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17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
21:48:55 - 17-01
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
21:02:06 - 17-01
sbanks at 20:35:32 on 17/01:
yes.
Anonymous at 20:29:08 on 17/01:
Gravano → Righelli
Messina → Favians
Again I ask, Messina backstabbing Righelli?
Gravano → Righelli
Messina → Favians
Again I ask, Messina backstabbing Righelli?
yes.
Yes and it is not surprise :p
Anyway bbs
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
02:02:23 - 12-01
sbanks at 01:50:48 on 12/01:
feel free to create it :p
Anonymous at 01:31:02 on 12/01:
Please could the attacking and defending sides strengths be mapped side by side in a graph so that they can be compared?
Please could the attacking and defending sides strengths be mapped side by side in a graph so that they can be compared?
feel free to create it :p
I feel free, but i can't really create it.
Rip who died, it was fun as it lasted !
ps : numbers might be deceptive. If you don't know the online high ranks, numbers of high ranks are useless, it will be all about bullets amounts. Plus, this ka adds attackers a great advantage, all you need is a well organised NO LEAK war.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
13:51:54 - 10-01
Anonymous at 11:58:09 on 10/01:
Complaining is someting from all times. Nowadays people complaining about huge massive attacks. You are talking about 2.5. In 2.5 there where wars where even one fam attacked 2 fams and killed them. Complaining in that Era was about shooting time.
For example http://news.omertabeyond.com/142
Johnny at 11:10:30 on 10/01:
Your stating facts sounds quite bitter.
Your talk about KA, it works both ways. You will never get shot by 2-3 families (unless you are small and unimportant), instead when you get shot hell will open upon you. It will be huge mass of families gunning you down. It has been like this for ages, those who have bigger numbers and better organization win. There is no elite families or anything, numbers + brain will always prevail. Also famous befriend them than backstab can only work once, after you play that card you're either marked as backstaber or you lose family you were good with. Especially cause next version everyone wants revenge on you.
Your remark about 2.5 earlier is quite interesting, cause imo 2.5 was one of the best, if not the best version I saw. Reason for that was that Omerta was still kind of fresh, and there was not so many good and strong relations. Families were ready to shoot anyone in order to get on top. I remember Righelli and Fumatore gunning down Conflict alliance who seemed strongest.
All "pacts" (same as bloods) are built defensive, you need bloods to protect yourself, and usually bloods have common enemies. Now when half of game wants you dead, your only chance is to stick with other half and try to make them either your allies or at least not enemies. People tried to destroy these things with brute force, harder you hit them they'll come back stronger. Every time you shoot 2-3 bloods at same time, they might die but their bond groves stronger. You wont defeat anyone by simply killing them (unless you have such a power that you can do it over and over again without losing), only way to beat that play style was for everyone to play RPG and forget past version as soon as new one starts. Think most of us players failed on that part.
Now it's too late to change, game is played this way for years, and I am sure many players never even saw other way to play it. To some will sound absurd when they hear that Messina and Gravano used to be enemies, or that Yigidos (and what not) were nothing more but a small sister family of random families... Everyone made 4 fams alliance cause that was way to play it and having more than 3-4 bloods was not trend. Alliance blooded alliances, but only ones you could really trust were your own people...
You can complain about pacts and discuss who ruined game more admins or players, I can tell you imo players did, admins just did nothing to save it. Tbh for spectator point it looks like Brando is only trying to milk every cent he can from Omerta before it dies, don't really think he cares anymore. In past he would at least pretend he gives a fuck now and then.
Anonymous at 09:18:12 on 10/01:
and again i doubt if you really understand what this is about, its not about who is to blame. im just stating facts here. I write what i see and have seen happening over the years. im not saying what is good or bad, i just question if these decisions made the game better/more fun. You apparently dont agree with pass pacting/blooding responding like that, getting defensive and blaming others/admins. yet you participate
on top of that i dont see how a attacker KA gets fams to suck up to eachother. If you ask me it works the other way around :') When a KA is defender advantage, you need more fams to kill 1 right? that would make fams stick together to kill another fam. A offensive KA is a opportunity to kill fams with decente ratios.
and again i doubt if you really understand what this is about, its not about who is to blame. im just stating facts here. I write what i see and have seen happening over the years. im not saying what is good or bad, i just question if these decisions made the game better/more fun. You apparently dont agree with pass pacting/blooding responding like that, getting defensive and blaming others/admins. yet you participate
on top of that i dont see how a attacker KA gets fams to suck up to eachother. If you ask me it works the other way around :') When a KA is defender advantage, you need more fams to kill 1 right? that would make fams stick together to kill another fam. A offensive KA is a opportunity to kill fams with decente ratios.
Your stating facts sounds quite bitter.
Your talk about KA, it works both ways. You will never get shot by 2-3 families (unless you are small and unimportant), instead when you get shot hell will open upon you. It will be huge mass of families gunning you down. It has been like this for ages, those who have bigger numbers and better organization win. There is no elite families or anything, numbers + brain will always prevail. Also famous befriend them than backstab can only work once, after you play that card you're either marked as backstaber or you lose family you were good with. Especially cause next version everyone wants revenge on you.
Your remark about 2.5 earlier is quite interesting, cause imo 2.5 was one of the best, if not the best version I saw. Reason for that was that Omerta was still kind of fresh, and there was not so many good and strong relations. Families were ready to shoot anyone in order to get on top. I remember Righelli and Fumatore gunning down Conflict alliance who seemed strongest.
All "pacts" (same as bloods) are built defensive, you need bloods to protect yourself, and usually bloods have common enemies. Now when half of game wants you dead, your only chance is to stick with other half and try to make them either your allies or at least not enemies. People tried to destroy these things with brute force, harder you hit them they'll come back stronger. Every time you shoot 2-3 bloods at same time, they might die but their bond groves stronger. You wont defeat anyone by simply killing them (unless you have such a power that you can do it over and over again without losing), only way to beat that play style was for everyone to play RPG and forget past version as soon as new one starts. Think most of us players failed on that part.
Now it's too late to change, game is played this way for years, and I am sure many players never even saw other way to play it. To some will sound absurd when they hear that Messina and Gravano used to be enemies, or that Yigidos (and what not) were nothing more but a small sister family of random families... Everyone made 4 fams alliance cause that was way to play it and having more than 3-4 bloods was not trend. Alliance blooded alliances, but only ones you could really trust were your own people...
You can complain about pacts and discuss who ruined game more admins or players, I can tell you imo players did, admins just did nothing to save it. Tbh for spectator point it looks like Brando is only trying to milk every cent he can from Omerta before it dies, don't really think he cares anymore. In past he would at least pretend he gives a fuck now and then.
Complaining is someting from all times. Nowadays people complaining about huge massive attacks. You are talking about 2.5. In 2.5 there where wars where even one fam attacked 2 fams and killed them. Complaining in that Era was about shooting time.
For example http://news.omertabeyond.com/142
That is not possible since lackeys were released. It wasn't possible after scripts become main stream either, there has always been a script around though.
Such as: in 2.3 the giant NINE alliance had about 35 40 brugs ( and it took longer of them to have that much high ranks than the period we have since reset happened ) when they got shot and they were seemed as so big for the rest that a few alliances gathered to shoot them.
But nowadays, even a single family can have more high ranks. But you can't get them all online at shooting time so you have to gather some families to have a proper war, otherwise you fail. Another factor why it is no longer possible is, "bloods" word's meaning changing this drastically. It is nowadays live together, die together. But back then, it was more like work together, help when it is also on your favor. Alliance word used to have that meaning is live together, die together.
So, those who complain about game doesn't change at all, are wrong, the game has changed a lot. Either adopt to changes, or fight against changes. Hating the player is absuletely NO SOLUTION.
General Comments & Major Rumors
06:37:27 - 09-01
RD at 02:45:15 on 09/01:
aight i will just take shell myself xd
Redspeert at 22:36:44 on 08/01:
I'm coming for you goupe.
Anonymous at 22:26:08 on 08/01:
Cristeria+ Vs Righelli+
Cristeria+ Vs Righelli+
I'm coming for you goupe.
come to momma
General Comments & Major Rumors
19:57:42 - 08-01
Anonymous at 19:39:50 on 08/01:
Actually this is hard to believe, no family will organize a war on their own these days. For example if Marazzino is going to shoot Jannisary+ they will do it with Lucchese, Catania, Gravano, Messina, Memento never alone.
Shooting alone is so 2.4
Anonymous at 18:58:42 on 08/01:
Saturday 20 OT:
Marazzino vs Jannisary+
Lucchese+Catania vs Pentagram+
ISPP vs Leviticus+ Provenzano+
Gravano vs Purgatory+
Cristeria vs Samyo
Messina vs Turkuz+
Memento vs İhtilal+
Righelli vs Kurosawa
Saturday 20 OT:
Marazzino vs Jannisary+
Lucchese+Catania vs Pentagram+
ISPP vs Leviticus+ Provenzano+
Gravano vs Purgatory+
Cristeria vs Samyo
Messina vs Turkuz+
Memento vs İhtilal+
Righelli vs Kurosawa
Actually this is hard to believe, no family will organize a war on their own these days. For example if Marazzino is going to shoot Jannisary+ they will do it with Lucchese, Catania, Gravano, Messina, Memento never alone.
Shooting alone is so 2.4
asking out of curiosity, could you please tell me a single war from 2.4 which was "shooting alone" as you said ?
2.4 ended up with 3 giant alliances which had sister alliances and each alliance was formed by at least 10 fams.
General Comments & Major Rumors
14:19:56 - 04-01
Pact this, pact that. Massblooding is at its best but it is new ?
http://www.freewebs.com/mazdaaa/
Massblooding, if that is a term, is not new trend in omerta. On the other hand, worth of a blood to family, has changed drastically since old times. In old times, Ally would mean something like declaring you are not my prior target and blood word would mean, "we have to work together" but it wouldn't mean "we have to die together". Nowadays, blood means same as alliance, at least for many families.
When we first started to work together with conflict, curse, illusion and later on lucchese very close, main goal was to protect ourselfs from those families who shoots in groups and those who do nothing but wait for the 1st war and then shoot who remains. But later on, they kept shooting at us in groups and that just made us more close, not the other way. And then they formed bigger "pact duh" and here we are. You saw it yourself, how big that group was last version. Stats list was like the begining of reset, there were over than 30 families up and bla bla bla.
After this rate, there is only one thing to do, everyone should stop calling each others pact, when you blame some one else for what you are actually doing at, is just stupid. The pot is calling the kettle black. Try to look at in the mirror. Pick your bloods smart and go along with them.
http://www.freewebs.com/mazdaaa/
Massblooding, if that is a term, is not new trend in omerta. On the other hand, worth of a blood to family, has changed drastically since old times. In old times, Ally would mean something like declaring you are not my prior target and blood word would mean, "we have to work together" but it wouldn't mean "we have to die together". Nowadays, blood means same as alliance, at least for many families.
When we first started to work together with conflict, curse, illusion and later on lucchese very close, main goal was to protect ourselfs from those families who shoots in groups and those who do nothing but wait for the 1st war and then shoot who remains. But later on, they kept shooting at us in groups and that just made us more close, not the other way. And then they formed bigger "pact duh" and here we are. You saw it yourself, how big that group was last version. Stats list was like the begining of reset, there were over than 30 families up and bla bla bla.
After this rate, there is only one thing to do, everyone should stop calling each others pact, when you blame some one else for what you are actually doing at, is just stupid. The pot is calling the kettle black. Try to look at in the mirror. Pick your bloods smart and go along with them.
General Comments & Major Rumors
19:43:01 - 30-12
(A) Sasuke 30-12-2012 19:32:18 Mobster Bruinsma
Bruinsma cheaters !!!
They rank in the shadows, not even listed in all families list.
Bruinsma cheaters !!!
They rank in the shadows, not even listed in all families list.
10-12 Reset Wednesday 12th of December at 11 OT
20:27:48 - 10-12
sollid! get on irc :P
General Comments & Major Rumors
08:14:44 - 04-12
Reset the game so that we can rank up, shoot, die and have fun
and lamers can form bigger gayer alliances, longer bloods lists.
just do it
and lamers can form bigger gayer alliances, longer bloods lists.
just do it
02-12 Game over?
14:47:55 - 02-12
Respect this, respect that period again
Yeah another version ends here with fam take overs, zillion sissies and giant gay alliances.
Now reset it please
Yeah another version ends here with fam take overs, zillion sissies and giant gay alliances.
Now reset it please
17-11 Here it Comes
10:24:01 - 18-11
Making a game, turks vs blabla
Or dutchs vs blabla
Whoever is thinking like that, is moron. instead of having fun here, making it a contest to run who is gonna piss further, is just pathetic can be expected by only pathetic people.
Or dutchs vs blabla
Whoever is thinking like that, is moron. instead of having fun here, making it a contest to run who is gonna piss further, is just pathetic can be expected by only pathetic people.
17-11 Here it Comes
23:01:08 - 17-11
BoHeM (Top Turkuz): 'Pact' must not come back for this version. enough story :D
You dont need a statement for a war, after all whole game is based on eliminating opponents. But if you come up with such statement, it would only make one thing clear for me, which is i am trying to deal with such stupid people in this game.
i dont know any of those fams are dieing but again based on attacker's statement, the situation is the pot is calling the kettle black.
You dont need a statement for a war, after all whole game is based on eliminating opponents. But if you come up with such statement, it would only make one thing clear for me, which is i am trying to deal with such stupid people in this game.
i dont know any of those fams are dieing but again based on attacker's statement, the situation is the pot is calling the kettle black.
12-11 The battle for the Black Sea
07:38:02 - 13-11
Let me get this straight, Anadolu & Pentagram were bloods of Catania but they were planing to close the version while they are not blooded to eachothers, so they needed to get rid of their bloods to close a version with non bloods families. Pentagram weren't bloods with anadolu, nor with vertigo, Vertigo+Pentagram+Anadolu all were blooods of catania. Sounds smart and logical. I would expect nothing less from families like pentagram, anadolu+
So much drama out there.
Rip who died.
So much drama out there.
Rip who died.
General Comments & Major Rumors
19:54:50 - 06-11
real madrid vs bvb dortmund
interesting match...
and MC is hitting the grass at home, gooo ajax
interesting match...
and MC is hitting the grass at home, gooo ajax
29-10 Rate Reducers!
22:05:47 - 30-10
arceus at 11:53:52 on 30/10:
we did what we had to do. shoot for our blood.
And about Righelli no words for it:p....ask us for bloods and some days later shoot us.
hmm impressive move
Rip all who died
we did what we had to do. shoot for our blood.
And about Righelli no words for it:p....ask us for bloods and some days later shoot us.
hmm impressive move
Rip all who died
Dude, get over it. Grow up.
First of all, there is no righelli up this version, and there won't be. Our members are seperated in different families and you can see them with their righelli images or writings on their profiles. A small group of righelli people with new tops wanted to try something new which was Belvedere. As i know, they asked you to blood, you took whole omerta as bloods ( 7 bloods in total ) but refused them to be close to a certain group in the game and then speaking of good relations. Despite that, if it wasn't for bloods, they would never shoot you guys.
About the war, attacking families failed god damn badly in my opinion. They had over than 150 brugs and couldn't be able to kill over than 20 brugliones from target families. First wave was kind of a fail therefor they called for this bloody counter attack. Anyway rip who died.
Sollid; you are like Don Quixote, trying to fight windmills (anonymous guys), keep on your brave fight, i will send Sancho Panza to back up you, get your ass on irc btw.
Best regards,
SheLL
General Comments & Major Rumors
14:26:06 - 25-10
RD at 14:16:05 on 25/10:
shell is a prick no news about that :P
shell is a prick no news about that :P
Lol. Go shed tears upon your dead accounts. :p
Anyway, done with fungone.be for today. Bye anony haters. Kallihater and RD <3
General Comments & Major Rumors
13:54:23 - 25-10
Smul at 13:39:50 on 25/10:
Being merely a spectator in these talks between Kalliente and Shell, it does seem to me that, Kalliente has more issues with Righelli than Shell with Kalliente. But it's Shell who keeps throwing the cursewords and slander. At least Kalliente is keeping it civilised. Props on that.
Furthermore I don't see "hate" when I read Kalliente's messages, it's more contempt or dislike, nor is he blinded by it, it might to some degree cloud his judgement, but that's not the same. Seems like in both cases (hating and being blinded) Shell is exaggerating.
Now lets just finish this Discussion, as the info is getting repetetive.
!warrumours
Being merely a spectator in these talks between Kalliente and Shell, it does seem to me that, Kalliente has more issues with Righelli than Shell with Kalliente. But it's Shell who keeps throwing the cursewords and slander. At least Kalliente is keeping it civilised. Props on that.
Furthermore I don't see "hate" when I read Kalliente's messages, it's more contempt or dislike, nor is he blinded by it, it might to some degree cloud his judgement, but that's not the same. Seems like in both cases (hating and being blinded) Shell is exaggerating.
Now lets just finish this Discussion, as the info is getting repetetive.
!warrumours
But i cant keep it civilised when someone insists on telling same Biased words againg and again. About stupid part, it may be simply stating a fact sometines as in this case. Now go keep telling w/e you want to say about righell as i am done explaining myself, we know ehat we have done, our bloods know it, that is more than enough for us.
General Comments & Major Rumors
13:26:39 - 25-10
kalliente at 13:21:17 on 25/10:
Or better yet. Name one version righelli stood out without one of the big boys around. Already talked about the Shadows/Naz/Nocturne version and how trustful and respected you were so it doesn't count. :)
kalliente at 13:19:53 on 25/10:
2.1 LSO, 2.2 CCCE (unaccepted to claim that Conflict isn't CCCE) above all 2.71 Luch + Conflict with Righelli down halfway. more?
shell at 10:57:07 on 25/10:
Name a version that those fams made it to end or shut your mouth up to the end
kalliente at 10:53:13 on 25/10:
Anon posts? You see these posts as anonymous? Problem is that all the fams you re mentioning can get to the end without Righelli. You just seem to can't... Never did. And I never said that the families you work with don't respect you or trust you... But that wont change the facts of how you play and what you have accomplished. And as we say in Greece (in a free form translation): A repeating coincidence, stops being one.
shell at 10:47:15 on 25/10:
People who have never worked with us, has no clear idea on us. Confluct, lucchese, fumtore, curse, illusion, nuevitas, bruinsma, krays are we used to work together and they know us, about respect part, who respects who cant be known by some anon's posts. Our bloods respect us, yes we made it to the end of versions together with conflict but that also counts for them. We as together made it to the end. Conflict and righelli were single families, not an alliance as affinitas, so we had to work together and did. You just dont have any idea on what happened in those versions and pretending dmart here by making comments on things u have no idea about. We are respected enough. Way more than you think, and way more than your fams. Respected by people whom we worked with, rest, id ont care as they have no clear idea on how we roll or how we think.
kalliente at 10:35:58 on 25/10:
I don't take orders from people like you... I 'll do whatever I want. If you got a problem with it, stop answering me. I got my opinion and I 'll state it whenever and however I want. I 've been playing since 2.1 so I know history quite well. Go play it something you re not and a hotshot to people that don't know you. Leave the rest cause you can convince no one.
shell at 10:25:35 on 25/10:
Kalliente; idiocy speaks, as i said you are blindfolded by hate. Now leave righelli alone.
Kalliente; idiocy speaks, as i said you are blindfolded by hate. Now leave righelli alone.
I don't take orders from people like you... I 'll do whatever I want. If you got a problem with it, stop answering me. I got my opinion and I 'll state it whenever and however I want. I 've been playing since 2.1 so I know history quite well. Go play it something you re not and a hotshot to people that don't know you. Leave the rest cause you can convince no one.
Anon posts? You see these posts as anonymous? Problem is that all the fams you re mentioning can get to the end without Righelli. You just seem to can't... Never did. And I never said that the families you work with don't respect you or trust you... But that wont change the facts of how you play and what you have accomplished. And as we say in Greece (in a free form translation): A repeating coincidence, stops being one.
Name a version that those fams made it to end or shut your mouth up to the end
2.1 LSO, 2.2 CCCE (unaccepted to claim that Conflict isn't CCCE) above all 2.71 Luch + Conflict with Righelli down halfway. more?
Or better yet. Name one version righelli stood out without one of the big boys around. Already talked about the Shadows/Naz/Nocturne version and how trustful and respected you were so it doesn't count. :)
You are proving what i said, nothing else.my point was they needed us, we needed them to win, as conflict + righelli, we have done this much as alone, none of us could tand against all those alliances or groups. None of those fams made it to end, all did it as alliance or alliances. Lso were alliance, ccce were helped by righelli, 2.71 without righelli? Dude are you a stupid fuck or just a pretender? Imo the first one. And either a stupid fuck as you accept it or not, we have done way more than you could imagine to do in this game, this is my last post as you are just proving you are blinded but hate and nothing else.
General Comments & Major Rumors
10:57:07 - 25-10
kalliente at 10:53:13 on 25/10:
Anon posts? You see these posts as anonymous? Problem is that all the fams you re mentioning can get to the end without Righelli. You just seem to can't... Never did. And I never said that the families you work with don't respect you or trust you... But that wont change the facts of how you play and what you have accomplished. And as we say in Greece (in a free form translation): A repeating coincidence, stops being one.
shell at 10:47:15 on 25/10:
People who have never worked with us, has no clear idea on us. Confluct, lucchese, fumtore, curse, illusion, nuevitas, bruinsma, krays are we used to work together and they know us, about respect part, who respects who cant be known by some anon's posts. Our bloods respect us, yes we made it to the end of versions together with conflict but that also counts for them. We as together made it to the end. Conflict and righelli were single families, not an alliance as affinitas, so we had to work together and did. You just dont have any idea on what happened in those versions and pretending dmart here by making comments on things u have no idea about. We are respected enough. Way more than you think, and way more than your fams. Respected by people whom we worked with, rest, id ont care as they have no clear idea on how we roll or how we think.
kalliente at 10:35:58 on 25/10:
I don't take orders from people like you... I 'll do whatever I want. If you got a problem with it, stop answering me. I got my opinion and I 'll state it whenever and however I want. I 've been playing since 2.1 so I know history quite well. Go play it something you re not and a hotshot to people that don't know you. Leave the rest cause you can convince no one.
shell at 10:25:35 on 25/10:
Kalliente; idiocy speaks, as i said you are blindfolded by hate. Now leave righelli alone.
Kalliente; idiocy speaks, as i said you are blindfolded by hate. Now leave righelli alone.
I don't take orders from people like you... I 'll do whatever I want. If you got a problem with it, stop answering me. I got my opinion and I 'll state it whenever and however I want. I 've been playing since 2.1 so I know history quite well. Go play it something you re not and a hotshot to people that don't know you. Leave the rest cause you can convince no one.
Anon posts? You see these posts as anonymous? Problem is that all the fams you re mentioning can get to the end without Righelli. You just seem to can't... Never did. And I never said that the families you work with don't respect you or trust you... But that wont change the facts of how you play and what you have accomplished. And as we say in Greece (in a free form translation): A repeating coincidence, stops being one.
Name a version that those fams made it to end or shut your mouth up to the end
And leonhart logs pls, give rd his 15 minutes
Ps: sbanks, could you fic the story? Killing someone in righelli means you are killing righelli, not the fams are mot up. Ty in advance