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General Comments & Major Rumors
20:51:44 - 31-07
21-05 Syndrum says hello!
20:08:40 - 21-05
slau at 19:46:12 on 21/05:
LOOL lamme is when you need to get 4/5 familys to kill one with 15 brugs :')
shell at 19:30:57 on 21/05:
the lamest war of the history of omerta, nothing else to add.
rip
the lamest war of the history of omerta, nothing else to add.
rip
LOOL lamme is when you need to get 4/5 familys to kill one with 15 brugs :')
oh slau..lol
General Comments & Major Rumors
15:28:30 - 19-05
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From: Geordiejamie
Type: Personal
Sent: 19-May @ 15:18:28
Hey, would you like to join with our family.
Our family masseria is awesome
And if you are new, we will help you to get started fast.
We have a nice chatroom where most of our members hang out and have fun.
Can you let me know what do you think about it?
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From: Tijgertje
Type: Personal
Sent: 19-May @ 13:05:21
Hey, would you like to join with our family.
Our family anonymous is awesome
And if you are new, we will help you to get started fast.
We have a nice chatroom where most of our members hang out and have fun.
Can you let me know what do you think about it?
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lol?
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From: Geordiejamie
Type: Personal
Sent: 19-May @ 15:18:28
Hey, would you like to join with our family.
Our family masseria is awesome
And if you are new, we will help you to get started fast.
We have a nice chatroom where most of our members hang out and have fun.
Can you let me know what do you think about it?
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From: Tijgertje
Type: Personal
Sent: 19-May @ 13:05:21
Hey, would you like to join with our family.
Our family anonymous is awesome
And if you are new, we will help you to get started fast.
We have a nice chatroom where most of our members hang out and have fun.
Can you let me know what do you think about it?
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lol?
General Comments & Major Rumors
19:56:36 - 13-04
yamaguchi at 18:14:13 on 13/04:
lol ppl weird, conflict was claiming they arenot ccce after conflict up now they are making family logo with beautiful stars, also vinci claiming victory which those versions ended with 40+ family
if u wanna see a victory check 3.1, we built a republic without blooding oldschool powerhouses
conflict victories must be claimed by zengas proxy army from gaypact times
lol ppl weird, conflict was claiming they arenot ccce after conflict up now they are making family logo with beautiful stars, also vinci claiming victory which those versions ended with 40+ family
if u wanna see a victory check 3.1, we built a republic without blooding oldschool powerhouses
conflict victories must be claimed by zengas proxy army from gaypact times
I'm sorry, u are right..u are the best, all the other from every single fam suck..
oh dear yama..u don't see u just make people laugh? :| poor guy!
26-02 London Bridge is falling down
23:36:05 - 26-02
Timelord at 23:34:19 on 26/02:
And it just took quirites Vaffanc eh Marang Liberta and Guantamo.
Damn you must have been scared to death. :')
ght at 23:27:16 on 26/02:
Margot 26-02-2012 23:20:30 First Lady Krays
mission accomplished xD
ght at 23:25:01 on 26/02:
%cnwr ([email protected]) has left #krays
rdy guys? he is preparing to shot krays xD
%cnwr ([email protected]) has left #krays
rdy guys? he is preparing to shot krays xD
Margot 26-02-2012 23:20:30 First Lady Krays
mission accomplished xD
And it just took quirites Vaffanc eh Marang Liberta and Guantamo.
Damn you must have been scared to death. :')
08-02 War of the flowers
23:54:56 - 08-02
father at 23:36:42 on 08/02:
hey vinci are u scare only 20 brugs ahahahaahhaa :D we thought vinci was brave and we would war only vinci but they are chicken :D conflict marangello and vinci is shoting only 20 brugliones puhahahaah :D they are idiot and you wont win wars!Vinci believes destiny,marangello and conflict are living with destiny and XZONE is writing destiny ;)
good luck and thx all xzone soldiers war havent finished yet and we will kill 3-4 bruglione too :D
hey vinci are u scare only 20 brugs ahahahaahhaa :D we thought vinci was brave and we would war only vinci but they are chicken :D conflict marangello and vinci is shoting only 20 brugliones puhahahaah :D they are idiot and you wont win wars!Vinci believes destiny,marangello and conflict are living with destiny and XZONE is writing destiny ;)
good luck and thx all xzone soldiers war havent finished yet and we will kill 3-4 bruglione too :D
lol
General Comments & Major Rumors
16:41:34 - 15-01
Anonymous at 14:40:51 on 15/01:
Conflict back #1 it seems :\
Conflict back #1 it seems :\
That's a bug for sure!
27-12 And we are done?!
21:03:56 - 27-12
Jonsered at 14:47:27 on 27/12:
Yeah, smartass. Shoot with famless LC's right? And even if succeed - then feel suicides of their angry assassins?
Limit makes sense in midgame, but good start gives too much advantage, so more fams should be allowed to start.
Maybe 50 would be more proper number.
Anonymous at 14:37:13 on 27/12:
_o_ best comment candidate for 3.3
at least family spot means something with that limit, 36 is decent number as we can see. if it was 50+, then there would be no reason to shoot at first 2 months
Anonymous at 13:55:34 on 27/12:
Shoot for your place, dumbasses.
Shoot for your place, dumbasses.
_o_ best comment candidate for 3.3
at least family spot means something with that limit, 36 is decent number as we can see. if it was 50+, then there would be no reason to shoot at first 2 months
Yeah, smartass. Shoot with famless LC's right? And even if succeed - then feel suicides of their angry assassins?
Limit makes sense in midgame, but good start gives too much advantage, so more fams should be allowed to start.
Maybe 50 would be more proper number.
10-12 Winner 3.2?
22:08:02 - 12-12
eyupdayi at 21:16:39 on 12/12:
How could you understand the all speech like that?
i know a shrink he might help you but i do not promise you'll be well b'couse you are at hard case poor boy
FlowzZ at 20:06:39 on 12/12:
Are you saying you have 1000 dupes ? ;')
Mother of god i dont wanna ever fight you ingame xD
eyupdayi at 19:45:12 on 12/12:
spanks,
We have just looked at the judgement of this vote. If we had succeied what we were trying it means that this vote is shit and anyone can play with this vote.
If we really wanted to fuck this vote we could vote over 1000 times.
So dear sir/madam spanks turkuz is high above your knowladge so please learn some history of omerta and then reply this msg.
Best regards
Eyupdayi
MaFia at 18:45:42 on 12/12:
check votes sipanks ;) not your opinions
sbanks at 10:54:30 on 11/12:
no sir, u don't, not at all.
i just removed 12+ accounts (all regged on same ip) who you used to vote on your shitty cheating family.
as you see i also removed the votes.
i also removed the votes who were obviously were added by another person using the same ip & proxies for several votes.
Turkuz will never win, they only win in cheating, like already stated in the screenshot above, most akills? TURKUZ.
i know i shouldnt be objective, but people creating multiple accounts to vote on a poll to be winner in some game.. i mean.. COMMON get a freaking life!!
turkuz at 09:47:36 on 11/12:
we win \o/
we win \o/
no sir, u don't, not at all.
i just removed 12+ accounts (all regged on same ip) who you used to vote on your shitty cheating family.
as you see i also removed the votes.
i also removed the votes who were obviously were added by another person using the same ip & proxies for several votes.
Turkuz will never win, they only win in cheating, like already stated in the screenshot above, most akills? TURKUZ.
i know i shouldnt be objective, but people creating multiple accounts to vote on a poll to be winner in some game.. i mean.. COMMON get a freaking life!!
check votes sipanks ;) not your opinions
spanks,
We have just looked at the judgement of this vote. If we had succeied what we were trying it means that this vote is shit and anyone can play with this vote.
If we really wanted to fuck this vote we could vote over 1000 times.
So dear sir/madam spanks turkuz is high above your knowladge so please learn some history of omerta and then reply this msg.
Best regards
Eyupdayi
Are you saying you have 1000 dupes ? ;')
Mother of god i dont wanna ever fight you ingame xD
How could you understand the all speech like that?
i know a shrink he might help you but i do not promise you'll be well b'couse you are at hard case poor boy
that's like saying u use dupes on omerta just to see if it's possible to cheat..
Will anyone believe on that lame/stupid answer?
If anyone on this version believes he is a winner, that just shows how the game is wrong and boring atm.
02-11 Gambino under attack
21:11:46 - 05-11
Anonymous at 20:33:02 on 05/11:
LOL, first of all, above mentioned 'as 1' are incorrect. Secondly, know your facts before you talk. Long time you showed us something yourself lunatiko. Bashing without knowing shit is not your style, is it? ;)
lunatiko at 20:21:42 on 05/11:
indeed..
surviving doing everything just to stay alive..like jumping from an alliance to another is not doing great!
keep up with the good work! LOL
Anonymous at 09:56:13 on 04/11:
small families will 4ever be a parasite :)
Noxx at 15:49:37 on 03/11:
Wondering who you are to complain that much about us!! Do I know you? Did we hurt your feelings of familly?? And if you keep track on us, why not showing your nick?? :) Or just wanna hate and bash for fun?? I don't mind mate, we/I have fun with or without your remarks!!
Anonymous at 14:21:30 on 03/11:
as 1 with gambino
as 1 with carneglia
as 1 with asfu
doing great. lol.....
Noxx at 12:55:30 on 03/11:
If I poste, I will use my nick. I never poste anonymous! And yes, I do agree with the anonymous guy that Legends is doing great atm. But that's my personal opinon, and you can have yours. I don't mind if these differ.
Btw, nice that you thought it was me, I feel honoured!! And yes, I do have a life!!
Anonymous at 12:22:03 on 03/11:
success of legends??? lol noxx get a fucking life ;)
success of legends??? lol noxx get a fucking life ;)
If I poste, I will use my nick. I never poste anonymous! And yes, I do agree with the anonymous guy that Legends is doing great atm. But that's my personal opinon, and you can have yours. I don't mind if these differ.
Btw, nice that you thought it was me, I feel honoured!! And yes, I do have a life!!
as 1 with gambino
as 1 with carneglia
as 1 with asfu
doing great. lol.....
Wondering who you are to complain that much about us!! Do I know you? Did we hurt your feelings of familly?? And if you keep track on us, why not showing your nick?? :) Or just wanna hate and bash for fun?? I don't mind mate, we/I have fun with or without your remarks!!
surviving doing everything just to stay alive..like jumping from an alliance to another is not doing great!
keep up with the good work! LOL
LOL, first of all, above mentioned 'as 1' are incorrect. Secondly, know your facts before you talk. Long time you showed us something yourself lunatiko. Bashing without knowing shit is not your style, is it? ;)
so tell me what is there to talk about legendary 'legends' ? My opinion and i bet most opinions surely don't say legends is doing great..but..if u feel bashed..your problem..
PS.: I don't have to show you nothing..maybe legends should besides doing as one's lol and don't tell me it was just one.. lol
02-11 Gambino under attack
20:21:42 - 05-11
Anonymous at 09:56:13 on 04/11:
small families will 4ever be a parasite :)
Noxx at 15:49:37 on 03/11:
Wondering who you are to complain that much about us!! Do I know you? Did we hurt your feelings of familly?? And if you keep track on us, why not showing your nick?? :) Or just wanna hate and bash for fun?? I don't mind mate, we/I have fun with or without your remarks!!
Anonymous at 14:21:30 on 03/11:
as 1 with gambino
as 1 with carneglia
as 1 with asfu
doing great. lol.....
Noxx at 12:55:30 on 03/11:
If I poste, I will use my nick. I never poste anonymous! And yes, I do agree with the anonymous guy that Legends is doing great atm. But that's my personal opinon, and you can have yours. I don't mind if these differ.
Btw, nice that you thought it was me, I feel honoured!! And yes, I do have a life!!
Anonymous at 12:22:03 on 03/11:
success of legends??? lol noxx get a fucking life ;)
success of legends??? lol noxx get a fucking life ;)
If I poste, I will use my nick. I never poste anonymous! And yes, I do agree with the anonymous guy that Legends is doing great atm. But that's my personal opinon, and you can have yours. I don't mind if these differ.
Btw, nice that you thought it was me, I feel honoured!! And yes, I do have a life!!
as 1 with gambino
as 1 with carneglia
as 1 with asfu
doing great. lol.....
Wondering who you are to complain that much about us!! Do I know you? Did we hurt your feelings of familly?? And if you keep track on us, why not showing your nick?? :) Or just wanna hate and bash for fun?? I don't mind mate, we/I have fun with or without your remarks!!
surviving doing everything just to stay alive..like jumping from an alliance to another is not doing great!
keep up with the good work! LOL
02-11 Gambino under attack
20:16:30 - 05-11
Anonymous at 18:07:26 on 04/11:
1º I know venture wont shoot Traffi, If they wanna to, they would have done that long time ago
2º Is their fault other bloods shoot eachother ?
3º Dont speak things you dont know about!
4º I myself aint big fam traffi/venture and many others but I know the facts !
5º You can play since 1.0 Im still saying u dunno shit about those fams ;)
PannaJunk at 14:08:46 on 04/11:
First I didnt said I knew, so I guess you newbie should start reading or learn how to read.
I said first: Question for Traffi, how much bloods did you lose so far by the hand of your other bloods ?
Thats a Question towards traffi I didnt say they would do something
2nd: Most logic step now is that Venture will finish Traffi so that vers can be closed by venture/xzone/aspava and co.
That means its most logic, fams could do something else thats their choice, in my opinion this is the most logic step.
3rd: Wonder if traffi remains to do the same, sit back and do nothing :)
Thats based on facts in earlier versions wich brings back the fact I do know about that because of my omerta history.
Conclusion: Touche mr. Anonymous
First I didnt said I knew, so I guess you newbie should start reading or learn how to read.
I said first: Question for Traffi, how much bloods did you lose so far by the hand of your other bloods ?
Thats a Question towards traffi I didnt say they would do something
2nd: Most logic step now is that Venture will finish Traffi so that vers can be closed by venture/xzone/aspava and co.
That means its most logic, fams could do something else thats their choice, in my opinion this is the most logic step.
3rd: Wonder if traffi remains to do the same, sit back and do nothing :)
Thats based on facts in earlier versions wich brings back the fact I do know about that because of my omerta history.
Conclusion: Touche mr. Anonymous
1º I know venture wont shoot Traffi, If they wanna to, they would have done that long time ago
2º Is their fault other bloods shoot eachother ?
3º Dont speak things you dont know about!
4º I myself aint big fam traffi/venture and many others but I know the facts !
5º You can play since 1.0 Im still saying u dunno shit about those fams ;)
General Comments & Major Rumors
14:23:13 - 19-10
Noobster at 13:58:59 on 19/10:
Don't get me wrong, I don't play smartass. Just give my opinion and then you start calling names. Dude, relax a bit! if you prefer to play only once a version, no problem for me. If you don't like hugging, no problem for me. You choice! But if you are complaing for months about version and that everything is changed negatively, then you should consider if you still wanna play this game or not. If you wanna play, accept the fact that things have changed or stop complaining. Nothing will change by complaining!!
And nope, I don't know everything about conflict. Only thing I know is that they still act like they used to do and which brought them/ou fame and glory, but which is not the last versions in 'new'style! So, probably you cannot/want to adapt, but then glory won't be yours anymore! :D Besides, nothing is proven about my tactic, since none of you have tried it and ignored the questions about it! :P
lunatiko at 13:46:46 on 19/10:
Actually no, noobster..we didn't have a big bloodlist! but ofc u can give me examples..and why should conflict upgrade?cause we don't like to play like puppetz and huggers?
you are a smartass, u dunno shit about conflict, and 3 persons prooved you were wrong about wars..now tell me..on what should conflict upgrade?
new tops so we can have more bloods and shoot less..that's why we always have our core group that probably is the biggest in omerta..version after version..even if we just play once a version..
Actually no, noobster..we didn't have a big bloodlist! but ofc u can give me examples..and why should conflict upgrade?cause we don't like to play like puppetz and huggers?
you are a smartass, u dunno shit about conflict, and 3 persons prooved you were wrong about wars..now tell me..on what should conflict upgrade?
new tops so we can have more bloods and shoot less..that's why we always have our core group that probably is the biggest in omerta..version after version..even if we just play once a version..
Don't get me wrong, I don't play smartass. Just give my opinion and then you start calling names. Dude, relax a bit! if you prefer to play only once a version, no problem for me. If you don't like hugging, no problem for me. You choice! But if you are complaing for months about version and that everything is changed negatively, then you should consider if you still wanna play this game or not. If you wanna play, accept the fact that things have changed or stop complaining. Nothing will change by complaining!!
And nope, I don't know everything about conflict. Only thing I know is that they still act like they used to do and which brought them/ou fame and glory, but which is not the last versions in 'new'style! So, probably you cannot/want to adapt, but then glory won't be yours anymore! :D Besides, nothing is proven about my tactic, since none of you have tried it and ignored the questions about it! :P
and that's why also,.they will change most things!
cause people complainted..and that's why admins even asked..if players wanted the changes right now. ofc changing things in the midle of a version is even worst but at least reset it fast..since new changes are coming !
General Comments & Major Rumors
13:46:46 - 19-10
Actually no, noobster..we didn't have a big bloodlist! but ofc u can give me examples..and why should conflict upgrade?cause we don't like to play like puppetz and huggers?
you are a smartass, u dunno shit about conflict, and 3 persons prooved you were wrong about wars..now tell me..on what should conflict upgrade?
new tops so we can have more bloods and shoot less..that's why we always have our core group that probably is the biggest in omerta..version after version..even if we just play once a version..
you are a smartass, u dunno shit about conflict, and 3 persons prooved you were wrong about wars..now tell me..on what should conflict upgrade?
new tops so we can have more bloods and shoot less..that's why we always have our core group that probably is the biggest in omerta..version after version..even if we just play once a version..
General Comments & Major Rumors
12:24:03 - 19-10
Noobster at 11:57:40 on 19/10:
LOL, exactly the respons I expected! How predictable! :P So you say only top 10 fams have objects and that huggers are stronger? Gaining the cash is not that hard, you know that. I think you have a huggerproblem, since you only complain about huggers, huggers and huggers... It's about 600k a target for dets, 20 targets, so like 12 million a target. If all 10 ppl search it will cost about 120 million, which is easy money for a strong fam. if you can't agree that your fam, who had roullie's in the past, didn't have 120 million, you must retire directly! :P
Not all 10 shooters have to shoot, remember? They only have to hire, so they can shoot successors! If you preshoot, then you have to shoot like 6 times in total before fam dies. if not, perhaps 10 max! :) So you say that the Don of sisfam presi was easy target? Lol, know your facts please! And secondly, destiny was easy target? Just learn some planning and keep tracing and tracking during the shooting. And if you are in a top 10 position yourself from the start, why not shooting all threats with the 5 bloods you have down as soon as they become stronger. Questions for you: Did you ever tried the above? Secondly, how many times did you shot in the morning/night?
lunatiko at 11:38:43 on 19/10:
ty for the lesson..but it's insane.
LOOOOOL who can agree on that?! are u nuts?
U won't get that type of money if your fam is not on top fams..huggers are! 10 trustable guys don't kill a fam..unless it's a fam like temp shot..
facts:huggers have better accounts.
huggers have money
u don't kill a hugger in one shot..so u would need at least 2 people for every target and sometimes isn't even enough..since u would be diening on f..even if u just pre shot..
and i said it already?!
your war basis is completely nonsense unless u are shooting a small fam!
keep it real.
don't dream !
Noobster at 11:25:37 on 19/10:
I agree that the current style is not my favourite either, but complainng about it doesn't change things! So better adapt, else I will be frustrated like you and many others. What it was, is not important anymore, just accept the world is changing. And if you don't like the new style, stop playing or act! Most tops of old fams complain indeed, since they all face the same problem. I love to see them back, since they can change the game, but as long as they don't change themselves....
About shooting a 50 brug fam, do I really need to tell you how to shoot them? Thought you were top.... Ok, simple and easy, the only thing you need is lots of cash (top fams have the objects, so the cash...) and like 10 shooters. You can look at different sites who are tops in fams (many fams change their top 3 positions quit often for boosting) and you know who are tops in big fams, even if they aren't in top 3 position. Just hire on the most logical successors and some extra, so about 20 tagets in total (you know which brugs won't be successor, due to amount of online time, position etc..). Shoot the don, shoot successor and after that, shoot the last in line.. IN 15 min you have the fam down! Then the hunting can start, since we all know that famless brugs are much eaasier to kill. Start shooting for the objects, so they loose their power. Keep track on all 50 brugs/highranks who suddenly become richer then god (they are in the testament)and shoot them, so the fam can't get up soon again. is it really that easy? YES IT IS!!
Finding 10 trustable shooters/dupes who will do this during the night/morning etc, won't be that hard if you are in one of the old/large fams. This is how temp gained their HQ....
I think you won't agree on it but that's why your fam perhaps is not on top anymore...:P
lunatiko at 10:30:10 on 19/10:
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
Noobster at 09:57:42 on 19/10:
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
lol at 09:28:36 on 19/10:
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Noobster at 07:10:48 on 19/10:
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
I agree that the current style is not my favourite either, but complainng about it doesn't change things! So better adapt, else I will be frustrated like you and many others. What it was, is not important anymore, just accept the world is changing. And if you don't like the new style, stop playing or act! Most tops of old fams complain indeed, since they all face the same problem. I love to see them back, since they can change the game, but as long as they don't change themselves....
About shooting a 50 brug fam, do I really need to tell you how to shoot them? Thought you were top.... Ok, simple and easy, the only thing you need is lots of cash (top fams have the objects, so the cash...) and like 10 shooters. You can look at different sites who are tops in fams (many fams change their top 3 positions quit often for boosting) and you know who are tops in big fams, even if they aren't in top 3 position. Just hire on the most logical successors and some extra, so about 20 tagets in total (you know which brugs won't be successor, due to amount of online time, position etc..). Shoot the don, shoot successor and after that, shoot the last in line.. IN 15 min you have the fam down! Then the hunting can start, since we all know that famless brugs are much eaasier to kill. Start shooting for the objects, so they loose their power. Keep track on all 50 brugs/highranks who suddenly become richer then god (they are in the testament)and shoot them, so the fam can't get up soon again. is it really that easy? YES IT IS!!
Finding 10 trustable shooters/dupes who will do this during the night/morning etc, won't be that hard if you are in one of the old/large fams. This is how temp gained their HQ....
I think you won't agree on it but that's why your fam perhaps is not on top anymore...:P
LOOOOOL who can agree on that?! are u nuts?
U won't get that type of money if your fam is not on top fams..huggers are! 10 trustable guys don't kill a fam..unless it's a fam like temp shot..
facts:huggers have better accounts.
huggers have money
u don't kill a hugger in one shot..so u would need at least 2 people for every target and sometimes isn't even enough..since u would be diening on f..even if u just pre shot..
and i said it already?!
your war basis is completely nonsense unless u are shooting a small fam!
keep it real.
don't dream !
LOL, exactly the respons I expected! How predictable! :P So you say only top 10 fams have objects and that huggers are stronger? Gaining the cash is not that hard, you know that. I think you have a huggerproblem, since you only complain about huggers, huggers and huggers... It's about 600k a target for dets, 20 targets, so like 12 million a target. If all 10 ppl search it will cost about 120 million, which is easy money for a strong fam. if you can't agree that your fam, who had roullie's in the past, didn't have 120 million, you must retire directly! :P
Not all 10 shooters have to shoot, remember? They only have to hire, so they can shoot successors! If you preshoot, then you have to shoot like 6 times in total before fam dies. if not, perhaps 10 max! :) So you say that the Don of sisfam presi was easy target? Lol, know your facts please! And secondly, destiny was easy target? Just learn some planning and keep tracing and tracking during the shooting. And if you are in a top 10 position yourself from the start, why not shooting all threats with the 5 bloods you have down as soon as they become stronger. Questions for you: Did you ever tried the above? Secondly, how many times did you shot in the morning/night?
and yes i tried it from the start..almost every version..and yes i shot at almost everyhour you want..or don't you agree conflict is one of the most shooting fams in the game..
i complain about huggers..and i will always..it's a noob style and a pussy style..i guess i can dislike it right?so why can't i say it..
and for some reason, that will change with the new changes..u won't have 100+ fams with the new version that's for sure!
and again read what i wrote!! I'm not talking about 1 target..i'm talking about shooting a top 10 fam!have you ever tried it succesfull?with 15 shooters?tell me when..causa saying it it's easy..doing it..i bet you never did it.
General Comments & Major Rumors
11:54:56 - 19-10
Anonymous at 11:47:06 on 19/10:
lol...when did you shoot last time? for higher ranked offline targets you'll need 6 shooters to preshoot, and some of them will die in BF. Every of those preshooters will have to rebuy bg's (if they survive BF). Killing high ranked gf easy? You'll have to shoot 3-4 times 60k to kill him...if he comes online, rebuy blood and bg's you'll need even more. All these shooters on GF will die in BF. With 10 shooters as you say, you can't do a shit. If you are lucky, you'll take down 2-3 top accounts and that's it. In the meantime you can expect that their bloods will hire on you and take you down without any problem.
So stop being smartass and tell ppl how to kill a family:")
Noobster at 11:25:37 on 19/10:
I agree that the current style is not my favourite either, but complainng about it doesn't change things! So better adapt, else I will be frustrated like you and many others. What it was, is not important anymore, just accept the world is changing. And if you don't like the new style, stop playing or act! Most tops of old fams complain indeed, since they all face the same problem. I love to see them back, since they can change the game, but as long as they don't change themselves....
About shooting a 50 brug fam, do I really need to tell you how to shoot them? Thought you were top.... Ok, simple and easy, the only thing you need is lots of cash (top fams have the objects, so the cash...) and like 10 shooters. You can look at different sites who are tops in fams (many fams change their top 3 positions quit often for boosting) and you know who are tops in big fams, even if they aren't in top 3 position. Just hire on the most logical successors and some extra, so about 20 tagets in total (you know which brugs won't be successor, due to amount of online time, position etc..). Shoot the don, shoot successor and after that, shoot the last in line.. IN 15 min you have the fam down! Then the hunting can start, since we all know that famless brugs are much eaasier to kill. Start shooting for the objects, so they loose their power. Keep track on all 50 brugs/highranks who suddenly become richer then god (they are in the testament)and shoot them, so the fam can't get up soon again. is it really that easy? YES IT IS!!
Finding 10 trustable shooters/dupes who will do this during the night/morning etc, won't be that hard if you are in one of the old/large fams. This is how temp gained their HQ....
I think you won't agree on it but that's why your fam perhaps is not on top anymore...:P
lunatiko at 10:30:10 on 19/10:
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
Noobster at 09:57:42 on 19/10:
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
lol at 09:28:36 on 19/10:
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Noobster at 07:10:48 on 19/10:
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
I agree that the current style is not my favourite either, but complainng about it doesn't change things! So better adapt, else I will be frustrated like you and many others. What it was, is not important anymore, just accept the world is changing. And if you don't like the new style, stop playing or act! Most tops of old fams complain indeed, since they all face the same problem. I love to see them back, since they can change the game, but as long as they don't change themselves....
About shooting a 50 brug fam, do I really need to tell you how to shoot them? Thought you were top.... Ok, simple and easy, the only thing you need is lots of cash (top fams have the objects, so the cash...) and like 10 shooters. You can look at different sites who are tops in fams (many fams change their top 3 positions quit often for boosting) and you know who are tops in big fams, even if they aren't in top 3 position. Just hire on the most logical successors and some extra, so about 20 tagets in total (you know which brugs won't be successor, due to amount of online time, position etc..). Shoot the don, shoot successor and after that, shoot the last in line.. IN 15 min you have the fam down! Then the hunting can start, since we all know that famless brugs are much eaasier to kill. Start shooting for the objects, so they loose their power. Keep track on all 50 brugs/highranks who suddenly become richer then god (they are in the testament)and shoot them, so the fam can't get up soon again. is it really that easy? YES IT IS!!
Finding 10 trustable shooters/dupes who will do this during the night/morning etc, won't be that hard if you are in one of the old/large fams. This is how temp gained their HQ....
I think you won't agree on it but that's why your fam perhaps is not on top anymore...:P
lol...when did you shoot last time? for higher ranked offline targets you'll need 6 shooters to preshoot, and some of them will die in BF. Every of those preshooters will have to rebuy bg's (if they survive BF). Killing high ranked gf easy? You'll have to shoot 3-4 times 60k to kill him...if he comes online, rebuy blood and bg's you'll need even more. All these shooters on GF will die in BF. With 10 shooters as you say, you can't do a shit. If you are lucky, you'll take down 2-3 top accounts and that's it. In the meantime you can expect that their bloods will hire on you and take you down without any problem.
So stop being smartass and tell ppl how to kill a family:")
so +1 xD
General Comments & Major Rumors
11:46:18 - 19-10
and i can tell you more..
since u brought temp's name..i could remember the 10 versions when temp suicided for nothing..so if u think that's how it should be played..then yes i agree on your war tactic lol
but probably and just probably my fam likes to be succesfull and we don't suicide for nothing.
your plan is suicide against huggers..if u can't see it, then i won't answer you more.
since u brought temp's name..i could remember the 10 versions when temp suicided for nothing..so if u think that's how it should be played..then yes i agree on your war tactic lol
but probably and just probably my fam likes to be succesfull and we don't suicide for nothing.
your plan is suicide against huggers..if u can't see it, then i won't answer you more.
General Comments & Major Rumors
11:38:43 - 19-10
Noobster at 11:25:37 on 19/10:
I agree that the current style is not my favourite either, but complainng about it doesn't change things! So better adapt, else I will be frustrated like you and many others. What it was, is not important anymore, just accept the world is changing. And if you don't like the new style, stop playing or act! Most tops of old fams complain indeed, since they all face the same problem. I love to see them back, since they can change the game, but as long as they don't change themselves....
About shooting a 50 brug fam, do I really need to tell you how to shoot them? Thought you were top.... Ok, simple and easy, the only thing you need is lots of cash (top fams have the objects, so the cash...) and like 10 shooters. You can look at different sites who are tops in fams (many fams change their top 3 positions quit often for boosting) and you know who are tops in big fams, even if they aren't in top 3 position. Just hire on the most logical successors and some extra, so about 20 tagets in total (you know which brugs won't be successor, due to amount of online time, position etc..). Shoot the don, shoot successor and after that, shoot the last in line.. IN 15 min you have the fam down! Then the hunting can start, since we all know that famless brugs are much eaasier to kill. Start shooting for the objects, so they loose their power. Keep track on all 50 brugs/highranks who suddenly become richer then god (they are in the testament)and shoot them, so the fam can't get up soon again. is it really that easy? YES IT IS!!
Finding 10 trustable shooters/dupes who will do this during the night/morning etc, won't be that hard if you are in one of the old/large fams. This is how temp gained their HQ....
I think you won't agree on it but that's why your fam perhaps is not on top anymore...:P
lunatiko at 10:30:10 on 19/10:
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
Noobster at 09:57:42 on 19/10:
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
lol at 09:28:36 on 19/10:
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Noobster at 07:10:48 on 19/10:
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
I agree that the current style is not my favourite either, but complainng about it doesn't change things! So better adapt, else I will be frustrated like you and many others. What it was, is not important anymore, just accept the world is changing. And if you don't like the new style, stop playing or act! Most tops of old fams complain indeed, since they all face the same problem. I love to see them back, since they can change the game, but as long as they don't change themselves....
About shooting a 50 brug fam, do I really need to tell you how to shoot them? Thought you were top.... Ok, simple and easy, the only thing you need is lots of cash (top fams have the objects, so the cash...) and like 10 shooters. You can look at different sites who are tops in fams (many fams change their top 3 positions quit often for boosting) and you know who are tops in big fams, even if they aren't in top 3 position. Just hire on the most logical successors and some extra, so about 20 tagets in total (you know which brugs won't be successor, due to amount of online time, position etc..). Shoot the don, shoot successor and after that, shoot the last in line.. IN 15 min you have the fam down! Then the hunting can start, since we all know that famless brugs are much eaasier to kill. Start shooting for the objects, so they loose their power. Keep track on all 50 brugs/highranks who suddenly become richer then god (they are in the testament)and shoot them, so the fam can't get up soon again. is it really that easy? YES IT IS!!
Finding 10 trustable shooters/dupes who will do this during the night/morning etc, won't be that hard if you are in one of the old/large fams. This is how temp gained their HQ....
I think you won't agree on it but that's why your fam perhaps is not on top anymore...:P
LOOOOOL who can agree on that?! are u nuts?
U won't get that type of money if your fam is not on top fams..huggers are! 10 trustable guys don't kill a fam..unless it's a fam like temp shot..
facts:huggers have better accounts.
huggers have money
u don't kill a hugger in one shot..so u would need at least 2 people for every target and sometimes isn't even enough..since u would be diening on f..even if u just pre shot..
and i said it already?!
your war basis is completely nonsense unless u are shooting a small fam!
keep it real.
don't dream !
General Comments & Major Rumors
10:30:10 - 19-10
Noobster at 09:57:42 on 19/10:
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
lol at 09:28:36 on 19/10:
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Noobster at 07:10:48 on 19/10:
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.
So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.
And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!
Cheers:W
You must be in trafficante or some other hugger fam :'x
Nope, I don't, neither to another hugging fam. But you sound frustrated and like you are part of an 'old familly' who couldn't adapt! Probably you think that all current fams who are still alive are huggers!:D Don't take it personally, it was just my evaluation about the haters.
funny..
your lack of knowledge about this game is impressive..
Ofc this version is shit..ofc 100+ fams is plain stupid..ofc offline targets harder to kill is ridicolous..this game used to be a shooting game, and people used to shoot for objects, for spots, cause they don't like target fams etc..nowadays u don't shoot.
most of fams on top are indeed fams that didn't shoot to get there..and hugged till they can be there..and still there they don't shoot!
fams nowadays choose bloods to survive and not to shoot or cause they trust them..
yeah it's a newstyle..yeah maybe you like it..
we will see next version when it changes if you will like it..
and yes it's just my opinion..that most people agree on it! Most old fams motivate their rankers as much times they want..and i can be sure of that since i'm top of one of those.
You compared arcanine shooting..usually having one target..with having a complete 50 brugs to target that hugged all version and surely have better accounts..even if you shoot 3 to 1..u can't do it preshooting..and even preshooting is dangerous..u would be down to 1 to 3 in no time!but are u sure u know it?i doubt it!
and i'm curious about what fam are you in..will u dare to say it?
03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
09:21:57 - 04-10
Lots of bla bla bla here..
This was a war surely lost at start, and no what i'm going to say is no excuse, just some facts.
For most of cogere and righelli members this is the 3rd/4th account this version..ilimitada one's..are mostly the first account this version. I don't care how they did it..pussy or not..even if i don't like their style (the we know how to shoot is just a lame excuse).
Anyway..hope this gets version to a faster end, and people start to shoot even with low odd's like cogere and righelli did.
over and out!
This was a war surely lost at start, and no what i'm going to say is no excuse, just some facts.
For most of cogere and righelli members this is the 3rd/4th account this version..ilimitada one's..are mostly the first account this version. I don't care how they did it..pussy or not..even if i don't like their style (the we know how to shoot is just a lame excuse).
Anyway..hope this gets version to a faster end, and people start to shoot even with low odd's like cogere and righelli did.
over and out!
Wow he is writting now? Why is it?
Wow i got it, he needs to justify why he doesn't help his bloods, or why he just shoots after the first big wars..or why he usually hides when version starts..
Anyway Nazdrovia is doing great, nice strategy!