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General Comments & Major Rumors
16:05:40 - 22-07
General Comments & Major Rumors
15:19:29 - 22-07
You were driving around town as you saw ***speeding around town in a shiny new motor - you decided to give chase!
You tossed 3 molotovs at the car, exploding the engine!
You duck behind the wall of a nearby garage as ***pulls a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum out and whirls around and pulls the trigger...
****suffered but is still alive.
You killed 2 of his guards!
Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
Your suit was destroyed by backfire!
2 of your guards were slaughtered in the counterattack!
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Target full def, im vic and ike attack. Health 24% . From 20k backfire.
So still broken, just confirming:)
2 weeks and counting.
You tossed 3 molotovs at the car, exploding the engine!
You duck behind the wall of a nearby garage as ***pulls a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum out and whirls around and pulls the trigger...
****suffered but is still alive.
You killed 2 of his guards!
Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
Your suit was destroyed by backfire!
2 of your guards were slaughtered in the counterattack!
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Target full def, im vic and ike attack. Health 24% . From 20k backfire.
So still broken, just confirming:)
2 weeks and counting.
18-07 New KA
23:55:41 - 20-07
fuerte at 23:51:17 on 20/07:
I'll follow Sbanks and also just ignore you from now on, you won't listen anyway :P
I'll follow Sbanks and also just ignore you from now on, you won't listen anyway :P
Your only argument so far has been 'they might have changed some stuff' blabla. My arguments and proof were solid to say the least.
Anyway, will do the same. Good luck.
18-07 New KA
23:33:07 - 20-07
fuerte at 23:19:55 on 20/07:
I would say they changed it to random guards in order to make it more exciting, or there's a bug that causes defensive guards to die first. doesn't mean the stats were flipped
[16:08] <!KCode> KA is based on straight 1on1 factors
[16:08] <!KCode> at end there is a total
[16:08] <!KCode> and from there it works with the ATT DEF
[16:08] <!KCode> the tweaking part
[16:08] <!KCode> is made on the factors
[16:08] <!KCode> which we will check
clear statement they are tweaking the base factors, not the bg's ^^
Arcanine at 19:31:41 on 20/07:
Can you also explain me why the 2 bodyguards I lost in backfire were Joe and Ray, who were trained defensively, and not my Vic and Ike..like it always has been?
And why the defender didnt lose his Vic and Ike but also 2 defensive bodyguards?
Bug.
fuerte at 19:00:22 on 20/07:
Someone who has more def will lose their bg's later, so they will have more time to do dmg to the attacker. With 60k shots even defensive bodyguards will die, so it probably isn't the case then. Still not convinced :)
Someone who has more def will lose their bg's later, so they will have more time to do dmg to the attacker. With 60k shots even defensive bodyguards will die, so it probably isn't the case then. Still not convinced :)
Can you also explain me why the 2 bodyguards I lost in backfire were Joe and Ray, who were trained defensively, and not my Vic and Ike..like it always has been?
And why the defender didnt lose his Vic and Ike but also 2 defensive bodyguards?
Bug.
I would say they changed it to random guards in order to make it more exciting, or there's a bug that causes defensive guards to die first. doesn't mean the stats were flipped
[16:08] <!KCode> KA is based on straight 1on1 factors
[16:08] <!KCode> at end there is a total
[16:08] <!KCode> and from there it works with the ATT DEF
[16:08] <!KCode> the tweaking part
[16:08] <!KCode> is made on the factors
[16:08] <!KCode> which we will check
clear statement they are tweaking the base factors, not the bg's ^^
Yea sure mate:') They didnt intentionally change anything, especially not the order of bodyguard killing.
Anyway, believe what you want. It makes the game easier for the handfull of people who do know whats going on
18-07 New KA
19:31:41 - 20-07
fuerte at 19:00:22 on 20/07:
Someone who has more def will lose their bg's later, so they will have more time to do dmg to the attacker. With 60k shots even defensive bodyguards will die, so it probably isn't the case then. Still not convinced :)
Someone who has more def will lose their bg's later, so they will have more time to do dmg to the attacker. With 60k shots even defensive bodyguards will die, so it probably isn't the case then. Still not convinced :)
Can you also explain me why the 2 bodyguards I lost in backfire were Joe and Ray, who were trained defensively, and not my Vic and Ike..like it always has been?
And why the defender didnt lose his Vic and Ike but also 2 defensive bodyguards?
Bug.
20-07 Raiding information
12:13:37 - 20-07
Activity is the most important factor. Although it shouldnt even be in the game.
18-07 New KA
20:56:12 - 19-07
Anonymous at 20:53:04 on 19/07:
If someone shoots at you and you shoot back, is that an act of defense, or is it an offensive act?
(No, I don't really mean what I'm saying, just trying to find ways how it could be defended - pun intended)
If someone shoots at you and you shoot back, is that an act of defense, or is it an offensive act?
(No, I don't really mean what I'm saying, just trying to find ways how it could be defended - pun intended)
Backfire strength should be determined by attack but instead it uses defense.
18-07 New KA
18:41:39 - 19-07
Soph at 18:37:11 on 19/07:
Removing anonymous posts would make this site seem very empty as just a few people would post.
I like the KA, even though it's not perfect. It's kinda odd that attack was so overpowered last versions, you'd see whole families getting decimated with just 1 or 2 bf kills.. that's not really an option. Sure, shooting should be rewarded, but the reward is in the spoils. Take your losses like a man.
Removing anonymous posts would make this site seem very empty as just a few people would post.
I like the KA, even though it's not perfect. It's kinda odd that attack was so overpowered last versions, you'd see whole families getting decimated with just 1 or 2 bf kills.. that's not really an option. Sure, shooting should be rewarded, but the reward is in the spoils. Take your losses like a man.
How can you like this KA when someone on 5 defense does more backfire damage than someone on 3 attack?
Anyway, Kcode said he is applying a hotfix today so we will see how it works out.
18-07 New KA
15:32:08 - 18-07
gode at 15:12:09 on 18/07:
i agree on that, wiping a fam shouldn't be something that everyone can do easily.
we have already played lots of versions with the idea "shooting fams wins it"
let the game flow other way for sometime
btw about KA bug, i don't accept Arcanine testcase, 20k bullets does not explain %100
maybe they have some random thing on preshots, so preshooting has become kind of risky
omerta never been about math, there was always some randomness/mistery about KA
some examination should be done by KCode imo
moon@home at 13:58:48 on 18/07:
i don´t know what they did with the ka but it doesn´t seem that diferent to me imho and it´s better balanced then 2.2 and 2.3 and so forth ka because wiping out a family isn´t easy and should never be cheap
i don´t know what they did with the ka but it doesn´t seem that diferent to me imho and it´s better balanced then 2.2 and 2.3 and so forth ka because wiping out a family isn´t easy and should never be cheap
i agree on that, wiping a fam shouldn't be something that everyone can do easily.
we have already played lots of versions with the idea "shooting fams wins it"
let the game flow other way for sometime
btw about KA bug, i don't accept Arcanine testcase, 20k bullets does not explain %100
maybe they have some random thing on preshots, so preshooting has become kind of risky
omerta never been about math, there was always some randomness/mistery about KA
some examination should be done by KCode imo
Brando himself admitted it lol. Dont talk nonsense.
17-07 Andronova being shot
12:34:43 - 18-07
Brando Omerta
9 hours ago
Family Unlockables are not working since they are a complete different system from current city maps , ETA: Next Monday.
- From our dev.
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From Brando his FB:') They just dont give a fuck hah
9 hours ago
Family Unlockables are not working since they are a complete different system from current city maps , ETA: Next Monday.
- From our dev.
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From Brando his FB:') They just dont give a fuck hah
17-07 Andronova being shot
01:29:37 - 18-07
Want to add I reported it on MONDAY and since then nobody from the crew has come online who can actually shut down the kill page till it's fixed.
Very, very slow.
Very, very slow.
17-07 Andronova being shot
21:09:56 - 17-07
Oh my god. Enjoy getting fucked over by the KA.
Idiots:D
Idiots:D
General Comments & Major Rumors
16:34:22 - 17-07
Anonymous at 15:21:18 on 17/07:
@Arcanine
Does the crew know about this mess and are they gonna change it?
Arcanine at 14:52:35 on 17/07:
That's how it should be yes and thats how it always has been until now. The guy who rewrote it just messed up and swapped them. Now defense is used for backfire strength attack for defense
Anonymous at 14:12:54 on 17/07:
Mh maybe it is really like defense only for soaking dmg and attack for backfire.
Which would makes sense if it is that way.
Mh maybe it is really like defense only for soaking dmg and attack for backfire.
Which would makes sense if it is that way.
That's how it should be yes and thats how it always has been until now. The guy who rewrote it just messed up and swapped them. Now defense is used for backfire strength attack for defense
@Arcanine
Does the crew know about this mess and are they gonna change it?
Yes, they know..just waiting for Kcode to come online to close kill and/or fix it.
General Comments & Major Rumors
14:52:35 - 17-07
Anonymous at 14:12:54 on 17/07:
Mh maybe it is really like defense only for soaking dmg and attack for backfire.
Which would makes sense if it is that way.
Mh maybe it is really like defense only for soaking dmg and attack for backfire.
Which would makes sense if it is that way.
That's how it should be yes and thats how it always has been until now. The guy who rewrote it just messed up and swapped them. Now defense is used for backfire strength attack for defense
General Comments & Major Rumors
13:43:32 - 17-07
Stanto at 13:09:38 on 17/07:
As i say , i dont mind to be killed properly , but if you can say that this kill is fair , ok then . Let it be empty suit can shoot Brug in next version ...
About flowmerta , that is fault of families tops not admins ...
Anonymous at 12:49:26 on 17/07:
Than lets play Flowerta where everyone gets revived after killing because all is unfair, be ith the ratios, brugs shooting lower...unfair.... Life is unfair live with it.
Than lets play Flowerta where everyone gets revived after killing because all is unfair, be ith the ratios, brugs shooting lower...unfair.... Life is unfair live with it.
As i say , i dont mind to be killed properly , but if you can say that this kill is fair , ok then . Let it be empty suit can shoot Brug in next version ...
About flowmerta , that is fault of families tops not admins ...
Someone who had a look at the KA logs has already admitted that it looks like attack and defense points are swapped around in the KA:)
Now just waiting for the fix..
General Comments & Major Rumors
12:53:00 - 16-07
anonymous at 12:43:27 on 16/07:
what will they do ? ( the admins ) if this is true ?
what will they do ? ( the admins ) if this is true ?
Rollback is too late maybe but seriously ALOT of people got done by this. I have tested it myself and by other people and the results were always the same.
When you shoot 20k on a full def brug and he has backfire on he does way,way more damage than he should because the strength of backfire is calculated by the defense points and not attack like it should.
It's a shocking bug.
Everyone is free to do a test. Just shoot 20k on someone who has same bf on and full defense. You will get massive backfire back from him, even though he has not even 1 attacking guard.
General Comments & Major Rumors
12:22:38 - 16-07
Solstice at 12:18:35 on 16/07:
I never talk shit, tyvm. If you now know how the new KA works, you can find a way around it. Have you tried shooting someone with 5 attack bg's yet btw?
I never talk shit, tyvm. If you now know how the new KA works, you can find a way around it. Have you tried shooting someone with 5 attack bg's yet btw?
Are you fucking kidding me?
We were 2 Brugs. I had 200k more bullets in stock.
My guards were Vic and Ike attack. My target had FULL defense.
I shot 20k and got 20k back. I had 21 BLOOD left in backfire. I did more damage to him than when he had 2 attack guards instead of 5 defense. I lost 15 MORE BLOOD because my opponent FIRED VIC AND IKE and went FULL defense.
There is nothing to understand. Its broken. It swaps attack and defense points.
General Comments & Major Rumors
12:09:22 - 16-07
Solstice at 12:08:45 on 16/07:
Families just need to find out a way to kill people without dieing. I remember in 3.3 we shot 14k each untill a target was dead, to avoid dieing in bf. Find out how the KA works, then strategize on that. It isn't a bad thing that it takes longer to plan a war imo. The last versions wars happened so quick that there wasn't even much of a chance for reranking, cause as soon as you'd be an lc you would get in a war again.
qibuz at 11:53:57 on 16/07:
Kcode is a hippy. This KA brings nothing but peace to this game. Make love not war. Who likes to trade some HP?
Kcode is a hippy. This KA brings nothing but peace to this game. Make love not war. Who likes to trade some HP?
Families just need to find out a way to kill people without dieing. I remember in 3.3 we shot 14k each untill a target was dead, to avoid dieing in bf. Find out how the KA works, then strategize on that. It isn't a bad thing that it takes longer to plan a war imo. The last versions wars happened so quick that there wasn't even much of a chance for reranking, cause as soon as you'd be an lc you would get in a war again.
Dont talk shit, read what I post.
THere is nothing TO FIGURE OUT. Its broken.
General Comments & Major Rumors
12:05:29 - 16-07
I did some test shots because I felt something was really wrong. I shot someone with 3 defense bodyguards and then shot the same person with 5 DEFENSE bodyguards. My own setup was always the same, Vic and Ike attack.
First attempt with defender Vic+Ike, 3 defense.F rom 20k backfire I have 39 blood left. Defender has 66 blood left.
Second attempt with the defender going FULL DEFENSE..from 20k backfire I have 21(!!!!!!!) blood left. From a full defense brug. Defender had ONLY 55 blood left..even though he had 2 more defending bodyguards.
Conclusion : Attacking points are now defending points. Defending points are attacking points
First attempt with defender Vic+Ike, 3 defense.F rom 20k backfire I have 39 blood left. Defender has 66 blood left.
Second attempt with the defender going FULL DEFENSE..from 20k backfire I have 21(!!!!!!!) blood left. From a full defense brug. Defender had ONLY 55 blood left..even though he had 2 more defending bodyguards.
Conclusion : Attacking points are now defending points. Defending points are attacking points
General Comments & Major Rumors
03:08:39 - 16-07
The KA is screwed bigtime because it uses ATTACK POINTS as defense points and DEFENSE POINTS as ATTACK points.
Full details when I wake up:D
Hundreds of players got fucked because when they went full attack they were actually full def. Guys with 5 def actually had a 5 attack set-up. ETc etc.
Sleep well.
Full details when I wake up:D
Hundreds of players got fucked because when they went full attack they were actually full def. Guys with 5 def actually had a 5 attack set-up. ETc etc.
Sleep well.
You were driving around town as you saw ***speeding around town in a shiny new motor - you decided to give chase!
You tossed 3 molotovs at the car, exploding the engine!
You duck behind the wall of a nearby garage as ***pulls a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum out and whirls around and pulls the trigger...
****suffered but is still alive.
You killed 2 of his guards!
Your enemy tried to strike back, his bullets found their way through your body, but you survived.
Your suit was destroyed by backfire!
2 of your guards were slaughtered in the counterattack!
--------------------------
Target full def, im vic and ike attack. Health 24% . From 20k backfire.
So still broken, just confirming:)
2 weeks and counting.
HP of defender?
[17:17:17] <~***> Health
[17:17:17] <~****> 56%
I shot the same target 1 week ago when the player had Vic,Ike and Joe on attack and then the health left was 69. Again with 20k obviously.