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24-12 Christmas Spirit

21:11:16 - 24-12

Anonymous at 21:10:25 on 24/12:

Montreal at 21:08:17 on 24/12:

mmm at 21:06:00 on 24/12:
keep talks on subject please, no more flaming on people in particular or my balls. Thank you.

Can't flame non-existant things can we?
That's like burning down an imaginary forest, or in your case, two very small magical acorns.

And now you are dreaming of the tree that might grow from those acorns?
I am no tjudgemental, so somewhere over the rainbow you will find the large tree your a looking for man.

I'd go in dry with Mmm, no lie.
That man turns any of my boxer briefs into a larger size.

24-12 Christmas Spirit

21:08:17 - 24-12

mmm at 21:06:00 on 24/12:
keep talks on subject please, no more flaming on people in particular or my balls. Thank you.

Can't flame non-existant things can we?
That's like burning down an imaginary forest, or in your case, two very small magical acorns.

24-12 Christmas Spirit

20:27:17 - 24-12

If you anti-social fucks have time to complain about shit on OBN during Christmas Eve you have time to war too, no?

:D

General Comments & Major Rumors

19:11:54 - 24-12

You really think I used accurate numbers, my point is that christmas is bigger than for instance day of sacrifice, I am well aware there are other religions and other people that don't celebrate christmas. Also well aware that the point is that you take things into CONSIDERATION when they actually exist, we are discussing the importance of specific holidays. I don't think we have to add a non-shooting holiday for the chinese people on omerta do we? so we don't have to add that into this example either <3

General Comments & Major Rumors

19:06:30 - 24-12

Anonymous at 19:01:39 on 24/12:

Montreal at 18:55:06 on 24/12:

Anonymous at 18:52:57 on 24/12:

Anonymous at 18:49:29 on 24/12:

Montreal at 18:42:37 on 24/12:

Anonymous at 18:35:30 on 24/12:

Montreal at 18:32:32 on 24/12:

Merton at 18:30:30 on 24/12:
Never argue about religion or politics on the interweb because you end up arguing with cunts.

and on that note I bid you all a merry christmas (or whatever it is some of you all call it)

eat shit man.

lol just kidding, enjoy your holidays!

ok lets take for every religion a "LOCKED DAY" :)

Xmas for Christ...
For the Sacrifices day in Islam countrys...
Chanukkah for Jews... and and ok :) lets vote for it !!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays
Please explain to me the actual link between what you´re saying and a multi national celebration that is celebrated worldwide and in bigger numbers.

Pro tip: you can't.

You're comparing a common holiday with a specific day/specific religion, it makes zero sense.
I'm not saying Eid al-Adha is something small, i'm saying it's small compared to Christmas and you have to look at the bigger picture here. Just because thanksgiving is a holiday doesn't mean it's essential to force this day on all non canadian/american countries aswell, NOR should it be vice versa; and should they forget about Thanksgiving just because other countries don't participate in it.

Lay off the hashish for a moment and use your head, it's not about the importance of a holiday or a religion- it's about what the majority of a group needs/wants and what makes actual sense. If you want to play the compare game come up with some proper arguments instead of battling it out with so called witty remarks that amount to nothing when broken down.

did you see in any ISLAM country XMAS???? and you will say SACRIFICE day is not a day for LOCKED DAY :) call it to the moslims im curious what you get as an answer! :)

to call XMAS as a MULTIHOLIDAY is most stupid thing that i ever hear in OB omg :D
they are not XMAS as a holiday MULTIHOLIDAY IS LIKE NEW YEAR!!! not xmas or anything with religion background omg stupidness

Let me guess, your age in numbers surpasses your iq.

also you say... i have to believe in XMAS where JESUS was born as an jew moslem even as a not believer ok :) thank you for that BIG INFORMATION i learn from you! XMAS FOR AFRIKA and let slave them again :)

lol, your lack of insight is laughable but let me break it down for you elementary style dufus.

YOU ARE MUSLIM
SOME ARE CHRISTIAN
SOME ARE SOMETHING ELSE

WORLD IS 100 PEOPLE (SCALED DOWN)
MUSLIM IS 30
CHRISTIAN IS 50
OTHER IS 20

TOTAL IS 100

MUSLIMS DONT CELEBRATE XMAS = 0
CHRISTIAN CELEBRATE XMAS = +50
SOME OF OTHER ALSO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS = +10
SOME ARE NOT RELIGIOUS BUT DO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS = +5
TOTAL IS 65

65 = MORE THAN 50 = MORE THAN HALF
MORE LOGICAL TO STOP KILLING DURING CHRISTMAS THAN DURING RAMADAN

HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO IS WHAT RELIGION WHO IS NOT

get it you dim witted buffoon?
No one said anything about who believes in what, I don't personally care who has what religion either. It's just logical but it seems that word doesn't quite fit in your dictionary.

Have a good day, if you still do not grasp it at least i've tried.
it's like talking to a god damn toddler.

General Comments & Major Rumors

18:55:06 - 24-12

Anonymous at 18:52:57 on 24/12:

Anonymous at 18:49:29 on 24/12:

Montreal at 18:42:37 on 24/12:

Anonymous at 18:35:30 on 24/12:

Montreal at 18:32:32 on 24/12:

Merton at 18:30:30 on 24/12:
Never argue about religion or politics on the interweb because you end up arguing with cunts.

and on that note I bid you all a merry christmas (or whatever it is some of you all call it)

eat shit man.

lol just kidding, enjoy your holidays!

ok lets take for every religion a "LOCKED DAY" :)

Xmas for Christ...
For the Sacrifices day in Islam countrys...
Chanukkah for Jews... and and ok :) lets vote for it !!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays
Please explain to me the actual link between what you´re saying and a multi national celebration that is celebrated worldwide and in bigger numbers.

Pro tip: you can't.

You're comparing a common holiday with a specific day/specific religion, it makes zero sense.
I'm not saying Eid al-Adha is something small, i'm saying it's small compared to Christmas and you have to look at the bigger picture here. Just because thanksgiving is a holiday doesn't mean it's essential to force this day on all non canadian/american countries aswell, NOR should it be vice versa; and should they forget about Thanksgiving just because other countries don't participate in it.

Lay off the hashish for a moment and use your head, it's not about the importance of a holiday or a religion- it's about what the majority of a group needs/wants and what makes actual sense. If you want to play the compare game come up with some proper arguments instead of battling it out with so called witty remarks that amount to nothing when broken down.

did you see in any ISLAM country XMAS???? and you will say SACRIFICE day is not a day for LOCKED DAY :) call it to the moslims im curious what you get as an answer! :)

to call XMAS as a MULTIHOLIDAY is most stupid thing that i ever hear in OB omg :D
they are not XMAS as a holiday MULTIHOLIDAY IS LIKE NEW YEAR!!! not xmas or anything with religion background omg stupidness

Let me guess, your age in numbers surpasses your iq.

General Comments & Major Rumors

18:42:37 - 24-12

Anonymous at 18:35:30 on 24/12:

Montreal at 18:32:32 on 24/12:

Merton at 18:30:30 on 24/12:
Never argue about religion or politics on the interweb because you end up arguing with cunts.

and on that note I bid you all a merry christmas (or whatever it is some of you all call it)

eat shit man.

lol just kidding, enjoy your holidays!

ok lets take for every religion a "LOCKED DAY" :)

Xmas for Christ...
For the Sacrifices day in Islam countrys...
Chanukkah for Jews... and and ok :) lets vote for it !!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multinational_festivals_and_holidays
Please explain to me the actual link between what you´re saying and a multi national celebration that is celebrated worldwide and in bigger numbers.

Pro tip: you can't.

You're comparing a common holiday with a specific day/specific religion, it makes zero sense.
I'm not saying Eid al-Adha is something small, i'm saying it's small compared to Christmas and you have to look at the bigger picture here. Just because thanksgiving is a holiday doesn't mean it's essential to force this day on all non canadian/american countries aswell, NOR should it be vice versa; and should they forget about Thanksgiving just because other countries don't participate in it.

Lay off the hashish for a moment and use your head, it's not about the importance of a holiday or a religion- it's about what the majority of a group needs/wants and what makes actual sense. If you want to play the compare game come up with some proper arguments instead of battling it out with so called witty remarks that amount to nothing when broken down.

General Comments & Major Rumors

18:32:32 - 24-12

Merton at 18:30:30 on 24/12:
Never argue about religion or politics on the interweb because you end up arguing with cunts.

and on that note I bid you all a merry christmas (or whatever it is some of you all call it)

eat shit man.

lol just kidding, enjoy your holidays!

General Comments & Major Rumors

18:10:59 - 24-12

General Comments & Major Rumors

23:21:52 - 22-12

ites at 23:12:00 on 22/12:

Redspeert at 22:53:41 on 22/12:

Anonymous at 16:55:12 on 22/12:

Merton at 23:21:41 on 21/12:

Redspeert at 22:30:56 on 21/12:

Anonymous at 19:03:43 on 21/12:
about Siberia. that name is coming from a Turkish tribe who lives in that region. so why u do using a Turkish name if u hate em so much? take some history lessons or keep going hate

Turkic tribe*. There are no turks in siberia. Learn your history 'friend'. tatars belong to the turkic group just as norwegians belong to the germanic group but we aren't germans.

I was going to post that :) or summit similar then i thought fuck it us Celts rule anyways \o/

Tatars are a Turkic tribe also. why u put urself in this case Redspeert? are u an anti-turk too?

I have every single one of you, if you are from switerzland, zimbabwe, laos or turkey. So yeah I hate you as well.

* back on point. Why shoul you as a turk take credit for the tatars? That would be like me, as a norwegian, taking credit for something germans, austrians or the dutch did.

the dutch have never done anything worth taking credit for dude.

except for, oh yes this one minor thing.. being the biggest exporter of your silly chocolate-factory country and being most essential to your trade market goods.

where did you find this briliant insight champ, have you been too busy binge-watching Spongebob Squarepants and somehow fried the very limited contents of your brain?

No matter though, i'll always be here to wake you up from your little milk-induced mid afternoon nap and tell you that you're a silly boy but we still love you <3

General Comments & Major Rumors

18:10:03 - 22-12

Oh looky-looky, grown up men insulting and name calling others overs a text-based mafia game.

Really? If you participate in this stupid hobby of others you should question your integrity.
Bunch of diaper poopers, where is the love <3

01-12 December war

01:01:58 - 03-12

Despot at 22:39:09 on 02/12:

Anonymous at 22:38:31 on 02/12:

darklazytologin at 20:12:09 on 02/12:

Asabi\hardtologin at 17:22:36 on 02/12:

darklazytologin at 16:41:40 on 02/12:

Fenrir at 16:36:27 on 02/12:

Merton at 16:28:56 on 02/12:

fenrir is darks inbred brother

So does that in fact make fenrir dark's father also?

actually dark is my sister

Fuck u fenrir i ve big ballz...

Shhht be quiet. You both are my sons !

Amk asabi we created u!!! U cant be our father !!!!

come again whoever you are ,come to me !

And there you have it.
Stupidity in its purest form.

General Comments & Major Rumors

23:24:46 - 27-11

mmm at 18:46:51 on 27/11:

Anonymous at 14:39:50 on 27/11:
does anyone know where are all the good fam/profile picture maker nowdays.. I would like to pay 2 DCs for a simple logo, but i couldn't find anyone..

doesn't #fineart exist anymore?

Back since 2 weeks, hi.

Could give you a link to our site aswell but that wouldn't be very subtle on here would it? you can find me in said channel.

General Comments & Major Rumors

23:03:09 - 12-01

Anonymous at 22:58:14 on 12/01:

Anonymous at 22:14:32 on 12/01:

Anonymous at 22:08:20 on 12/01:

Anonymous at 22:04:22 on 12/01:
So.. where's the rollback? It's shocking how passive omerta community have become.

Devs are playing us to get money instead of giving us a game to play :D

Why does it require a rollback?

Because during the 4 hours some ppl still had access to the game and you know... not all of us had lackeys on because there are actually some people who play this instead of lackeying

But you were perfect proving my point. That small mentality: "woow i wasnt affected, yeey lets roll!"

so your mentality is: if someone kils you pls reset the version.because if i cant play nodoby cant too

That's rather ignorant; no his/her mentality is; in a RANKING game everyone should have equal chances to work on their accounts. And when due to circumstances some players can play on and some can not; this simply gives some players an advantage over others.. even if it's just for a few hours.

Don't be ridiculous, you really want to point the finger at this person and act as if he/she is just saying this out of some ego-centric point of view? Because even if that is the case; that doesn't take away that this is unfair. I suggest you stop trying to pick a fight with people by only bringing up the selfish content of their comment. Unless a fight is what you want; then by all means go on - to each his own.

11-01 Bad Blood - Lucchese's pledge

22:44:40 - 12-01

Mcgee at 22:35:30 on 12/01:
Oh yea Gsbaba, nice post I agree. As much as lucchese is a trademark name, a fool would trust this family. They had their share of duping proxy abuse and scripting like most other fams, now they want to come here acting self righteous to save a game they molested on their own. (Should be a compliment, it's a crime game). Well that was fun, I hope I make more fantasy text faggots get jumpy with my posts (k) :p

You rascal!

11-01 Bad Blood - Lucchese's pledge

18:14:55 - 12-01

Once again for everyone who thinks the people not following through with the idea of this will mean it doesn't work - you're wrong.
It's not a bad thing that secret pacts/agreements and of course whatever else is discussed between families exist and happen - this idea is about getting families to agree to a GUIDELINE, a honorary code, a morality of what is "acceptable" - if then a family goes way out of line or decides to break that code to win a version they CAN, it's FUN, it's ALLOWED - but it is game breaking if EVERYONE does it.

So what does this article mean then?
Get everyone to realise that if every family does it, the game will die out.
Set the standard of blood back to something everyone thinks is not game-breaking, and go from there. Any family still mass blooding or making secret pacts etcetera can be dealt with once everyone actually agrees to what is acceptable and what is not.

MORALITY people, it's a concept not a rule. This is meant to remind you all of how it can be done instead of just using the "They do it, let's do it aswell" theory.

11-01 Bad Blood - Lucchese's pledge

06:15:08 - 12-01

MurderInc at 03:15:21 on 12/01:
I believe it should be up to every player to decide whether a family's bloodlist is okay or too big.
I don't think it's possible to put the complex relationships families, alliances, tops and players have with each other in a simple scoring system like the one you proposed. Sure, those numbers would be an indication, but it's just not that simple.
Some fams are "old friends" and simply don't shoot each other. Some fams refuse to shoot bloods of their bloods. Secret bloodships, non-shoots and other weird deals get made. All of that doesn't fit into the score you proposed and the community won't stop making those kind of deals just because of some pledge. They'd just find a way to play the system.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of those habits, and I like the idea of more fams (again) putting bloods/alliances/as1's on their fampage. But it should be left to the fams to deal with this. Don't like mass-blooding? Well then don't blood fams who already have a big blood list (By the way, I love to see people cry about Aeterna having too many bloods who offered them bloodship as well after all their other bloods already have been added and then got declined. Yeah yeah, I'm shutting up already, don't wanna get that flame party started again).

I think we should focus less on some arbitrary score and let the community decide for themself on those matters. It's the same reason why I dislike the Hall of fame, it doesn't grasp the complexity of each version and therefore it should be left to the community to decide who won a version. (I don't care too much about the individual achievements like top killer/ranker/buster, so don't worry, you can still get a star :P)

Keeping track of bloods and their size on this page on the other hand sounds like a good idea to me. Everyone can draw their own conclusions from those stats. I would prefer for this system to simply use the famworth and/or highrank numbers (with the usual formular used on live famstats), i.e.:

Let's say all fams together have a famworth of 15,000.

Family A:
1,000 points
blooded to:
- Family B: 800 points
- Family C: 1,200 points
Total: 3,000 points (20% of total famworth in the game)

It's of course still a very simple representation of the relations in this game, but it would definitely show the biggest bloodwebs at a glance. Also, later in the version, when the number of fams is smaller, you can simply go back and see how big that bloodweb was at the beginning (instead of just saying someone's mass-blooding because all the other fams got cleaned and no one else is left).

Just to reply to what you said about the agreements made off the record:
I agree, it is impossible to keep an eye on the things families discuss on mIRC and relationships aside the whole bloods part.

The point however is; not to put a RULE to the number the players are voting on. But instead; giving the number a value one could compare to morality.
Then; if families have read this article, agreed to the fact that mass-blooding or 50 sister families or big as1's destroy the game - let THEM (the families) keep an eye on it.

So; if any family decides to go behind everyone's back and make some sort of sneaky pact or whatever you call it just to come out as winners easily.. everyone will EVENTUALLY notice.
I mean; it is a mafia game.. everyone is allowed to do these things.. better said: these things make the game interesting.

My point is; just like in any community.. people should have some sense of what is acceptable and what is not.. and if this article puts the finger on exactly that by having players decide on what they think is okay and what is not.. then during any war in Omerta they can easily see which families have been doing the sneaky behind-the-back deals and THEN you can retaliate on those families who play like complete cowards.

This right here, this article, is just a guideline for the sake of lowering massblooding.
It's not a rule which says; stop at let's say 4 bloods, stop discussing on irc, stop being tactical about it.. not at all.
It encourages EVERY family in the game to think of standards, and try to maintain them, together. And anyone who wants to break that standard, they have EVERY right to do so.. I encourage it!

Once the game finds out that it's not about what you're NOT allowed to do but it's about what the families together think is acceptable and if they would then act .. out of morality/common sense to those who ruin the game.. you'd have a good system again.

So please; stop thinking all those secret plans families make etcetera has any negative impact on the purpose of this system.. the opposite.. it's exactly what the article is about.
Let people do that; but let's all maintain the game by playing it correctly.

I hope you get my point.

This is also an answer to Saros about what he said about the secret bloods/nonshooting agreements/pacts/alliances/deals/

11-01 Bad Blood - Lucchese's pledge

00:05:23 - 12-01

Johnx at 23:48:32 on 11/01:
I like the idea a lot, but what then if a big fam gains a lot attention (without having a giant bloodlist) and they see other fams, who are unrelated to eachother, suddenly start to get closer so they can take down the fam. You can't just expect the big fam to not try and do something for their own survival since it is others who are teaming up against them.

As i said i like, even love this idea, but it would require a really big change in thoughts of tops. They need to start thinking that you don't have to be the bigger side, to win a war, but the better organized, ofc it would also need a KA that supports this (which i do believe this current KA does).

I hope lots of other fams will support this, sadly i won't be around to see if the change happens.
Good luck and nice initiative Lucchese :)

I'd say blood more, everyone gets an even amount to blood so it really comes down to what choices you make, if you for example have a rank 11 and 12 family, be clever in your decision who may be the better blood. Even if a big family gains a lot of attention, if he doesn't blood as much as the rest does it would simply be stupid. The idea is to stop mass blooding, not to stop people from blooding. There should be no more teaming up, as every side should have equal strength in famworth if they follow the average total of bloods. It comes down to skill instead, and planning. No more gangbangs.

11-01 Bad Blood - Lucchese's pledge

23:38:08 - 11-01

sbanks at 23:28:13 on 11/01:
what if families die or grow, and i end up with 3 bloods who are #1, #2 and #3?

People can see when you blooded them, if you blooded them way before their strength increased significantly it doesn't mean bad karma to me.
Also as discussed before, if you kill a family and one of your bloods rise a spot, so will some other families.
The less families there are, the less ranks there are, the higher the AVERAGE blood number (which is voted for here) will be.
Average means, everyone will have a higher blood number, not just one family.. no one will be able to bitch or complain about a general increase in strength of ALL involved families.

11-01 Bad Blood - Lucchese's pledge

23:33:58 - 11-01

Redspeert at 23:30:03 on 11/01:

Anonymous at 23:25:38 on 11/01:

Redspeert at 23:17:22 on 11/01:

Anonymous at 23:12:26 on 11/01:
this is genious, thumbs up for lucchese and I hope the other fams follow suit. If one decides to be a dick the others can still pact together for one war to tell them where it's at :p

Doesn't that kinda ruin the whole concept? If they pact together to take out one fam.

I believe not because after some massive 'pact' has been gotten rid of, all those families that attacked together will separate again. It would be a warning sign: Pact means certain death, so it's better to just stick with a small amount of families.

Right?

But if you make a pact to kill a pact, doesn't that fight the purpose of the whole thing? Making people shamefull of massblooding would be a better step than using the same shit as the pacters do.

You don't have to be a pact to take down anyone who plays a game-destroying tactic (blooding everyone).

How about just agreeing to shoot the families that make these versions so boring and short, not even mentioning bloods. It's called principle I think.