourselves. Staying blooded and selling is just playing along the dirty game. That's what my point in this discussion is, not about who was right and who was wrong. This is a mafia game for Christ sake :')
Aart at 20:39:15 on 07/10:
If you have been 'very close into what happened this version', which is reasonably safe to say highly unlikely since you're commenting anonymous, you would know that in this game every action has a reaction.
It's known for a fact that Aeterna leaked plans of their bloods to Siberia before the first war, plans that mainly involved Empire - but somehow you appear too dumb to grasp that Trafficante was also part of those leaked plans. Meaning that whatever twisted way you might look at it, Aeterna started building distrust towards 'their bloods' and certainly not the other way around.
Anonymous at 20:00:01 on 07/10:
LOL I've been very close into what happend in this version and half of your story is false. You stab a blood and then blame Aeterna for stabbing a blood. You don't even have a clue on how many bloods Aeterna had at the time, else you wouldn't even make that I'd almost say dumb statement. Last time Lucchese did their 3 blood deal, only 1 family (Krays) followed their example and Lucchese got hammered by a 12 fam gangbang.
LOL I've been very close into what happend in this version and half of your story is false. You stab a blood and then blame Aeterna for stabbing a blood. You don't even have a clue on how many bloods Aeterna had at the time, else you wouldn't even make that I'd almost say dumb statement. Last time Lucchese did their 3 blood deal, only 1 family (Krays) followed their example and Lucchese got hammered by a 12 fam gangbang.
It's known for a fact that Aeterna leaked plans of their bloods to Siberia before the first war, plans that mainly involved Empire - but somehow you appear too dumb to grasp that Trafficante was also part of those leaked plans. Meaning that whatever twisted way you might look at it, Aeterna started building distrust towards 'their bloods' and certainly not the other way around.
Just try to imagine the scenario where Trafficante would have told Aeterna to go fuck themselves after the leaked info. Not only would Trafficante have been stuck with 1 dead blood at that point (Empire), 1 damaged blood (Krays) and an unfinsihed war with team Siberia.... On top of that you believe they had to deal with Aeterna at that point too?
That scenario would have been profitable for alot of fams, none of them being Trafficante.
06-10 It ain't over till the fat lady sings
20:39:15 - 07-10
Anonymous at 20:00:01 on 07/10:
LOL I've been very close into what happend in this version and half of your story is false. You stab a blood and then blame Aeterna for stabbing a blood. You don't even have a clue on how many bloods Aeterna had at the time, else you wouldn't even make that I'd almost say dumb statement. Last time Lucchese did their 3 blood deal, only 1 family (Krays) followed their example and Lucchese got hammered by a 12 fam gangbang.
LOL I've been very close into what happend in this version and half of your story is false. You stab a blood and then blame Aeterna for stabbing a blood. You don't even have a clue on how many bloods Aeterna had at the time, else you wouldn't even make that I'd almost say dumb statement. Last time Lucchese did their 3 blood deal, only 1 family (Krays) followed their example and Lucchese got hammered by a 12 fam gangbang.
It's known for a fact that Aeterna leaked plans of their bloods to Siberia before the first war, plans that mainly involved Empire - but somehow you appear too dumb to grasp that Trafficante was also part of those leaked plans. Meaning that whatever twisted way you might look at it, Aeterna started building distrust towards 'their bloods' and certainly not the other way around.
That being said, the other version you are talking about.. 4.5 - you're again completely wrong on the facts. I highly doubt anyone here is interested in a discussion about that version again but i'll be happy to give you a bief history lesson on irc if you feel like it.
28-09 Surprise, Motherf***er!
09:40:53 - 30-09
MurderInc at 02:11:51 on 30/09:
Lusa didn't shoot Empire/Krays in that war, that's a mistake. It was pretty much Siberia/Maleficent vs. Empire/Krays, with Trafficante and Camorra countering. That's pretty much as balanced as it gets.
Jimbo at 02:00:06 on 30/09:
"After alot of rumours and standoffs, the first big war of the version emerges as Siberia Lusa and Maleficent take action against Empire and Krays."
there are bad ratios in many wars.
MurderInc at 00:18:11 on 30/09:
might have something to do with the fact that we were outnumbered 2:1.
Have you seen Siberia receive a single akill for any bug that's been busted in the last year? no? Well, then shut the fuck up and go back to tending to your dupes.
Grannqe2 at 23:54:01 on 29/09:
its funny how back on time aeterna siberia and lusa were too hard to be killed but now after many bug fixing and akills we can see their real power.
blegh
its funny how back on time aeterna siberia and lusa were too hard to be killed but now after many bug fixing and akills we can see their real power.
blegh
Have you seen Siberia receive a single akill for any bug that's been busted in the last year? no? Well, then shut the fuck up and go back to tending to your dupes.
"After alot of rumours and standoffs, the first big war of the version emerges as Siberia Lusa and Maleficent take action against Empire and Krays."
there are bad ratios in many wars.
Not that i can be arsed about it but if you wish i can go through my logs to verify for you lusa did actually shoot there in the first wave. Otherwise i wouldn't have added it in the article.
Besides that was hardly a 'balanced' war but i guess we all know those reasons.
in this article there are atleast 2 seperated wars but lazy ass beyond admins keep them in the same article :)
carta-prop vs tr pact supposed to be a new article
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1507/1
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we all know these 'seperated wars' you're talking about would never happen when other wars haven't allready started. Some families are too poopy for counters and such.
Hope to talk to you soon, applications are more than welcome.
im not sure if you earn money from obn ( judging by the banners you do) but this is your job and you do not have the luxuary to tell a 'user ( costumer )' to do it for you.
you write, we read and give feedback -possitive or negative- and since you call yourselves 'journalist' or 'reporters' you should be much more open to a negative feedback rather than calling users 'whiny fairy's'
you can always say; yes you are right but we did not open a seperate article because of following reasons ...
To answer your rather dumb questions, offcourse the admins and reporters don't get money for maintaining this site. The banners (which you only see because you don't login and keep being an anonymous badass) are a financial compensation for the person who is paying for the server costs. If you think being an admin/reporter for OBN is actually a job, I can't imagine you being older than 12... though your standard of written english surprisingly suggests otherwise.
Wait a minute, a great idea comes to mind... why don't you apply for being a (non payed obviously) reporter on this website so we can discuss the absurd claims of "pact people running this site" and "wrongfully created war topics" together in our reporter chan. I'm sure all the current people spending their time for this site would love to.
Don't get me (or any of the other admins/reporters) wrong... we like to write, update and get correct feedback about the "voluntary work" we do. Calling us "lazy ass beyond admins" however, will get you anything but a positive reaction.