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General Comments & Major Rumors
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17:28:15 - 08-07
Anonymous at 16:53:52 on 08/07:
[18:52:11] <%NoobSurv> [Economy] Amount of bullets: -303,028,990 to 0
[18:52:11] <%NoobSurv> [Economy] Money total: -$51,739,545,917 to $0
[18:52:11] <%NoobSurv> [Economy] Money in pocket: -$7,914,936,029 to $0
[18:52:12] <%NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: -$42,748,452,758 to $0
[18:52:12] <%NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on familybanks total: -$1,076,157,130 to $0

nice
Somehow a bug. The data isn't really inserted like that, so I don't know what he was thinking.

I'm downloading the error file now but it's gonna take 2 hours to finish :')
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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20:40:30 - 06-07
Well at least they let something know.

They could also just decide not to post that message and just not let us know anything till they would really come out with a statement.
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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18:50:11 - 06-07
Anonymous at 18:44:51 on 06/07:
@Rix
of course it's didn't work with your code, but if in your curl method, you add the user agent (see CURLOPT_USERAGENT option), you'll see the good result ;)

enjoy o/
User agents aren't a must at all, and almost any site will work perfectly fine if you don't send them. However, I added a few different user agents headers at my socket and they have given me some more success, but still not enough to restart the logger again.
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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16:59:34 - 06-07
Wildhorse at 16:10:50 on 06/07:
Yeah someone with brains :D , they can indeed turn me into a chicken when it takes me longer then 30 minutes to make a (working!) bot for these stats :) .

have fun


Testcase I just made.
Source

Be my guest.
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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16:09:20 - 06-07
Wildhorse at 15:55:20 on 06/07:
It is still possible to use api and view the xml pages for use in bots :
http://barafranca.nl/BeO/webroot/index.php ?module=API , this was never changed and i still dont see any problem in using this pages , also i dont mind you publishing the help channel logs since i just simply told the truth and thats all .

greets ,

Wildhorse

ps had to use space in the link because your fine program is not capable to proces a word that long as it says :)

The link does work from browserview, indeed, that's what we already said to you. But when you try to access it through a coding language you get blocked.

Besides that, thank you for taking the time to post on our site. Not many crew members do that.
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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15:43:11 - 06-07
PannaJunk at 15:30:03 on 06/07:
Rix at 15:13:11 on 06/07:
PannaJunk at 14:48:06 on 06/07:
Who cares about the prob with loggerbots ? a bot made by a site of allways complaining ppl. Stop finding reasons to complain on omerta its getting pathetic....
Do you know how much time it takes to build a logger bot?

Thats your choice of picking a hobby...
Then aren't I allowed to ask questions why my hobby suddenly is abborted by no fault of my own, and they even blame me for it and do not want to tell me what I did wrong?
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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15:13:11 - 06-07
PannaJunk at 14:48:06 on 06/07:
Who cares about the prob with loggerbots ? a bot made by a site of allways complaining ppl. Stop finding reasons to complain on omerta its getting pathetic....
Do you know how much time it takes to build a logger bot?
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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14:37:49 - 06-07
We are not saying anywhere this was is a personal attack or whatever on us.
06-07 Admins <-> Loggerbots
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14:29:54 - 06-07
Anonymous at 14:25:51 on 06/07:
perhaps there's another reasonable explanation why it's no longer possible to access pages without logging in ? first thing that jumps to my mind would be the recent attack where one person could just remove money without restriction...
So before jumping to conclusion on why beyond/edo/etc got affected... check why else they could've done it... if they did change those links to avoid getting hacked/intruded then I can only cheer their action on tbh

figure it's better placed here (a)
I agree with you, and I also think this could be the reason. But then they should have told us "Oh ye indeed at that time we changed this and this" and not "Everything should work. It's not possible it doesn't work. It's your fault. Fix your bots."
General Comments & Major Rumors
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12:32:03 - 06-07
Only logger that still can connect with the loggerpage is Trabot.

How convenient.
General Comments & Major Rumors
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12:24:41 - 06-07
Logger is down. All remote connections to the loggerpage specifically build for bots are blocked.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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10:32:28 - 06-07
Cerberiaan at 07:45:25 on 06/07:
Well good they made a newsitem about this.
Sad to see i just pointed 30 min earlier to help crew that people who dont know about OBN or trabot dont know whats happening around, cause latest news object and update object dont give any info.

lets hope they handle this with some caring about the players. but speed of info and discussing this problem aint that promissing. fingers crossed ;)
TraBot has not reported any news around this subject, as far as I know.

Anyway I totally agree with your point. Brando promised they would make a public statement (as in, new news thingy ingame) about what happened and what was going to happen, but still we are clueless.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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18:24:35 - 05-07
Deston at 17:43:40 on 05/07:
friedel at 17:13:28 on 05/07:
Deston at 16:36:08 on 05/07:
friedel at 16:30:39 on 05/07:
in my fam alone there were over 10 accounts,
really theres 2billion gone , you think this comes out of 10 accounts?
Do you really REALLY believe this comes out of 500 accounts? Don't be ridiculous. It's the tards stupid enough to lose 135 mil and then put 120 mil more in their pockets. equate to the losses you get from a rollback.

in my fam more then 10 people lost a small amount of money,
however all combined this is also 50m + we are a small fam and this is shitty for us, while some fams arent touched.
for the casino owners, how could they know? maybe they werent on irc 24/7,
and there was nowhere a statement or newspost by admins
Yes, it is shitty for your fam I wholeheartedly agree. But it is also a very small amount lot for every person. You can regain this money in a day, or just sell 3k bullets. What Rix is saying how the economy is off balanced by this is preposterous in a situation like this.

Rix, what you're saying is that if 10 people lost 5 million each and that family gets involved in two weeks, that family will get killed because of this 50 million? Nonsense, 50 mil is peanuts. You can buy one 60k shot for that and fams don't stand or fall on 60k.

Friedel, for the casino owners. You do pay attention to money and your casino. When you lose your casino and all your cash has disappeared then something is the fuck up. You don't need to be on irc or read a news update to have a fucking brain and realise 'Hmm, maybe something is wrong... Lets go on irc and try to see if something is the matter'. Instead of simply reclaiming your object and putting 100 mil in the pocket again. At least in this case I must support MaFia cause he repeatedly went to #help and got screwed over badly. His family was put at a severe disadvantage, no denying that. But you must find a different solution for that. Rollback is not an option.

What if you won the lottery, what if you won the slots jackpot? What if you gambled and won 50 mil? And more importantly, what if you had a casino and lost 50 mil to honest gamblers instead of this bug? You go to help and whine that you lost all your money, even though the bug had nothing to do with it. That's what happens. Rollbacks are a redundant idea, after 4 days too much money has been won or earned by people to pull bullshit like that.
For small families 50milion isn't peanuts.

And yes, I agree that after four days a rollback will sting. And every day that is added it will sting more. That's why I already said last Sunday that they had to close the game, and after almost two days they still haven't done that. And that's why the admins need to find a solution as soon as possible. They said we would get an answer this afternoon but I guess they have, once again, no clue.

Anyhow, what do you suggest as a solution then?
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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17:09:14 - 05-07
Revolucion at 16:51:56 on 05/07:
I don't know if its possible to check the accounts, but if so let everybody that lost money claim it back at the admins. Admins check every account one by one. Any person that made a false claim gets an akill.
They cannot, in any way. There are no logs at all, and, in contrary to what most think here, profit logs from objects cannot be used either for the object owners who lost (also, Trace only saves last two days, so it would be already too late for that. We have them, but still there is now way to use them for such things.).

Therefore a rollback is, as far as I know, the only way to bring balance back to the game. Combined with a voucher like Moesasji said to compensate a bit for the last rank time is the best solution.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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16:34:43 - 05-07
Deston at 16:32:15 on 05/07:
ishma at 16:10:24 on 05/07:
Anonymous at 15:58:35 on 05/07:
let me tell you, the only solution is a rollback. there is no way the admins wil give money back. its to hard to track al this lost money down. like it or not. rollback is the only solution.

i dont care, rip omerta

why should they rollback in favour of 10 accounts and in prejudice of hundreds???
It isn't better to give those few accounts the lost money??
Thousands*

To those whiners about rollback being the only option. Don't be conceited.

4% of the money disappeared. If you want to make a favorable estimate then for every 10 people that lost money, there will be 240 that lose from a rollback. But let's be a little more honest here. There were at most 20 accounts with 200 million or more. If I had that kind of money I would not keep all of it in my pocket regardless, but still. Clearly some people did. Just because 4% of money disappeared does not mean 4% of users lost money. In fact most of that 4% belongs to a very small group of people. 1% of players in control of 4% of money? Maybe .1% (1/1000)... Let's go in the middle of that, if 1 out of 200 people lost money, then if you rollback for 10 people you hurt 1990 others. If you rollback for 50 people (and I seriously doubt more than a few dozen actually lost a substantial amount of money), you will hurt ten thousand others.
4% is just a too large bite out of the ingame economy, in both the short and the long term that will give a serious disadvantage to the families which lost.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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16:32:23 - 05-07
I would say at least hundred accounts.

2,000,000,000 gone and probably more.
Some with 50 or even up to 200 per person, but on average I would say 10-20mil lost per person.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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01:39:34 - 05-07
Update:
With a sudden change of heart, Anonymousss has decided to report the exploit he used to Brando.
For the ones who do not want to scroll through the long article.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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01:27:32 - 05-07
Anonymous at 01:11:20 on 05/07:
[03:05:25] <%NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: +$378,926,132 to $41,241,144,624

:')
<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money in pocket: +$324,758,605 to $6,573,818,233
<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: -$310,743,587 to $40,862,218,492

<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money in pocket: -$401,345,380 to $6,172,472,853
<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: +$378,926,132 to $41,241,144,624

<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money in pocket: +$66,632,464 to $6,239,105,317
<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: -$62,962,206 to $41,178,182,418

<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money in pocket: -$83,806,221 to $6,155,299,096
<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: +$81,835,154 to $41,260,017,572

<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money on bank: +$32,571,629 to $41,292,589,201
<NoobSurv> [Economy] Money in pocket: -$31,950,985 to $6,123,348,111

Seems to me it's just someone shifting back and forth a bit, doesn't seem very interesting.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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01:11:19 - 05-07
I added Brando's log at the end of the article, at the updates section.
04-07 Omerta hacked!
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00:48:42 - 05-07
It is really weird even to g-line Sbanks. Thanks to him, the hack got revealed (well actually mainly thanks to the hacker who was willing to talk of course) and Sbanks attempted to talk with Gekkewous (.nl crew) and Misshysteria to tell about this.