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12-12 The real winner of 3.51? by Smurf
Author: sbanks
Last updated: 4152d 23h 27m 55s ago by sbanks
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Version: 3.52
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Because of the vote on Beyond News, I have asked some tops of all different kinds about their opinion.
According to the Omerta crew, the family who is #1 in the family list has won the version. No matter what. But a lot of people disagree. Mostly because it is not one family but a massive alliance with one family on top that makes them #1. This is also an opinion shared by most tops.
To be correct towards all readers, this epitome is based on the survey made, without the opinion of the author. Maybe it isn’t 100% objective, but it’s not the opinion of just one person.

Therefore I did a little research on most of the family tops. They have been asked two simple questions (although some tops didn’t want to comment):

- 1. Who has won this version?
- 2. Which family had the most impact this version?


1. The mainly given answer on the first question was Pentagram. All the asked people considered them as winner although not everyone named Pentagram as THE winner. All agreed on the fact that Pentagram was the leading family at the end of the version and therefore most of them called Pentagram winner, ‘although they didn’t deserve it’ quoted by a few.
Other tops called Oblivions+ as winner, but with the note that Oblivions+ was pretty divided and therefore was not a strong pact. There were talks that Anafarta and Oblivions disagreed often about what to do in wars, step in or duck behind a wall. Besides that, Montella liked to be in the picture, while the rest tried to stay in the background avoiding problems.

2. On the second question the tops were very divided. For most of them it was pretty hard to admit that Pentagram was not the family who had most impact. ‘Their strategy of shooting only weakened, empty or almost dead family with zero risk on a counter’ was a quote repeatedly written by the respondents.
And if you look clearly to their wars, we cannot disagree on that so hardly.

Therefore I shall appoint other families for this trophy, based on the opinions of the respondents. Credits for making this version for what it was goes out mostly towards Oblivions+. They have been named almost each time in my talks with the tops. Besides that, almost 25% named Messina as the family with the most impact, cause of their strong return, instead of naming an alliance like Oblivions+, making Messina a good choice for the award.

Other tops also named families instead of alliances. In these conversations Krays and Monte Carlo were noted. Krays for their great first week of war. Monte Carlo was named for their awesome starts with objects and spots which gained quite some power for them. Levi/Desti were of course feared for their time in 3.5, and that’s why they have been slaughtered, although must tops think they had impact on the game even when they were not up.

Due to these facts, appointing a family with most impact is quite hard. Oblivions+ or Messina make good candidates to claim this position. I say, pick your own. A family that hasn’t been noted is Nazdrovia+.

This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. Although each family does it this way nowadays, maybe we should appoint the next versions winner as the family who doesn’t play the game that way.
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Thanks to the following tops:

Reflexive (Pentagram), Wntd (Oblivions), Mrky (Sindikat), Janey (Homeless), `Siluet (Samyo), Ruben (Cristeria), Ngin (Faffie), Lenini(Venutti), Pado (Trafficante), Sider`zZz (Gravano), Marius(Leviticus), Fatsali (Ataraxia), CyBaH (Tempestuoso) & Drimacus (Messina)
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Anonymous (13:30:22 - 13-12)
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FlowzZ at 13:25:53 on 13/12:
Johnx at 13:19:52 on 13/12:
Giddiness at 13:16:18 on 13/12:
Johnx at 13:03:14 on 13/12:
Anonymous at 12:56:52 on 13/12:
lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Easy now bud, I dont know about all the things you are saying, but let me point one thing out, your so-called ''samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance'' never existed. They were bloods, loyal bloods even, but never an alliance. And well one lie simply ruins your claims...
Does it? I think he has a point.. even if samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista were not alliance the others were right?
indeed if the others were he has a point, that is why i started out with saying i didn't know about the others. And i simply stated at last that lies tends to ruin your arguement, I did write it in a stupid way though

The statement about Gravano was invalid too so i dont know if we really should go on all his points mentioned.

Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back

how i remember it
FlowzZ Albania (13:25:53 - 13-12)
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Johnx at 13:19:52 on 13/12:
Giddiness at 13:16:18 on 13/12:
Johnx at 13:03:14 on 13/12:
Anonymous at 12:56:52 on 13/12:
lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Easy now bud, I dont know about all the things you are saying, but let me point one thing out, your so-called ''samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance'' never existed. They were bloods, loyal bloods even, but never an alliance. And well one lie simply ruins your claims...
Does it? I think he has a point.. even if samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista were not alliance the others were right?
indeed if the others were he has a point, that is why i started out with saying i didn't know about the others. And i simply stated at last that lies tends to ruin your arguement, I did write it in a stupid way though

The statement about Gravano was invalid too so i dont know if we really should go on all his points mentioned.
Johnx Denmark (13:19:52 - 13-12)
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Giddiness at 13:16:18 on 13/12:
Johnx at 13:03:14 on 13/12:
Anonymous at 12:56:52 on 13/12:
lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Easy now bud, I dont know about all the things you are saying, but let me point one thing out, your so-called ''samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance'' never existed. They were bloods, loyal bloods even, but never an alliance. And well one lie simply ruins your claims...
Does it? I think he has a point.. even if samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista were not alliance the others were right?
indeed if the others were he has a point, that is why i started out with saying i didn't know about the others. And i simply stated at last that lies tends to ruin your arguement, I did write it in a stupid way though
Giddiness Bulgaria (13:16:18 - 13-12)
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Johnx at 13:03:14 on 13/12:
Anonymous at 12:56:52 on 13/12:
lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Easy now bud, I dont know about all the things you are saying, but let me point one thing out, your so-called ''samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance'' never existed. They were bloods, loyal bloods even, but never an alliance. And well one lie simply ruins your claims...
Does it? I think he has a point.. even if samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista were not alliance the others were right?
Anonymous (13:13:22 - 13-12)
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Johnx at 13:03:14 on 13/12:
Anonymous at 12:56:52 on 13/12:
lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Easy now bud, I dont know about all the things you are saying, but let me point one thing out, your so-called ''samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance'' never existed. They were bloods, loyal bloods even, but never an alliance. And well one lie simply ruins your claims...

does that even matter they arent really one of the influential fams/alliances. Its about people saying its a bad thing and what do we get? same shit all over again.
Johnx Denmark (13:03:14 - 13-12)
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Anonymous at 12:56:52 on 13/12:
lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Easy now bud, I dont know about all the things you are saying, but let me point one thing out, your so-called ''samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance'' never existed. They were bloods, loyal bloods even, but never an alliance. And well one lie simply ruins your claims...
Anonymous (12:56:52 - 13-12)
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lol

First this:

'This will leave me with some last words, said by almost each top!
Nowadays families merge together in massive alliance with an ever bigger list of bloods. There are almost no fair wars fought and families keep pact-ing instead of showing who is ruling the game. '

Followed by:

Thanks to the following tops:
Reflexive (Pentagram) huge alliance
Wntd (Oblivions) huge alliance
Mrky (Sindikat), samagono/sindikat/memento/conquista alliance
Janey (Homeless) was part of huge oblivions alliance
Pado (Trafficante) was part of trafficante/vicaria/catania alliance
Sider`zZz (Gravano) pacted with conflict/righelli/vinci and it gets worse when go further back
Drimacus (Messina) part of oblivions

And almost each of them says pacting is bad.....right. Only thing is missing is them saying they wont do it again :')
Giddiness Bulgaria (12:05:19 - 13-12)
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From what i see soon version will be closed in like 2 max 3 wars.. reason is if u can't beat them.. join them :) . this version from what i heard there are already building up alliances which means turks will stick to each other again which from my point of view the version is closed even before the reset was announced.. sure we dunno who will win yet but let me say their name will be gaypact or pussypact or kankapact or just pact. gg hypocrates o/
Amenta Australia (11:55:06 - 13-12)
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Its nothing new the pacting and alliances. Just with the smaller playerbase its oh-so-obvious and has a hug impact on the game.

I dont think there was a single family that wasnt in a pact of some sort last version. Its easy to say "why dont we just blood different fams instead" but the trust required for a working bloodship just isnt there after so many versions of same sides shooting each other. I doubt Blacksea would trust Vincitori if we were to come back, and by the same token I doubt Gravano would trust Purgatory. Its not something tied to specific families, its a version-wide thing so families i picked out here dont take it personal.

Perhaps the word blood has lost its meaning now with so many families being sold last vers (more than normal I would think?) and ppl realise you have to look out for your own arse first n foremost, so new ties never seem to get a proper chance, or there are too many strings attached to other sides they are impossible.

Either way, I hope that Omerta doesnt get locked down into a continuing pattern vers after vers of the same wars, and we do get new families, new relationships, new alliances etc. If all the tops interviewed here said they want the winner to be someone who doesnt play the way of the last few versions - then make it happen. You have influence in your family. You've talked the talk now walk the walk.

Last thing, nicely written Smurf - gj
Anonymous (22:48:37 - 12-12)
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"maybe we should appoint the next versions winner as the family who doesn’t play the game that way."

THIS
FlowzZ Albania (22:47:32 - 12-12)
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[awesomeMeme]Year 2012 , we still dont realize its the same conversation [/awesomeMeme]