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07-08 Shadows ↔ Carneglia
Author: Rix
Last updated: 4616d 18h 50m 44s ago by sbanks
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Views: 38,820
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Version: 3.2
Involved families: Carneglia, Infragilis, Presidential, Shadows, Trotters, Venture
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Shadows started shooting at Carneglia. Which looked as a suicide mission from the start.

Shadows who only had 13 brugliones vs Carneglia a family with over more then 50 brugliones.

Carneglia who is known as a family with 1 of the longest bloodlist ingame. A few of those bloods helped them today when they were under attack.

Presidential, Venture, Infragilis and Trotters jumped in and took down Shadows rather fast.
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Jewelized (Shadows): Shadow-Assassins is going for carneglia, we are alone, and try do do our best. I hope to make some action.

/q sbanks
statistics
War started on: 19:22:02 07-08-2011 War ended on: 21:00:02 07-08-2011
Bullet difference: -2,711,523 War duration: 1h 38m
Money difference: -$192,219,896 Players died: 28




deaths
Dead Families:
[Shadows] Family down on 20:39 07-08
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Carneglia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Infragilis | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Shadows | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 12 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 222
Venture | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 34
Total | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 16 | cd: 1 | gf: 2 | points: 308
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Mickay United States (00:22:50 - 08-08)
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manager at 22:55:36 on 07/08:
In my oppinion it's never bad to help our your bloods when you want to, eventho they might not really be in need of it. But if you're bored and wanna have fun, there's 136 families alive, you might wanna shoot some of these also sometime.

Well, I'd love to embark on a quest to purge a host of the lesser fams in the game, and I'm sure it would be quite fun and entail minimal losses. The problem for the top 10 fams, if one of us takes it upon ourselves to eliminate the bottom 10-15 families, other families in the top 10 will attack us. As such, we must save our bullets for the big boys. However, I strongly encourage other bottom 80 fams to take it upon themselves to thin their ranks. Its ridiculous.

I would also like to point out for the sake of pointing it out that if any of the top 20 fams turned to purging the lower 20 fams, the amount of shit they would get from everyone for being 'pussies attacking helpless families' would be insurmountable. not that others opinions of our actions should define our decisions, but just pointing out the hypocrisy inherent in forums like this.
manager Netherlands (22:55:36 - 07-08)
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In my oppinion it's never bad to help our your bloods when you want to, eventho they might not really be in need of it. But if you're bored and wanna have fun, there's 136 families alive, you might wanna shoot some of these also sometime.
Anonymous (22:51:53 - 07-08)
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little bit sad carneglia couldn't fix this them self........

but thank god you have a 1000 bloods to save your ass ;)

Sad fam
Anonymous (22:08:45 - 07-08)
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pointless...
Anonymous (22:03:42 - 07-08)
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Respect to Shadows \o

to bad you couldn't do more damage
ReBorN United States (21:56:51 - 07-08)
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Mickay at 21:51:16 on 07/08:
ReBorN at 21:45:31 on 07/08:
Mickay at 21:34:19 on 07/08:
ReBorN at 21:13:13 on 07/08:
Anonymous at 21:06:14 on 07/08:
well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
Of course its no big deal. Everyone gets to have a little fun. But let me break this down for you just a little bit:

Why are there no more wars in this game? Partly because of changes in the game by the admins that make it harder to shoot but also partly because of all the gangbanging.

Of course Shadows knew they would die. Only a insane person would think they would survive that. But what happens to the next family that decides to try something similar? They think twice cause they know after the first wave they will be gangbanged by a force 5 times their size.

In the old days families fought their problems out 1 on 1. If one family was bigger then the other ... well, thats just shitty luck for them. If families fought like they years ago then there would be 10 times as many wars as there are these days.

Just some food for thought.

But in any event ... very good and effective counter attack. With the exception of Venture losing their Godfather. ;)

If we want more wars in this game then we need to increase the incentive to fight. To do so admins need to adjust the way poker is incorporated into this game or remove it completely to increase the value of objects. BTW Reborn you can't compare anything post-2.4 to 'old days.' The entire dynamic of the game has changed. And also dont talk about honor/balls... especially in an online game like this it just sounds ridiculous. I'm guessing families jumped in cuz they wanted to fight, not because carneglia was desperately looking for help.

Im sure the the other families jumped in due to a combination of both.

Why cant you have balls or honor simply because this is an online game? If you lack balls and honor in an environment like this where it is easier to display both then what would that say about you in the real life? Here, you sacrifice nothing to be a more honorable person.

Of course the admins have changed the game in such a way that makes it difficult to fight wars like the "old days". However, another very large component to the lack of wars is the player base and how they approach the game. Gangbanging has made many people scared to fight 1 on 1. Just like 2.4 is a big difference from 2.0, 3.whatever-this-is is a big difference from 2.4. In 2.4 you couldnt shoot 1 on 1 or you would die. You had to preshoot, there was no alternative. Now it isnt like that anymore. You can kill an online target 1 on 1, offliners are a little more difficult of course. My point being, admins do try to bring the game more inline with how the players want it ... more wars. But what good does it do for the admins to change the game when the player base wont change the style in which they play that game?

I agree that the player base has become corrupted but there is no real point in languishing in the past. I despise the gangbanging as much as the next guy but as you said, its the way the game has evolved. Families are so interconnected with bloods, that unless you attack with many, you face heavy retaliation from the targets bloods. As such the attacking force must assert itself using overwhelming force to discourage reprisal. We may not like gangbanging, but its the way the game has evolved... we just gotta deal with it.
In 100 years the world may evolve into cannibalism, that doesnt mean Ill go along with it simply because its the thing of the times. Its still against human nature :p

I understand your point. But if all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you? Stick up for the way the game should be played instead of rolling over and just accepting what it has become. If they game continues along this path then it will die. Why do you think so many old time, great, players have decided to retire for good? Because the game is no longer played the way it should be played. And although that may be my opinion, I do believe its an opinion shared by a vast majority of players in this game.
Mickay United States (21:51:16 - 07-08)
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ReBorN at 21:45:31 on 07/08:
Mickay at 21:34:19 on 07/08:
ReBorN at 21:13:13 on 07/08:
Anonymous at 21:06:14 on 07/08:
well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
Of course its no big deal. Everyone gets to have a little fun. But let me break this down for you just a little bit:

Why are there no more wars in this game? Partly because of changes in the game by the admins that make it harder to shoot but also partly because of all the gangbanging.

Of course Shadows knew they would die. Only a insane person would think they would survive that. But what happens to the next family that decides to try something similar? They think twice cause they know after the first wave they will be gangbanged by a force 5 times their size.

In the old days families fought their problems out 1 on 1. If one family was bigger then the other ... well, thats just shitty luck for them. If families fought like they years ago then there would be 10 times as many wars as there are these days.

Just some food for thought.

But in any event ... very good and effective counter attack. With the exception of Venture losing their Godfather. ;)

If we want more wars in this game then we need to increase the incentive to fight. To do so admins need to adjust the way poker is incorporated into this game or remove it completely to increase the value of objects. BTW Reborn you can't compare anything post-2.4 to 'old days.' The entire dynamic of the game has changed. And also dont talk about honor/balls... especially in an online game like this it just sounds ridiculous. I'm guessing families jumped in cuz they wanted to fight, not because carneglia was desperately looking for help.

Im sure the the other families jumped in due to a combination of both.

Why cant you have balls or honor simply because this is an online game? If you lack balls and honor in an environment like this where it is easier to display both then what would that say about you in the real life? Here, you sacrifice nothing to be a more honorable person.

Of course the admins have changed the game in such a way that makes it difficult to fight wars like the "old days". However, another very large component to the lack of wars is the player base and how they approach the game. Gangbanging has made many people scared to fight 1 on 1. Just like 2.4 is a big difference from 2.0, 3.whatever-this-is is a big difference from 2.4. In 2.4 you couldnt shoot 1 on 1 or you would die. You had to preshoot, there was no alternative. Now it isnt like that anymore. You can kill an online target 1 on 1, offliners are a little more difficult of course. My point being, admins do try to bring the game more inline with how the players want it ... more wars. But what good does it do for the admins to change the game when the player base wont change the style in which they play that game?

I agree that the player base has become corrupted but there is no real point in languishing in the past. I despise the gangbanging as much as the next guy but as you said, its the way the game has evolved. Families are so interconnected with bloods, that unless you attack with many, you face heavy retaliation from the targets bloods. As such the attacking force must assert itself using overwhelming force to discourage reprisal. We may not like gangbanging, but its the way the game has evolved... we just gotta deal with it.
ReBorN United States (21:45:31 - 07-08)
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Mickay at 21:34:19 on 07/08:
ReBorN at 21:13:13 on 07/08:
Anonymous at 21:06:14 on 07/08:
well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
Of course its no big deal. Everyone gets to have a little fun. But let me break this down for you just a little bit:

Why are there no more wars in this game? Partly because of changes in the game by the admins that make it harder to shoot but also partly because of all the gangbanging.

Of course Shadows knew they would die. Only a insane person would think they would survive that. But what happens to the next family that decides to try something similar? They think twice cause they know after the first wave they will be gangbanged by a force 5 times their size.

In the old days families fought their problems out 1 on 1. If one family was bigger then the other ... well, thats just shitty luck for them. If families fought like they years ago then there would be 10 times as many wars as there are these days.

Just some food for thought.

But in any event ... very good and effective counter attack. With the exception of Venture losing their Godfather. ;)

If we want more wars in this game then we need to increase the incentive to fight. To do so admins need to adjust the way poker is incorporated into this game or remove it completely to increase the value of objects. BTW Reborn you can't compare anything post-2.4 to 'old days.' The entire dynamic of the game has changed. And also dont talk about honor/balls... especially in an online game like this it just sounds ridiculous. I'm guessing families jumped in cuz they wanted to fight, not because carneglia was desperately looking for help.

Im sure the the other families jumped in due to a combination of both.

Why cant you have balls or honor simply because this is an online game? If you lack balls and honor in an environment like this where it is easier to display both then what would that say about you in the real life? Here, you sacrifice nothing to be a more honorable person.

Of course the admins have changed the game in such a way that makes it difficult to fight wars like the "old days". However, another very large component to the lack of wars is the player base and how they approach the game. Gangbanging has made many people scared to fight 1 on 1. Just like 2.4 is a big difference from 2.0, 3.whatever-this-is is a big difference from 2.4. In 2.4 you couldnt shoot 1 on 1 or you would die. You had to preshoot, there was no alternative. Now it isnt like that anymore. You can kill an online target 1 on 1, offliners are a little more difficult of course. My point being, admins do try to bring the game more inline with how the players want it ... more wars. But what good does it do for the admins to change the game when the player base wont change the style in which they play that game?
Bertrando (21:39:05 - 07-08)
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Yeah, was fun running shadow fam. Its over, no hard fellings to anyone, anyway :D

Infragrilis, Trotters, presidential and Venture on us :)

Bertra eats a happy meal. :P
sbanks Guatemala (21:38:00 - 07-08)
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ReBorN at 21:13:13 on 07/08:
Anonymous at 21:06:14 on 07/08:
well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
Of course its no big deal. Everyone gets to have a little fun. But let me break this down for you just a little bit:

Why are there no more wars in this game? Partly because of changes in the game by the admins that make it harder to shoot but also partly because of all the gangbanging.

Of course Shadows knew they would die. Only a insane person would think they would survive that. But what happens to the next family that decides to try something similar? They think twice cause they know after the first wave they will be gangbanged by a force 5 times their size.

In the old days families fought their problems out 1 on 1. If one family was bigger then the other ... well, thats just shitty luck for them. If families fought like they years ago then there would be 10 times as many wars as there are these days.

Just some food for thought.

But in any event ... very good and effective counter attack. With the exception of Venture losing their Godfather. ;)

+1

ReBorN is always right, just get used to it! and when he's wrong, he is still right.

i have the same opinion though, you got a big family, and go ask your bloods to help.. i mean.. its sad, people have mobile phones right..?

back in the days, you just text'd eachother to come online and to shoot somebody, guess this also changed? or poor management from top.. who knows.

and jumped in for the fun..? how about you start shooting yourself? but seems no1 got the balls or the IQ for that.

Anonymous (21:35:23 - 07-08)
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Deston killed Jewelized..

Also presidential in..
Mickay United States (21:34:19 - 07-08)
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ReBorN at 21:13:13 on 07/08:
Anonymous at 21:06:14 on 07/08:
well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
Of course its no big deal. Everyone gets to have a little fun. But let me break this down for you just a little bit:

Why are there no more wars in this game? Partly because of changes in the game by the admins that make it harder to shoot but also partly because of all the gangbanging.

Of course Shadows knew they would die. Only a insane person would think they would survive that. But what happens to the next family that decides to try something similar? They think twice cause they know after the first wave they will be gangbanged by a force 5 times their size.

In the old days families fought their problems out 1 on 1. If one family was bigger then the other ... well, thats just shitty luck for them. If families fought like they years ago then there would be 10 times as many wars as there are these days.

Just some food for thought.

But in any event ... very good and effective counter attack. With the exception of Venture losing their Godfather. ;)

If we want more wars in this game then we need to increase the incentive to fight. To do so admins need to adjust the way poker is incorporated into this game or remove it completely to increase the value of objects. BTW Reborn you can't compare anything post-2.4 to 'old days.' The entire dynamic of the game has changed. And also dont talk about honor/balls... especially in an online game like this it just sounds ridiculous. I'm guessing families jumped in cuz they wanted to fight, not because carneglia was desperately looking for help.
Coke (21:18:48 - 07-08)
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Jewelized killed Venture GF ;)
Anonymous (21:16:37 - 07-08)
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[21:43] <Beefy> Jewelized you are about to be countered
[21:44] <Beefy> dont leave and you die

ReBorN United States (21:13:13 - 07-08)
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Anonymous at 21:06:14 on 07/08:
well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
Of course its no big deal. Everyone gets to have a little fun. But let me break this down for you just a little bit:

Why are there no more wars in this game? Partly because of changes in the game by the admins that make it harder to shoot but also partly because of all the gangbanging.

Of course Shadows knew they would die. Only a insane person would think they would survive that. But what happens to the next family that decides to try something similar? They think twice cause they know after the first wave they will be gangbanged by a force 5 times their size.

In the old days families fought their problems out 1 on 1. If one family was bigger then the other ... well, thats just shitty luck for them. If families fought like they years ago then there would be 10 times as many wars as there are these days.

Just some food for thought.

But in any event ... very good and effective counter attack. With the exception of Venture losing their Godfather. ;)
Anonymous (21:06:14 - 07-08)
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well reborn...we jumped in cause we wanted to shoot, not cause they asked us to shoot. we were all bored and this was a bit fun. As Deston said...no big deal
mmm Netherlands (21:05:27 - 07-08)
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Lmfao? at 20:36:47 on 07/08:
mmm at 20:33:07 on 07/08:
This is nuts, that many fams vs poor Shadows. Lame version..
Are you for real? Moron.ur right we should let them live for attacking our blood?
nuts hè calls it, poor shadows ur right about that tho...

you call it bloods helping
I call it lack of running a family from Carneglia (like Reborn sayd, compare this situation to the old days)
I also call it boredom from their bloods, they just wanted to do poof poof.

and Moron? How old are u actually? Grow up.
ReBorN United States (20:56:17 - 07-08)
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Cmon Reborn at 20:53:44 on 07/08:
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ReBorN at 20:44:13 on 07/08:
Lmfao? at 20:36:47 on 07/08:
mmm at 20:33:07 on 07/08:
This is nuts, that many fams vs poor Shadows. Lame version..
Are you for real? Moron.ur right we should let them live for attacking our blood?
nuts hè calls it, poor shadows ur right about that tho...
Are you for real? Moron. I think the #4 family who happens to be at least 5 times the size of the #58 family attacking them would be able to take care of business themselves instead of immediately calling in help from at least 2 other families.

WTF is going on around here? Families to pussy these days to handle their own fights? You get into a fight in the school yard with someone you are 5 times the size of, your going to cry for 2 of your other friends to come over and help you cause you dont want to get punched once or twice?! Grow up ffs.

reborn, u played long enough too know one or maybe two things. First of all, carneglia, didnt have that many online. They got three strong brugs online, then 1 or 2 less strong.
In war as u may know, its not the amount of brugs the fam has, but the amount online too counter attack. If all 50 was online, i doubt they even bother.
Seriously Reborn im loosing more and more respect which i had for you.
WTf is going around? Its 3.2 you oldie :(
Lol, just because the version # increases doesnt me the honor in which you conduct your family needs to decrease ;)

And have no fear Mr. Cmon Reborn, if all else fails rest assured that you can still respect me for posting under my real name. ;)
Cmon Reborn (20:53:44 - 07-08)
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-.- at 20:48:11 on 07/08:
ReBorN at 20:44:13 on 07/08:
Lmfao? at 20:36:47 on 07/08:
mmm at 20:33:07 on 07/08:
This is nuts, that many fams vs poor Shadows. Lame version..
Are you for real? Moron.ur right we should let them live for attacking our blood?
nuts hè calls it, poor shadows ur right about that tho...
Are you for real? Moron. I think the #4 family who happens to be at least 5 times the size of the #58 family attacking them would be able to take care of business themselves instead of immediately calling in help from at least 2 other families.

WTF is going on around here? Families to pussy these days to handle their own fights? You get into a fight in the school yard with someone you are 5 times the size of, your going to cry for 2 of your other friends to come over and help you cause you dont want to get punched once or twice?! Grow up ffs.

reborn, u played long enough too know one or maybe two things. First of all, carneglia, didnt have that many online. They got three strong brugs online, then 1 or 2 less strong.
In war as u may know, its not the amount of brugs the fam has, but the amount online too counter attack. If all 50 was online, i doubt they even bother.
Seriously Reborn im loosing more and more respect which i had for you.
WTf is going around? Its 3.2 you oldie :(
ReBorN United States (20:50:26 - 07-08)
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-.- at 20:48:11 on 07/08:
ReBorN at 20:44:13 on 07/08:
Lmfao? at 20:36:47 on 07/08:
mmm at 20:33:07 on 07/08:
This is nuts, that many fams vs poor Shadows. Lame version..
Are you for real? Moron.ur right we should let them live for attacking our blood?
nuts hè calls it, poor shadows ur right about that tho...
Are you for real? Moron. I think the #4 family who happens to be at least 5 times the size of the #58 family attacking them would be able to take care of business themselves instead of immediately calling in help from at least 2 other families.

WTF is going on around here? Families to pussy these days to handle their own fights? You get into a fight in the school yard with someone you are 5 times the size of, your going to cry for 2 of your other friends to come over and help you cause you dont want to get punched once or twice?! Grow up ffs.

reborn, u played long enough too know one or maybe two things. First of all, carneglia, didnt have that many online. They got three strong brugs online, then 1 or 2 less strong.
In war as u may know, its not the amount of brugs the fam has, but the amount online too counter attack. If all 50 was online, i doubt they even bother.
In the old days we would call our own people to come online and shoot some bitches before we ask bloods to fight our battle for us ;)