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10:10:19 - 09-01
Battalgazi at 06:46:54 on 09/01:
Josephc at 02:53:14 on 09/01:
bafrali at 02:02:51 on 09/01:
Redspeert at 01:35:38 on 09/01:
bafrali at 01:12:11 on 09/01:
Rix at 23:18:39 on 08/01:
We've adjusted the algorithm used to calculate the points at the hall of shame. It uses the following formula now:

0.5 * (√(2) ^ (rank - 1))

We will also add some code to give more points for top 3 or capo's than normal members.

it is a joke? or prove that how u got that formula

Its called math, maybe you've heard about it?

lol Mr. Illiterate, have u heard that proof of any equation? Newton didnt make up F=m*a from his ass

Before you start calling people names:

1. An algorithm is simply a definition of rules by which some result will be determined. There is no mathematical proof available for any algorithm, as long as it follows the logical rules of mathematics then it is a valid algorithm. Rix (and OBNews) has decided that 0.5 * (√(2) ^ (rank - 1)) will be equal to the points for a family's standing on the Hall of Shame, and therefore it is so.

2. There is no mathematical proof that F=ma, as it is a formula hypothesized after scientific research and cannot be proved using any mathematical theorems.

3. F=ma only applies in a limited range of scenarios anyway, and so therefore could never be "proved" in the mathematical sense because it has proven to be false via observation under certain circumstances.


u missed a point actually , simple or complex if you create a formula for something , u should explain its components and also its logic.

but in Rix' case , i agree with you , he can use any logic without a consistent explanation.
It's actually very simple:

Back in the old days, mr. Fingon used the Fibonacci sequence to give points to soldier+, and his "formula" we still use basicly everywhere because it works so well (you can still find it on live famstats, on war report at the deaths, etc).

However, in this case this couldn't be used. Because we wanted to make every rank count, and not just soldiers and higher (because ES dupes can also be used for shady reasons), and the Fibonacci sequence in that case would give one point to an ES while give 1597 points to a GF, and we found a factor of 1597 to be too high for the difference between lowest and highest rank.

So, we had to think of a new formula. We talked about ideas like dividing all numbers by 10 or grouping lowranks in group of two (so ES and DB would get same points, Pic and Shop as well, etc.), but in that first case the factor of 1597 would still exist and in the second case not all promotions would count anymore, not something we were glad with.

Because I've made up formulas for mathemetical problems and computer programs before (they are really handy in game engine development), I knew using a basic factor between 1.2 and 1.6 works very well in these ocassions (for instance, with basic factor of 1.5 you get 2, 3, 4.5, 6.8, 10 (rounded to one decimal)). Because raising to the power of is used (for instance, 1.5 ^ 3 would give the factor for rank 3), I knew that, because of it's basic nature of the number, √(2) would work very well as a good factor (is around 1.41, so was a perfectly good number within the range I was thinking of), and luckily it does (if you look at the number sequence, you can see the traditional powers of 2 between the decimal numbers like 2, 4, 8, 16, etc.). Using rank - 1 and multiplier 0.5 are just simple ways to shift the formula in such a way that it gives a nice sequence without too high numbers (staying under the three digits per rank).

So now we have a sequence which in its progression looks very much alike Fibonacci's sequence (for instance, GF is over twice as high as Brug, just like it was in the old sequence), which works from ES and up instead of Soldier and up, and which only has a factor of 181 between ES and GF, instead of 1597. The only downside is that we have decimals now, but we can live with that.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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23:18:39 - 08-01
We've adjusted the algorithm used to calculate the points at the hall of shame. It uses the following formula now:

0.5 * (√(2) ^ (rank - 1))

We will also add some code to give more points for top 3 or capo's than normal members.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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21:23:41 - 08-01
scratzin at 21:19:09 on 08/01:
Redspeert at 20:51:24 on 08/01:
#1 Purgatory 4 39 66.67
#2 Hangover 3 38 75
#3 Nazdrovia 3 38 60
#4 Yigidos 3 31 37.5
#5 Atrocita 3 30 42.86
#6 Turkuz 3 29 60
#7 Correptio 2 18 50
#8 Notte 1 12 50
#9 Liberta 1 10 12.5

Do we see any pattern here? :/
racist
You're a racist for thinking he meant something racist.

!1
General Comments & Major Rumors
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13:47:38 - 07-01
Anonymous at 13:25:08 on 07/01:
I wonder who is owner chi avus spot. 3 familys writte it own family page Tremps Liberta Presidential
Liberta = Tremps, so that isn't that weird. Presi claiming it is a bit weird idd.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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13:50:13 - 06-01
Redspeert at 11:56:01 on 06/01:
PannaJunk at 11:50:06 on 06/01:
BoHeM_: senin a.q it oðlu it incompatible encoding
BoHeM_: sürekli turkuz hakkýnda konuþup durma sikerler belaný incompatible encoding
BoHeM_: translate and fuck you:w
PannaJunk: blow me homoboy
BoHeM_: you r nazdro top and maska and yama my ex friend
BoHeM_: but if you ll talk about turkuz
BoHeM_: I ll fuck your ass
PannaJunk: rofl
BoHeM_: son of bitch
PannaJunk: you got fucked in the ass last time i looked
PannaJunk: fuck off now
PannaJunk: and learn english then read my posts again
BoHeM_: Quanq
PannaJunk: then you see it wasnt negative
PannaJunk: noob
PannaJunk: yeah my ingame is Quanq
PannaJunk: gl

Don't critize Turkuz else they say they will kill you :'( Now I cant sleep anymore :'''(


No worries panna, Bohemia can tall the talk, but when he tries to walk the walk he falls over like a drunken sailor on land. He throws treaths around like a girl with a tantrum, but he never does anything - anything at all.
TANTRUM!

"It's the reason I pass out when I hear church bells."
05-01 Turkuz Hijacked!
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12:23:09 - 05-01
Anonymous at 12:03:08 on 05/01:
ishma at 11:39:24 on 05/01:
Anonymous at 11:15:25 on 05/01:
It's not a matter about nacinality of the players, for me they could be all turks or dutch or portuguese. It's about the name they give to the familie, Turkuz, in here, .com version is just lame. On the other side you don't see families like Portugueses or Netherlanders for example.

Portucalia, Lusitania, Hispania, Bulgaria, and so on...
I don't see any of those fams up, guess it says enough of their sucess too.
Bulgaria had a nice version for a small family in 3.2, shot in a few wars.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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12:14:42 - 05-01
Monfy at 08:34:17 on 05/01:
Wtf are u talking about?


Hall of Shame
Most times it is an honour to be on top of the list.
For this list this is definitely not the case.
These are the top 15 families whose members prefer to play the game unfair.

Generated at Thu 5 Jan 08:08:01 OT
Top 15 families with most akills
# Family Cheat Score Akills % of total deaths Average rank List
1 Atrocita 9 2 33.33% Chief List
2 Correptio 6 1 100% Local Chief List
3 Notte 6 1 100% Local Chief List
4 Turkuz 6 2 40% Assassin List
5 Venture 5 1 12.5% Chief List
6 Yigidos 5 2 66.67% Swindler List
7 Purgatory 3 1 100% Soldier List
8 Hangover 2 1 33.33% Swindler List
The cheat score is based on the other parameters in the table. Only akills of swindler+ users count. Note that this data isn't from the entire version.
Ehm, wtf are you talking about?
General Comments & Major Rumors
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19:27:13 - 03-01
elmariachi at 18:12:22 on 03/01:
Anonymous at 16:00:50 on 03/01:
quirites got 1.722 point atm. i think they are full of with dupes. with that high rankers they should have been more than 2.5k worth.

Another retard just counting highranks and claiming it must be dupes cause of fam worth.
Ever noticed the amount of money on the fam bank of Quirites compaired to the other top 3 fams?
now try #help and ask how much money is worth 1 fam point ;x
Also don't forget the actual time of being up.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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23:06:51 - 02-01
meme at 18:19:25 on 02/01:
Quirites
There used to be a time when our visitors actually put in effort when they tried to flame other families...
General Comments & Major Rumors
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14:17:49 - 01-01
Smul at 14:16:20 on 01/01:
Saros`away at 14:11:20 on 01/01:
Anonymous at 13:59:00 on 01/01:
Redspeert at 03:14:12 on 01/01:
Happy new year.

FUCK YOU NOOB!


Yeah, fuck you for wishing a happy new year Redspeert, asshole.

FUCK REDSPEERT! I'm the one who decides whether or not I will have a happy new year not you bitch :@
Yeah fuck you Redspeert, I want a happy version, not a happy year :@
General Comments & Major Rumors
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19:21:38 - 30-12
elmariachi at 17:33:16 on 30/12:
Eldoreado at 16:40:55 on 30/12:
Nazdrovia vs Quirites anyone? Their tops are flaming eachother already.

we only care for veronica at nazdrovia anyways ;x
Poor Soad.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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22:18:31 - 29-12
Anonymous at 22:10:16 on 29/12:
Rix at 22:05:14 on 29/12:
Anonymous at 21:47:13 on 29/12:
Quirites = massive proxie duping army. Well done!
Lmao.

Hahahaha. You're funny.
How many accounts you got there Rix? 2, 5, 10? :\ Oh sorry, you're a straight guy no cheating with ya.
I'm not even in Quirites, I'm currently in Vincitori. And no, I never cheated and never will; duping is just too much organisation I'm too lazy for and scripting is necessary with lackeys.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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22:05:14 - 29-12
Anonymous at 21:47:13 on 29/12:
Quirites = massive proxie duping army. Well done!
Lmao.

Hahahaha. You're funny.
27-12 Omerta Beyond on Facebook
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13:36:15 - 27-12
Inb4 hatred on FB.
25-12 First family up
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16:57:59 - 26-12
Guys please stop it, not another discussion about Turkey or we will close this one down as well.

Get back on topic.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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13:17:37 - 26-12
9 families up with just one lc, and still no suicides?

What has become of this game...
25-12 First family up
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13:03:58 - 26-12
Anonymous at 11:01:24 on 26/12:
Anonymous at 10:52:15 on 26/12:
Lol. plenty of turk fams. cause normal people busy with christmas. i wonder why adnins are giving them so much advantage after they proved their value on the pilory..

Normal people???? Christians, celebrate Christmas. Muslims other religions and some atheists don't. I don't even understand why people make such a problem out of 2 holidays, there's plenty of Islamic holidays where the Turks etc are not playing omerta.
Atheist people also celebrate Christmas, it's nowadays less of a religious holiday than a cultural one which is celebrated all over Europe and North America with all different religions (besides atheists celebrating it I also know both moslims and jewish who do). Of course they don't go to the church or anything, and even the Christmas tree is getting out of fashion, but most people still get together and have one or more family dinners together.

Now back on topic please.
18-12 Object distribution
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16:40:24 - 23-12
Jonsered at 09:29:37 on 23/12:
I do not see any racism.

Redspeert said: "Turks rule the game? Only thing they rule is the pillory. Filthy, dirty cheaters."

Fact1 - turks rule the pilory - is true according to the pilory stats where like 90% are turks. So no racism in this sentence.

Fact2 - Filthy, dirty cheaters - who are they? - the ones that rule the pilory. Some1 got on pilory = cheater. So this statement is also true.

There is a very good term - "cogitophobia" - describing a mental state of a limited person, who cannot participate in a proper discussion because of his poor outlook. He cannot debate so he tries eliminating others from discussion by stigmatizing, sticking labels or using non-discussion arguments like "this is racism !", "you're a homophobe", or even "you discriminate me because your are taking advantages of your higher iq while i do not have that possibility bla bla".

Person like this calls you racist everytime you call something by it's right name: Turk, Jew, Gypsy. Even if you say it in a nice context like "Gypsies have great musical culture" or "Jews are good at making money", a cogitophobe will still stick labels on you and call you nacist, racist and so on.

Cogitophobe is unable to discuss about any racial or national differences, even having the numbers and proofs (like in this case, where there is a clear proof that 90% of the pilory are 1 nation - Turkey). They cannot even discuss differences between man and woman as they will call you sexist and refuse to discuss.

Those people have phobia of logical, argument based discussion. They will discriminate you and your arguments by simply calling the invalid on some base (racism, nacism, sexism, homophobia and so on).

So i suggest better ban cogitophobes, and normal people will simply discuss without seeing racism in every corner.

This.

Case closed, topic locked, godwin removed.

Anonymous at 15:59:14 on 23/12:
i don't like how everyone s bashing and taking sides against turks here, if you guys really don't want us here just make the site not reachable from turkish ips.

its something when users bashing, its something else when your admins are..


We don't judge on origin, just on the content of the comments. So yes, Turks are more than welcome here, as long if you post sensible posts. Furthermore, our general policy is that our admins are usually free to post whatever they want in the comments (unless the content of their post makes clear that it is from the site's point of view, as is this post), and that can also result in us removing posts of our collogues if we think they have posted something inappropriate. Our crew members are volunteers and they mostly are also still playing, so it is inevitable that they are sometimes biased and have their own opinion on the game (or other matters) they wish to comment.

Lastly, our crew is very busy and me personally didn't look at this topic anymore. If you wish to report comments of which you think they are inappropriate you can contact us on irc to get our attention to them and if we agree we will take action, as I did now. You can't expect us to read every post and read it within minutes after it has been placed.
21-12 Family object limits
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18:22:27 - 21-12
Apparently the number has already been upped from 1 to 3.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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14:47:08 - 21-12
The 1 object per family limit has now also been implemented on .nl, so probably just a matter of time before we see it on .com as well.