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General Comments & Major Rumors
21:24:34 - 08-01
Anonymous at 21:14:16 on 08/01:
http://i.imgur.com/5PRScRb.png
Naivno had around 9 hours of no Omerta time where he could potentially sleep in the first 10 days. That's basically almost dying in real life kinda stats. At best case scenario he would be unable to play Omerta anyway due to hallucinating and the like.
So people can say "yeah admins don't have proof!", but that is proof in itself. Naivno is certainly not the only one that apparently only goes 2 hours tops between logins (again, unsustainable for more than a few days) so more bans really should come in my opinion for this alone.
You don't need to catch a murderer actually slitting the victims throat in order to convict him when the evidence presented is beyond reasonable doubt.
http://i.imgur.com/5PRScRb.png
Naivno had around 9 hours of no Omerta time where he could potentially sleep in the first 10 days. That's basically almost dying in real life kinda stats. At best case scenario he would be unable to play Omerta anyway due to hallucinating and the like.
So people can say "yeah admins don't have proof!", but that is proof in itself. Naivno is certainly not the only one that apparently only goes 2 hours tops between logins (again, unsustainable for more than a few days) so more bans really should come in my opinion for this alone.
You don't need to catch a murderer actually slitting the victims throat in order to convict him when the evidence presented is beyond reasonable doubt.
The first REM sleep period usually occurs about 70 to 90 minutes after we fall asleep. A complete sleep cycle takes 90 to 110 minutes on average.[1]
[1]: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/brain_basics/understanding_sleep.htm
[1]: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/brain_basics/understanding_sleep.htm
I've done this myself quite often while ranking and it's manageable for 2 weeks or so. Might be harder if you're someone who has trouble falling asleep again after completely waking up. With that in mind, if you look at the online graph again, you'll see that there was definitely more than 9 hours of sleeping potential.
07-01 Reset?
20:18:40 - 08-01
Keeley at 20:17:14 on 08/01:
NO RESET.......Let the top families play with themselves \o/
NO RESET.......Let the top families play with themselves \o/
07-01 Reset?
19:16:21 - 08-01
Anonymous at 19:10:37 on 08/01:
I see your point but it would be good to see some suicide attempts from revived accounts at the and of the versions :) on you, or some other gf's :) it would have change fam points too :) and this one having 5 kills and that atropine having 11-12 kills, it seems this 2 guys just killed a size of a small fam.It would change the version's fate at the end if all revived players just go on suicides i think :)
MurderInc at 18:57:29 on 08/01:
This particular one had 5 kills I think. Revive policy is generally a pretty hard thing to get right. Realistically, there's no point in reviving those accounts now, as we've seen with the previous revives. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people would be quite happy about a big revive wave, as that would give them something to shoot while waiting for the reset, but that's a pointless exercise and won't change anything.
The only time it would make sense to revive someone would be a) while the version is still open and b) as early as possible after the kill, i.e. detect cheaters sooner. When those criteria are met, I think revives should not be time-limited (which is a policy that is not applied consistently anyway), but rather count for the entire version or, if it can be determined when the cheating begin, starting from that point.
In this particular case the claim is that the two akilled accounts (a soldier and a CDC) were sharing; well, if that's true (and I won't even bother commenting on that, since no one here would give a fuck about what I say anyway), then they should've been sharing all version long and not now that no one is even doing any kind of manual ranking anymore. I find it hard to believe that whatever evidence they claim to have dug up only appeared just now. Oddly, it seems that sharing is something that they quite often only detect very late in the version (not always to our detriment - Hi Daniel and Ari ;().
Anonymous at 18:43:57 on 08/01:
I suppoes this guy have so much kills, so what will happen to the guys who have died by the hand of this one? I think admins should revive them all without expecting some e-mails or tickets
Anonymous at 18:36:23 on 08/01:
The fact that cheaters aren't caught doesn't mean they don't cheat.
Johnx at 18:26:08 on 08/01:
#4 Anarchy 8 164.3 8.33 Show Akills
#5 Karadeniz 4 117.9 10 Show Akills
#6 Siberia 3 112.1 6.67 Show Akills
Hello. And the fact that your fam ripped how long ago? means you prolly avoided some akills as well ;(
SowLow at 18:22:32 on 08/01:
08-01 16:04:50 (A) Naivno Capodecina Siberia
this family is full of cheater
oh well
08-01 16:04:50 (A) Naivno Capodecina Siberia
this family is full of cheater
oh well
#5 Karadeniz 4 117.9 10 Show Akills
#6 Siberia 3 112.1 6.67 Show Akills
Hello. And the fact that your fam ripped how long ago? means you prolly avoided some akills as well ;(
The fact that cheaters aren't caught doesn't mean they don't cheat.
The only time it would make sense to revive someone would be a) while the version is still open and b) as early as possible after the kill, i.e. detect cheaters sooner. When those criteria are met, I think revives should not be time-limited (which is a policy that is not applied consistently anyway), but rather count for the entire version or, if it can be determined when the cheating begin, starting from that point.
In this particular case the claim is that the two akilled accounts (a soldier and a CDC) were sharing; well, if that's true (and I won't even bother commenting on that, since no one here would give a fuck about what I say anyway), then they should've been sharing all version long and not now that no one is even doing any kind of manual ranking anymore. I find it hard to believe that whatever evidence they claim to have dug up only appeared just now. Oddly, it seems that sharing is something that they quite often only detect very late in the version (not always to our detriment - Hi Daniel and Ari ;().
07-01 Reset?
18:57:29 - 08-01
Anonymous at 18:43:57 on 08/01:
I suppoes this guy have so much kills, so what will happen to the guys who have died by the hand of this one? I think admins should revive them all without expecting some e-mails or tickets
Anonymous at 18:36:23 on 08/01:
The fact that cheaters aren't caught doesn't mean they don't cheat.
Johnx at 18:26:08 on 08/01:
#4 Anarchy 8 164.3 8.33 Show Akills
#5 Karadeniz 4 117.9 10 Show Akills
#6 Siberia 3 112.1 6.67 Show Akills
Hello. And the fact that your fam ripped how long ago? means you prolly avoided some akills as well ;(
SowLow at 18:22:32 on 08/01:
08-01 16:04:50 (A) Naivno Capodecina Siberia
this family is full of cheater
oh well
08-01 16:04:50 (A) Naivno Capodecina Siberia
this family is full of cheater
oh well
#5 Karadeniz 4 117.9 10 Show Akills
#6 Siberia 3 112.1 6.67 Show Akills
Hello. And the fact that your fam ripped how long ago? means you prolly avoided some akills as well ;(
The fact that cheaters aren't caught doesn't mean they don't cheat.
The only time it would make sense to revive someone would be a) while the version is still open and b) as early as possible after the kill, i.e. detect cheaters sooner. When those criteria are met, I think revives should not be time-limited (which is a policy that is not applied consistently anyway), but rather count for the entire version or, if it can be determined when the cheating begin, starting from that point.
In this particular case the claim is that the two akilled accounts (a soldier and a CDC) were sharing; well, if that's true (and I won't even bother commenting on that, since no one here would give a fuck about what I say anyway), then they should've been sharing all version long and not now that no one is even doing any kind of manual ranking anymore. I find it hard to believe that whatever evidence they claim to have dug up only appeared just now. Oddly, it seems that sharing is something that they quite often only detect very late in the version (not always to our detriment - Hi Daniel and Ari ;().
07-01 Reset?
18:42:13 - 08-01
Anonymous at 18:36:23 on 08/01:
The fact that cheaters aren't caught doesn't mean they don't cheat.
Johnx at 18:26:08 on 08/01:
#4 Anarchy 8 164.3 8.33 Show Akills
#5 Karadeniz 4 117.9 10 Show Akills
#6 Siberia 3 112.1 6.67 Show Akills
Hello. And the fact that your fam ripped how long ago? means you prolly avoided some akills as well ;(
SowLow at 18:22:32 on 08/01:
08-01 16:04:50 (A) Naivno Capodecina Siberia
this family is full of cheater
oh well
08-01 16:04:50 (A) Naivno Capodecina Siberia
this family is full of cheater
oh well
#5 Karadeniz 4 117.9 10 Show Akills
#6 Siberia 3 112.1 6.67 Show Akills
Hello. And the fact that your fam ripped how long ago? means you prolly avoided some akills as well ;(
The fact that cheaters aren't caught doesn't mean they don't cheat.
General Comments & Major Rumors
17:30:42 - 08-01
Anonymous at 17:29:29 on 08/01:
try to pay better please and keep them quiet. we dont want to deal with your mess
MurderInc at 17:11:35 on 08/01:
Indeed, we pay well.
Anonymous at 17:11:03 on 08/01:
it looks like its always wrong when it comes to siberia...
MurderInc at 16:58:48 on 08/01:
Yeah it's not like they ever got sharing akills wrong before.
Anonymous at 16:24:37 on 08/01:
1 more of sib highranks got akilled,
admins should akill the rest also, and reroll this stupid version.
they fucked this game. :w
1 more of sib highranks got akilled,
admins should akill the rest also, and reroll this stupid version.
they fucked this game. :w
it looks like its always wrong when it comes to siberia...
try to pay better please and keep them quiet. we dont want to deal with your mess
General Comments & Major Rumors
17:11:35 - 08-01
Anonymous at 17:11:03 on 08/01:
it looks like its always wrong when it comes to siberia...
MurderInc at 16:58:48 on 08/01:
Yeah it's not like they ever got sharing akills wrong before.
Anonymous at 16:24:37 on 08/01:
1 more of sib highranks got akilled,
admins should akill the rest also, and reroll this stupid version.
they fucked this game. :w
1 more of sib highranks got akilled,
admins should akill the rest also, and reroll this stupid version.
they fucked this game. :w
it looks like its always wrong when it comes to siberia...
General Comments & Major Rumors
16:58:48 - 08-01
Anonymous at 16:24:37 on 08/01:
1 more of sib highranks got akilled,
admins should akill the rest also, and reroll this stupid version.
they fucked this game. :w
1 more of sib highranks got akilled,
admins should akill the rest also, and reroll this stupid version.
they fucked this game. :w
16-12 OmertaBeyond 2.2.11-UPDT-
13:14:20 - 08-01
16-12 OmertaBeyond 2.2.11-UPDT-
11:49:28 - 08-01
seiffus at 11:46:24 on 08/01:
Maybe contact leakcim, he translated some things and got it working for himself for .PT
MurderInc at 11:42:48 on 08/01:
Support for v5 is very spotty at the moment. We don't have any devs playing v5 currently, so no ETA on when we might have a working version.
I shall go reset .pt (and .nl) in a few minutes; that should fix the testament issues once you clear all OB data on the preferences page.
Support for v5 is very spotty at the moment. We don't have any devs playing v5 currently, so no ETA on when we might have a working version.
I shall go reset .pt (and .nl) in a few minutes; that should fix the testament issues once you clear all OB data on the preferences page.
WIP support for more languages, if anyone wants to pick this up: https://github.com/OmertaBeyond/OBv2/tree/i18n
16-12 OmertaBeyond 2.2.11-UPDT-
11:42:48 - 08-01
Support for v5 is very spotty at the moment. We don't have any devs playing v5 currently, so no ETA on when we might have a working version.
I shall go reset .pt (and .nl) in a few minutes; that should fix the testament issues once you clear all OB data on the preferences page.
I shall go reset .pt (and .nl) in a few minutes; that should fix the testament issues once you clear all OB data on the preferences page.
07-01 Reset?
18:14:44 - 07-01
May I offer you some of my KCode-approved extreme expert sheats?
General Comments & Major Rumors
23:11:52 - 06-01
sbanks at 21:46:21 on 06/01:
i always knew this Kcode guy was dirty!
mmm at 17:24:10 on 06/01:
do share MurderInc, please
anonymous at 17:10:29 on 06/01:
its pretty wellknown that kcode & murderinc are friends from same group
siberia have a new script and kcode protects them.
its pretty wellknown that kcode & murderinc are friends from same group
siberia have a new script and kcode protects them.
do share MurderInc, please
i always knew this Kcode guy was dirty!
General Comments & Major Rumors
08:14:14 - 06-01
seiffus at 08:12:24 on 06/01:
Still can`t login to barafranca.pt
And didn`t really get any decent response to some issues..
MurderInc at 08:07:17 on 06/01:
What we have here is a demonstration that evolution is a rather slow process.
What we have here is a demonstration that evolution is a rather slow process.
Still can`t login to barafranca.pt
And didn`t really get any decent response to some issues..
Maybe fix your crappy connection or something.
General Comments & Major Rumors
08:07:17 - 06-01
What we have here is a demonstration that evolution is a rather slow process.
General Comments & Major Rumors
07:33:04 - 06-01
Lucky at 07:29:25 on 06/01:
i looked and he was only some soldier? im really confused what he is complaining about... murder maybe u can clue me in :*
MurderInc at 07:27:44 on 06/01:
Where's your Service Level Agreement with Omerta Ltd.?
(I know, sorry. Can't help it.)
seiffus at 07:25:52 on 06/01:
And again, omerta.pt doesn`t load....
Its a PAYSERVICE !!!!
And again, omerta.pt doesn`t load....
Its a PAYSERVICE !!!!
(I know, sorry. Can't help it.)
i looked and he was only some soldier? im really confused what he is complaining about... murder maybe u can clue me in :*
General Comments & Major Rumors
07:27:44 - 06-01
seiffus at 07:25:52 on 06/01:
And again, omerta.pt doesn`t load....
Its a PAYSERVICE !!!!
And again, omerta.pt doesn`t load....
Its a PAYSERVICE !!!!
(I know, sorry. Can't help it.)
General Comments & Major Rumors
05:11:32 - 06-01
seiffus at 05:09:38 on 06/01:
Again, don`t try me.
And this time I won`t leave it to words.
I will claim my money back and many players with me I hope.
I can prove what i payed, m8 !
MurderInc at 05:04:19 on 06/01:
This has nothing to do with any legal system. It's simply part of the contract with PayPal. If Omerta can show proof they rendered the services promised to you, your claim wont go through. And no, not making it impossible to cheat doesn't count (or please point to the TOS section that says so). Luckily for you, they probably wont bother since you likely haven't bought enough DCs for the effort to be worthwhile.
seiffus at 04:57:17 on 06/01:
It`s very simple these days.
I`ll ask my money back from paypall as Omerta LTD didn`t provide what they promised.
Paypall will handle the legal issues.
I have ground to complain as this game lives on cheats.
MurderInc at 04:15:03 on 06/01:
I'd wager you have never dealt with any legal system in your life. I would certainly hope so.
seiffus at 04:12:25 on 06/01:
Wrong answer !
Get the cheaters to pay for the harm they do to the game !
That would be an answer !
Wrong answer !
Get the cheaters to pay for the harm they do to the game !
That would be an answer !
I`ll ask my money back from paypall as Omerta LTD didn`t provide what they promised.
Paypall will handle the legal issues.
I have ground to complain as this game lives on cheats.
And this time I won`t leave it to words.
I will claim my money back and many players with me I hope.
I can prove what i payed, m8 !
Ya know, when I was talking about Naivno and asking why he was banned (like officially, what the reason was), I did say sleep cycles occur every hour and a half to two hours. Which is kinda my point as to why there is plenty of evidence here. You can't only have 1 sleep cycle every two DAYS.
I understand you're never going to turn around and say "yes, Naivno cheated" since he was Siberia's Sotto, but he, along with plenty other players, have enough evidence on them for admins to akill based on their on pattern alone even when ontime isn't ridiculously high.
A lot of the slightly red-shaded boxes could mean: Was logged in 1 minute right after the hour started, and then logged in at :59 of the next hour (that's how I do my b/n runs for example). This would basically be equal to 2 hours of sleep on every instance. Definitely more than 9 hours.
BUT you are using scripts, for basically everything, and most likely mister Naivno did the same, like he always did when he is/was playing. So well, the ingame ontime-logger on bots will show a lot of ontime or show a very rare pattern, which looks impossible to humans. Ofcourse we all know that in fact you are able to sleep longer times, which makes it possible to keep this pattern continueing for a longer period of time.
It's not about if it is possible for humans, we all know that it's basically doable for a specific amount of days to stay awake and sleep as less as possible. After that it's getting more difficult. Especially when being busy as shit with busting, typing 24/7 codes without sleep or even with just 1-2 hours sleep, you'll start to get fucked up. Those short hours of sleep turn out to get deeper sleep and more difficult to wake up. And then in the meanwhile you are busy as shit with nonstop busting (based on legit plays that is). This busting goes in such a speed, you don't keep up that tempo with typing and staring the screen for 24 hours nonstop and pauses of 2 hours sleep. But again, if you don't have to type codes and stuff by yourself, it's ofcourse way easier, we all know it. The only thing is that we can't prove it, while everyone knows it. For instance, buying 5 objects at once, even with 5 tabs opened up you're never fast enough to buy in 1-2 seconds. So well, what can it be then, quite sketchy right?
Also a bit more difficult to report it while we know you're being buddies with the main boy in the game KCode. Maybe that's why the Akills arrive at the end of the version, when everything is done, everything has been played and shit can't be turned. Akill some high rollers which don't cause any problems, you're still winning. Anyway, luckly this stuff shows everyone that you can't win by playing fair. So well, as it's said: just some compensation for the shorty in the shorts. Would be funny to see you struggle without cheats!
I've stated before that a script for this game that is automated in a way that would make busting feasible (i.e. OCR) is not profitable anymore in this day and age. No one would be crazy enough to either write an OCR for a private script or hire someone to do it, it's quite hard and requires a lot of domain knowledge in various areas of computer science. Add to that the fact that apparently other families, some of them on the other side, didn't have any problems busting that fast and with similar or more ontime as well, and your entire private script theory falls apart.
I wont comment on your claim that I'm buddies with the "main boy" in this game other than saying that I was a) (rightfully) akilled a few years ago when I already knew him, b) Siberia was akilled multiple times since then and c) you would be crazy if you think someone who's invested a good part of his life in this game would risk the future on this game to help some (more or less) random guy he knows online for no apparent gain. It's always fun to see morons like you make those claims, whether it's regarding Bramble or, now that she's gone, KCode. When we're actually losing a version, or get akilled, or get suicided, you people are somehow very quiet. But whenever we end up winning, you come out of your holes like rats and spread your bullshit lies and accuse us of whatever comes to your dimwitted brains. OKAY TURNS OUT I DID COMMENT AFTER ALL. Brb killing puppies.